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At 12:51 PM 12/26/04 -0800, Steve wrote:

>Here is a good site for this:

>

>http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqinthenews/2004/usslav/

 

Hi Steve,

 

That's the site that puts the quake notices in my mailbox. Only one

problem--the site only keeps an up-to-date list of quakes for one week.

>...

>The Mars ingress into Scorpio (Fagan) for the exact location shows

>Saturn at degree and minute on the 7th cusp, with the Nodes within a

>degree of the MC/IC.

 

Can you please post the exact time of the Mars ingress chart for the

Epicenter?

 

>The Moon's ingress into Capricorn (Fagan) shows the Moon at the degree

>of the MC and Nodes at degree of the Asc/Dsc. Saturn is less than a

>degree off the IC.

 

Likewise, can you please post data for this chart? Or upload this chart and

the Mars ingress chart to the files section? Thanks!

 

>One perspective for this quake is that it was a result of the

>combination tMars/Uranus square, the Nodes/Saturn square and the

>impending Full Moon.

 

The nodes are definitely involved as they seem to always be for traumatic

events involving many people. If you look at aspects to the angles for the

quake, you have Ketu about a degree from the MC with Saturn on the

descendant, that is, squaring the angular nodes.

 

There was an interesting article in a recent NCGR electronic memberletter

that pointed out that the 'true' nodes are no more true than the mean

nodes. The quake chart makes a case for the mean nodes as they are in the

same degree as the Moon and closer to the MC/IC axis than the 'true' nodes.

(I'll try to find the article.)

 

MC 3 Libra 30

Ketu 4 Libra 49 (true node is 6 04)

Moon 4 Gem 22

(Saturn is 1 Cancer 33) (all Krishnamurti)

 

I expect that the Moon's aspect to the nodes pulled in the stress of the

Sun's opposition--almost full Moon, and then there was the quincnux of Mars

to the Moon. So the Moon would be the focal point of stress which

transferred to the angular nodes.

 

Jupiter enters into the picture because it's about five degrees from the

zenith point. Neptune is conjunct Theta Capricorn in the tail of the sea

goat near the ecliptic, and is supposed to have a malefic influence. But we

have a lot to learn because if you put this quake chart into a pile of

charts, it wouldn't look all that bad, at least at first glance--unless you

consider that Jupiter at the top of the chart is totally malefic. I've seen

Jupiter behave very badly in the 10th house--the house of Capricorn. There

has to be water in there somewhere, and that's Jupiter and/or Neptune.

 

In the zodiac the Moon is only minutes from Polaris, which according to

Robson is a star of sickness, trouble and great affliction. I don't know

why the stars of the great bear are said to have a Uranian influence.

Polaris is associated with the sea because it was a guide star for sailors.

 

Then again, it wasn't the quake itself that was so traumatic as the tsunami

waves which followed. We'd need to look at ingress charts for the

individual areas hit by the waves--as you did for Thailand.

 

Therese

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Therese Hamilton wrote:

 

>

> Can you please post the exact time of the Mars ingress chart for the

> Epicenter?

 

Hi Therese,

 

The time for the Mars ingress was: December 18th @ 8:45:33 AM local time

(USZ6-7:00) (3N 17 52) (95E 46 44) (Fagan/Bradley) Asc=1Cap08,

MC=6Lib32, Saturn=1Can08, Ketu(true node)=5Lib40

 

 

>

> >The Moon's ingress into Capricorn (Fagan) shows the Moon at the

> degree

> >of the MC and Nodes at degree of the Asc/Dsc. Saturn is less than a

> >degree off the IC.

>

> Likewise, can you please post data for this chart?

 

Time for the Moon's ingress into Capricorn: December 14th @ 2:52:24 PM

local time. (USZ6-7:00) Fagan/Bradley Asc=5Aries10, MC=0Cap27,

Rahu=5Aris59,

Moon=0Cap00, Saturn=1Can22

 

 

>

> The nodes are definitely involved as they seem to always be for

> traumatic

> events involving many people. If you look at aspects to the angles for

> the

> quake, you have Ketu about a degree from the MC with Saturn on the

> descendant, that is, squaring the angular nodes.

 

Saturn/Nodes in some configuration seems to be present fairly often when

there is a loss of life. The Moon joining this combo can make a deadly

trio.

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

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