Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 That is interesting, but I think that you really need to know events in the life of the native and test from there. It is difficult enough when you have three times, let alone three dates and three times! In all event, if you are going to attempt a rectification, you have a very large job ahead of you. Best regards, Bert Fannin www.keen.com/ltastrology Hi Bert Is the date of BinLaden's jihad in 1998 and the 11 September attack not sufficient for a try to correct? Lois Rodden's Data Bank notified Bin Laden's birthplace as Riyadh in Saudi Arabia (biographical report). His mother was from Syrian origine.First he lived with his mother.Later his father brought him over to his own place Jiddah in Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden's radix-Mc, (if 30 July 1957 8.10.13 AM) is conjunct tr Saturn of the WTC attack. There is no time left for me to study it all over again. Regards Anny > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Wed, 8 Dec 2004 09:52:34 -0600 " cynthianovak " <cynthianovak RE: Re: [PoliticalAstrology] Birth Time Rectification Of Osama Bin Laden TO All For what it's worth, I've used the July 30th date pretty well with just transits. I was able to put in my monthly planner (www.cynthianovak.com) that OBL's fate would be known in October. I based this upon the transits of several planets to the July 30th chart in September. I assumed that he would be pushed out to make a tape of there would be some public push that would surface after Mars passed the stellium. You might want to look at the July 30th chart just to see. It seems to be a chart of someone who would take on legend or " godlike " stature with so many planets near Regulus just musing c Bert Fannin [bwfannin] Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:16 AM PoliticalAstrology Cc: Re: [PoliticalAstrology] Birth Time Rectification Of Osama Bin Laden martin stock wrote: >I ran the data through Janus and using tropical, rather than >Vedic/sidereal I found some very supportive transits to Radix for the >9/11 event >T SA 90 POF (0')and 135 R NE (7') >T SU 45 R MA (22') >T MA 45 R CH (16') >P SA 0 R Vx (16') >etc >Osama Bin Laden, Jun 28 1957, 10:27:15 AM Jiddah Saudi Arabia >Also with this natal chart SU/MO = NE >and AS/MC = SA = CH >this is in the 16th harmonic (22.5 dial) and is an excellent arrangement >for someone who has become elusive and unknowable yet a symbol of >retribution for the wrong done to the Islamic world. >As a working Hypothesis it is certainly a potentially useful chart. >thank you for your work and for sharing it with us >Martin > > >kanbosastro wrote: > > > >>Dear KP Lovers, >> >>I found on web www.astrodatabank.com birth details of Osama bin >>laden. >> >>acording to WWW.astrodatabank.com three dates areavailable as under: >>30th july 1957 . 10th march 1957 , 27th june 1957 BITH PLCE JEDDAH >> >>thay quote somany astrologer about date and time. but i start >>checking by KP Method so i put Ruling planet on 04th dec.2004 >>@20:59:57 at L G Hospital/Ahmedabad India 23 N 00 72 E 36 >> >>D.L. : SAT >>Asc. 03:02:18:24 MOO , JUP , RAHU , MER >>MOON : 04:14:33:35 SUN , VEN , VEN , JUP >> >>according to rule RP Asc = Birth Moon >> >>For Day we have to check Mon , For Month we have to chack Sun and >>for Year we have to check JUP >> >>10th March 1957 JUP was @4:00 AM (jeddah)(00.00 GMT) >> JUP Rt. 05.04.42.26 MER ,SUN ,SAT >> >>27TH Jun 1957 JUP was @4:00 AM (jeddah)(00.00 GMT) >> JUP 05.00.49.36 MER, SUN, RAHU >> >>30Th JULY 1957 JUP was @4:00 AM (jeddah)(00.00 GMT) >> JUP 05.05.25.29 MER, SUN, MER >>RP Asc = MOO , JUP , RAHU , MER sub lord is supremo so check JUP 's >>sub for all three year. >>____________________ >> >> That is interesting, but I think that you really need to know events in the life of the native and test from there. It is difficult enough when you have three times, let alone three dates and three times! In all event, if you are going to attempt a rectification, you have a very large job ahead of you. Best regards, Bert Fannin www.keen.com/ltastrology > > > > > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Thanks Anny and Bert I agree with you. I went through those details in painful detail 3 years ago. I went over all three charts, his family on and on. I do not suggest that anyone agree with me, just offering the chart that I have found works. Please, go through the details