Recount Horoscope

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According to the Cobb website, the recount began in Ohio today in Clinton

County at 7:00 a.m. Wilmington is apparently a key city in Clinton County.

(I looked up Clinton County on the web.)

 

The degree of Antares rises in the chart set for Wilmington, which means

that in the zodiac, W's Mars is just at the zenith. Interesting synastry!

Mercury and the partile Sun/Pluto conjunction are in the first house. The

Moon is applying to Jupiter by square aspect. Ascendant lord Mars is

conjunct the part of fortune and Venus above the ascendant. Scorpio is a

tricky ascendant because Mars rules the first and the 6th house of enemies.

 

I'm way too tired and busy to try to interpret this chart. Any comments are

welcome.

 

Therese

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Thanks Therese

 

I pulled it up and my jaw dropped. Look at all those planets in Jyeshta!

 

I guess tht thells the story of a recount: fear of betrayal. Isn't it

interesting how the Sun and Pluto are on Kerry's Sun ASC? Hard to imagine

that Kerry will sit quietly on the sidelines after this. Can't say what

exactly it means, but sure does stimulate curiosity.

 

 

Notice the Moon angular to Jupiter. That's pretty powerful for luck. If we

take the chart of a recount to mean that the 1st house is those who request

it and the 7th those who are being challenged (what do y'all think???) then

the first has a lot of action but the ruler.....MARs...is weak in the 12th

in Libra. That looks like a lot of noise without any success.

 

Still, it is a new Moon, that does give momentum. Merc. Retro. suggests the

recount Mars and Venus are both weak doesn't look like folks will come

together after the recount. Loks like another 4 years of bitterness.

Notice that lord of the 1st and 7th are both weak. No body wins. Neptune

in the 3rd...more scandal Uranus angluar to Venus: concern about a change

of events, but Venus is very weak and URanus too far from the ASC DSC axis

to indicate big change.

 

Look forward to other commentary

 

c

 

Therese Hamilton [eastwest]

Monday, December 13, 2004 4:43 PM

Recount Horoscope

 

 

According to the Cobb website, the recount began in Ohio today in Clinton

County at 7:00 a.m. Wilmington is apparently a key city in Clinton County.

(I looked up Clinton County on the web.)

 

The degree of Antares rises in the chart set for Wilmington, which means

that in the zodiac, W's Mars is just at the zenith. Interesting synastry!

Mercury and the partile Sun/Pluto conjunction are in the first house. The

Moon is applying to Jupiter by square aspect. Ascendant lord Mars is

conjunct the part of fortune and Venus above the ascendant. Scorpio is a

tricky ascendant because Mars rules the first and the 6th house of

enemies.

 

I'm way too tired and busy to try to interpret this chart. Any comments

are

welcome.

 

Therese

 

 

 

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Hi Cynthia......Lots of planet's in Scorpio. Mer rising and retro shows errors

and foul ups. It's already been delayed. Mercury also contra parallel Saturn is

not a good sign either. More delays/ frustrations.Mercury sextile Jup, and Moon

applying to square of Jup would suggest legal challenge. Outcome being lost.

The long term positive outlook for me is the Sun/Pluto conjoining. Key words

for this aspect by Jim Lewis---The Midwife of change....rebel and

malcontent...societyhas a hard time recognizingits own need for intense

revolution and change....intensity and solitude represent the process of change

and evolution that leads to death. In this case death of elections as we know

them. We must all share the blame for this election process and not blame. This

process now will not be appreciated for decades, but it is going to happen.

Total conversion, a new beginning. Until then we must keep fighting the

manipulative, the ruthless and power crazed.

 

Kit Karson

 

cynthianovak <cynthianovak wrote:

Thanks Therese

 

I pulled it up and my jaw dropped. Look at all those planets in Jyeshta!

 

I guess tht thells the story of a recount: fear of betrayal. Isn't it

interesting how the Sun and Pluto are on Kerry's Sun ASC? Hard to imagine

that Kerry will sit quietly on the sidelines after this. Can't say what

exactly it means, but sure does stimulate curiosity.

