ACEH is not INDONESIA/a Followup to Bert's message on the NeoCons

[Guest guest]

Hi Bert, Therese and Group

 

PART ONE

 

The Aceh " state " generically considered has been in existence since

the early 16th century. For much of its 474 years this state was

monarchical. Following on its transition to democracy in he modern

era, the democratic state of Aceh's first act of international

cooperation was its commitment to join the Federal Republic of

Indonesia on December 27, 1949. As far as Aceh was concerned, this

was the sovereign act of its state joining a federal government in

concert with the state of Indonesia which had been established by the

Proclamation of August 17, 1945. From the point of view of Aceh's

elite, this federal constitutional arrangement was quite like the

USA's Articles of Confederation, a " treaty " consented to by 13

sovereign states.

 

After 1950 Indonesia changed the character of its constitution from

federal to unitary. The Aceh leadership viewed this change with

suspicion. On September 20, 1953 the Governor of Aceh, David

Beureueh, issued Aceh's Declaration of Independence from the Unitary

Republic of Indonesia. A nine year war of Independence commenced; the

revolution was put down by Sukarno's armed forces. However the Aceh

elites never unanimously surrendered their nation's sovereignty. On

December 4, 1976 Beureueh's Declaration was " re-issued " by the

militant dissident group led by Tengku de Tiro. The passive

resistance of the period 1962-1976 morphed to active resistance for a

second time in post-colonial history, and has continued to the

present day.

 

I suspect that both dates: September 20, 1953 and December 4, 1976

should have to be " tested " in the empirical manner by

determining correlations with major historic events ..... Such as the

December 26th, 2004 TSUNAMI.

 

So I will further look into the history in question in order to

establish the times of day and locations of these two historic dates

in Aceh's history. If any member has a ready reference for these

determinations, please contribute.

 

 

>PART TWO

 

As the tragic and catastrophic story of the South Asia Tsunami of

>December 26, 2004 continues to unfold, I wish to raise FOUR points

of

> clarification, which ought to be propaedeutic to any future

relevant

> horoscopic analysis of the event in question:

>

> FIRST:

>

> There are doubters among the astrologers who question whether or not the

August 17, 1945 horoscope for Indonesia is the true birthchart: Among the

doubters are those who

> raise the matter of Indonesia's so-called birth on December 27,

1949.

> Even Nicholas Campion maintains that the 1949 event is the basis of

> THE birthchart. In brief, Campion is wrong on this score. The

> 1945 horoscope is the " Nation-State " birth chart; the 1949

horoscope

> is the " National Government " birth chart. Grasping the difference

is

> crucial to properly assessing the character and destiny of a nation .

>

> SECOND:

>

> The geographic extent of the Indonesian nation-state is NOT co-

> terminous with the geographic extent of the Indonesian national

> government: The geography of the Indonesian national government

> encompasses the " 27 " provinces of the so-called nation, which is

the

> expanse of Indonesia as commonly understood and reported in the

> press; Whereas in contra-distinction, the geography of the Indonesian

nation-

> state comprises " 25 " provinces, which excludes 2 " provinces " : Aceh

> and West Papua (New Guinea). Aceh has been its own nation-state again after

the departure of the Dutch and their colonial regime. A short lived

participation in the Federal Republic of Indonesia was terminated with their

Declarations of Independence on September 20, 1953 and again on

> December 4, 1976. The revolution to expel the Indonesian invaders

> continues to the present day. The Indonesian government is no more welcome in

Aceh

than

> George III's armies were welcome in the United States between July

> 2nd, 1776 and September 3, 1783. Furthermore, the nationhood of

Aceh,

> preceding the existence of the Aceh state (necessarily so,

logically

> and historically), has been in existence since the year 1530.

>

> THIRD:

>

> Chris K has rightly pointed out that the impact of the Tsunami is evident on

the 1945

> Indonesia chart. However, the impact relates to the devastation in

> north Sumatra, in areas OTHER THAN Aceh. " Other than Aceh " is the

> pivotal consideration here, for reasons logically entailed in the

> matters mentioned above.

>

> FOURTH:

>

> The 1949 Indonesia chart doesn't show the catastrophic impact of

the

> Tsunami. (And, of course, it shouldn't for one who grasps the

> metaphysical difference of STATE and GOVERNMENT.) Instead, very

much

> to the contrary, the Tsunami's devastation of Aceh has presented a

> golden political opportunity for the national government of

Indonesia

> to complete its task of the violent expropriation and domination of

> the Aceh people. The likelihood of complete annexation is now

> inevitable. The Tsunami event of December 26 represents, for the

> government of Indonesia, an event of beneficence not maleficence.

>

> >

> John

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

Even before looking at Campion's Indonesia 12/27/49, I expected the

Aceh people to carry that chart's morphic resonance in their

earthquake; and so they do. EQ Mercury-Venus squat on its

7th cusp...EQ Saturn-ASC, MC-Nodes occupy its A/M midpoints.

Would that all mundane charts coalesced so easily. I shall use all future

findings of the newer charts you mention as pertinent auxiliaries

 

Dark*Star

_________________________________

 

John T W B wrote:

 

> the democratic state of Aceh's first act of international

> cooperation was its commitment to join the Federal Republic of

> Indonesia on December 27, 1949

>

> I suspect that both dates: September 20, 1953 and December 4, 1976

> should have to be " tested " in the empirical manner by

> determining correlations with major historic events

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Dark*Star

 

In the weeks ahead I hope to find clock times and precise locations for the 1953

amd 1976 Declarations.

 

When I have the info I shall post to the group.

 

John

 

Dark Star <pansophia wrote:

 

Hi,

 

Even before looking at Campion's Indonesia 12/27/49, I expected the

Aceh people to carry that chart's morphic resonance in their

earthquake; and so they do. EQ Mercury-Venus squat on its

7th cusp...EQ Saturn-ASC, MC-Nodes occupy its A/M midpoints.

Would that all mundane charts coalesced so easily. I shall use all future

findings of the newer charts you mention as pertinent auxiliaries

 

Dark*Star

_________________________________

 

John T W B wrote:

 

> the democratic state of Aceh's first act of international

> cooperation was its commitment to join the Federal Republic of

> Indonesia on December 27, 1949

>

> I suspect that both dates: September 20, 1953 and December 4, 1976

> should have to be " tested " in the empirical manner by

> determining correlations with major historic events

>

>

>