 

 

Notice the Moon angular to Jupiter. That's pretty powerful for luck. If we

take the chart of a recount to mean that the 1st house is those who request

it and the 7th those who are being challenged (what do y'all think???) then

the first has a lot of action but the ruler.....MARs...is weak in the 12th

in Libra. That looks like a lot of noise without any success.

 

Still, it is a new Moon, that does give momentum. Merc. Retro. suggests the

recount Mars and Venus are both weak doesn't look like folks will come

together after the recount. Loks like another 4 years of bitterness.

Notice that lord of the 1st and 7th are both weak. No body wins. Neptune

in the 3rd...more scandal Uranus angluar to Venus: concern about a change

of events, but Venus is very weak and URanus too far from the ASC DSC axis

to indicate big change.

 

Look forward to other commentary

 

c

 

Therese Hamilton [eastwest]

Monday, December 13, 2004 4:43 PM

Recount Horoscope

 

 

According to the Cobb website, the recount began in Ohio today in Clinton

County at 7:00 a.m. Wilmington is apparently a key city in Clinton County.

(I looked up Clinton County on the web.)

 

The degree of Antares rises in the chart set for Wilmington, which means

that in the zodiac, W's Mars is just at the zenith. Interesting synastry!

Mercury and the partile Sun/Pluto conjunction are in the first house. The

Moon is applying to Jupiter by square aspect. Ascendant lord Mars is

conjunct the part of fortune and Venus above the ascendant. Scorpio is a

tricky ascendant because Mars rules the first and the 6th house of

enemies.

 

I'm way too tired and busy to try to interpret this chart. Any comments

are

welcome.

 

Therese

 

 

 

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At 06:51 PM 12/13/04 -0600, Cynthia wrote:

>

>I pulled it up and my jaw dropped. Look at all those planets in Jyeshta!

 

I can hear the mutterings in the background from western sidereal

astrologers: " What the heck is a Jyeshta?! "

 

Jyeshta is the 18th lunar mansion (nakshatra) in the Indian system. Its

deity is said to be Indra, king of the gods. Jyestha runs from 16 Scorpio

40 to 30 Scorpio; its planetary lord is Mercury. Bright Antares marks the

beginning of this lunar mansion. Jyeshta's deity is said to be Indra, king

of the gods. Interesting that the recount is essentially about the question

of who is rightfully the king.

 

>>I guess that tells the story of a recount: fear of betrayal. [linked to

Jyestha]

 

Fear of betrayal or an actual betrayal? I had forgotten this aspect of

Jyestha.

 

>>Isn't it interesting how the Sun and Pluto are on Kerry's Sun ASC?

Hard to imagine that Kerry will sit quietly on the sidelines after this.

Can't say what exactly it means, but sure does stimulate curiosity.

 

>Notice the Moon angular to Jupiter. That's pretty powerful for luck. If we

>take the chart of a recount to mean that the 1st house is those who request

>it and the 7th those who are being challenged (what do y'all think???) then

>the first has a lot of action but the ruler.....MARs...is weak in the 12th

>in Libra. That looks like a lot of noise without any success.

 

The ascendant lord and the 7th lord are conjoined in a weak position. Venus

(7th lord) has passed Mars in the zodiac, but Mars is higher above the

horizon. Venus and Mars are in mutual reception as well as conjoined. Are

they fighting for position or cooperating?

 

Both Venus and Mars have been transiting the constellation of Libra (not

the sign) which deals with legal affairs. (This transit also legalized gay

marriages in Canada, but also has led to the first gay divorces. Also we

have the legal election hassles in Ukraine and the Scott Peterson story.)

This is the lunar mansion of Vishaka, whose planetary lord is Jupiter, who

rules the courts. It's interesting--neither Venus nor Mars can go anywhere

through dispositorship as they fall into each other, sort of like a figure 8.

 

>Still, it is a new Moon, that does give momentum. Merc. Retro. suggests the

>recount Mars and Venus are both weak doesn't look like folks will come

>together after the recount. Loks like another 4 years of bitterness.

>Notice that lord of the 1st and 7th are both weak. No body wins. Neptune

>in the 3rd...more scandal Uranus angluar to Venus: concern about a change

>of events, but Venus is very weak and URanus too far from the ASC DSC axis

>to indicate big change.

 

Thanks for your comments and interpretation of this chart, Cynthia. Could

you please post the link to Joni's page on the lunar mansions? You or

someone else posted it here a while ago.

 

Thanks,

Therese

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HI Therese

I totally missed the mutual reception of Venus and Mars....hopes it brings

reconciliation.

 

here is Joni's website. Got o Nakshatras on the left.

 

If anyone is interested, I can email you the lengthy text of a handout I

gave during the last American COuncil of Vedic Astrologers conference. It

is a sort of short version of the lunar mansions called Nakshatras. I told

lots of stories of how I've seen them manifest in rather startling reality.

The handout is more of the essence of the naks and things I dug up on the

dieties and how I see the naks manifest over and over in clients' lives.

THere are some very different interpretations of the deities than what Joni

has. Much of hers comes from a very good book on them by Kenneth Johnson

and that book Myths and symbolism by -_____mind went blank but Therese

knows. I never read the latter book and did not see Ken's work until after

my clients started to show me how they work for several years. Mine is not

so steeped in tradition but more experiencial....therefore could be better

or really off. It did get rave reviews at the conference by folks who were

open to a new voice.

 

smiles

c

 

Therese Hamilton [eastwest]

Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:49 PM

RE: Recount Horoscope

 

 

At 06:51 PM 12/13/04 -0600, Cynthia wrote:

>

>I pulled it up and my jaw dropped. Look at all those planets in Jyeshta!

 

I can hear the mutterings in the background from western sidereal

astrologers: " What the heck is a Jyeshta?! "

 

Jyeshta is the 18th lunar mansion (nakshatra) in the Indian system. Its

deity is said to be Indra, king of the gods. Jyestha runs from 16 Scorpio

40 to 30 Scorpio; its planetary lord is Mercury. Bright Antares marks the

beginning of this lunar mansion. Jyeshta's deity is said to be Indra, king

of the gods. Interesting that the recount is essentially about the

question

of who is rightfully the king.

 

>>I guess that tells the story of a recount: fear of betrayal. [linked to

Jyestha]

 

Fear of betrayal or an actual betrayal? I had forgotten this aspect of

Jyestha.

 

>>Isn't it interesting how the Sun and Pluto are on Kerry's Sun ASC?

Hard to imagine that Kerry will sit quietly on the sidelines after this.

Can't say what exactly it means, but sure does stimulate curiosity.

 

>Notice the Moon angular to Jupiter. That's pretty powerful for luck. If

we

>take the chart of a recount to mean that the 1st house is those who

request

>it and the 7th those who are being challenged (what do y'all think???)

then

>the first has a lot of action but the ruler.....MARs...is weak in the

12th

>in Libra. That looks like a lot of noise without any success.

 

The ascendant lord and the 7th lord are conjoined in a weak position.

Venus

(7th lord) has passed Mars in the zodiac, but Mars is higher above the

horizon. Venus and Mars are in mutual reception as well as conjoined. Are

they fighting for position or cooperating?

 

Both Venus and Mars have been transiting the constellation of Libra (not

the sign) which deals with legal affairs. (This transit also legalized gay

marriages in Canada, but also has led to the first gay divorces. Also we

have the legal election hassles in Ukraine and the Scott Peterson story.)

This is the lunar mansion of Vishaka, whose planetary lord is Jupiter, who

rules the courts. It's interesting--neither Venus nor Mars can go anywhere

through dispositorship as they fall into each other, sort of like a figure

8.

 

>Still, it is a new Moon, that does give momentum. Merc. Retro. suggests

the

>recount Mars and Venus are both weak doesn't look like folks will come

>together after the recount. Loks like another 4 years of bitterness.

>Notice that lord of the 1st and 7th are both weak. No body wins.

Neptune

>in the 3rd...more scandal Uranus angluar to Venus: concern about a

change

>of events, but Venus is very weak and URanus too far from the ASC DSC

axis

>to indicate big change.

 

Thanks for your comments and interpretation of this chart, Cynthia. Could

you please post the link to Joni's page on the lunar mansions? You or

someone else posted it here a while ago.

 

Thanks,

Therese

 

 

 

 

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