and let me know what you find. There is a lot of biographical data on this notorious native. Please, if you look at this chart and see things that do NOT fit the biographical data I would like to hear it. Or, if there are things in the other charts that look like someone of international fame, I sure don't see that, but am certainly open. c Anny van Berckel [avbdk] Thursday, December 09, 2004 4:00 PM RE: Digest Number 970 That is interesting, but I think that you really need to know events in the life of the native and test from there. It is difficult enough when you have three times, let alone three dates and three times! In all event, if you are going to attempt a rectification, you have a very large job ahead of you. Best regards, Bert Fannin www.keen.com/ltastrology Hi Bert Is the date of BinLaden's jihad in 1998 and the 11 September attack not sufficient for a try to correct? Lois Rodden's Data Bank notified Bin Laden's birthplace as Riyadh in Saudi Arabia (biographical report). His mother was from Syrian origine.First he lived with his mother.Later his father brought him over to his own place Jiddah in Saudi Arabia. Bin Laden's radix-Mc, (if 30 July 1957 8.10.13 AM) is conjunct tr Saturn of the WTC attack. There is no time left for me to study it all over again. Regards Anny > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Wed, 8 Dec 2004 09:52:34 -0600 " cynthianovak " <cynthianovak RE: Re: [PoliticalAstrology] Birth Time Rectification Of Osama Bin Laden TO All For what it's worth, I've used the July 30th date pretty well with just transits. I was able to put in my monthly planner (www.cynthianovak.com) that OBL's fate would be known in October. I based this upon the transits of several planets to the July 30th chart in September. I assumed that he would be pushed out to make a tape of there would be some public push that would surface after Mars passed the stellium. You might want to look at the July 30th chart just to see. It seems to be a chart of someone who would take on legend or " godlike " stature with so many planets near Regulus just musing c Bert Fannin [bwfannin] Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:16 AM PoliticalAstrology Cc: Re: [PoliticalAstrology] Birth Time Rectification Of Osama Bin Laden martin stock wrote: >I ran the data through Janus and using tropical, rather than >Vedic/sidereal I found some very supportive transits to Radix for the >9/11 event >T SA 90 POF (0')and 135 R NE (7') >T SU 45 R MA (22') >T MA 45 R CH (16') >P SA 0 R Vx (16') >etc >Osama Bin Laden, Jun 28 1957, 10:27:15 AM Jiddah Saudi Arabia >Also with this natal chart SU/MO = NE >and AS/MC = SA = CH >this is in the 16th harmonic (22.5 dial) and is an excellent arrangement >for someone who has become elusive and unknowable yet a symbol of >retribution for the wrong done to the Islamic world. >As a working Hypothesis it is certainly a potentially useful chart. >thank you for your work and for sharing it with us >Martin > > >kanbosastro wrote: > > > >>Dear KP Lovers, >> >>I found on web www.astrodatabank.com birth details of Osama bin >>laden. >> >>acording to WWW.astrodatabank.com three dates areavailable as under: >>30th july 1957 . 10th march 1957 , 27th june 1957 BITH PLCE JEDDAH >> >>thay quote somany astrologer about date and time. but i start >>checking by KP Method so i put Ruling planet on 04th dec.2004 >>@20:59:57 at L G Hospital/Ahmedabad India 23 N 00 72 E 36 >> >>D.L. : SAT >>Asc. 03:02:18:24 MOO , JUP , RAHU , MER >>MOON : 04:14:33:35 SUN , VEN , VEN , JUP >> >>according to rule RP Asc = Birth Moon >> >>For Day we have to check Mon , For Month we have to chack Sun and >>for Year we have to check JUP >> >>10th March 1957 JUP was @4:00 AM (jeddah)(00.00 GMT) >> JUP Rt. 05.04.42.26 MER ,SUN ,SAT >> >>27TH Jun 1957 JUP was @4:00 AM (jeddah)(00.00 GMT) >> JUP 05.00.49.36 MER, SUN, RAHU >> >>30Th JULY 1957 JUP was @4:00 AM (jeddah)(00.00 GMT) >> JUP 05.05.25.29 MER, SUN, MER >>RP Asc = MOO , JUP , RAHU , MER sub lord is supremo so check JUP 's >>sub for all three year. >>____________________ >> >> That is interesting, but I think that you really need to know events in the life of the native and test from there. It is difficult enough when you have three times, let alone three dates and three times! In all event, if you are going to attempt a rectification, you have a very large job ahead of you. Best regards, Bert Fannin www.keen.com/ltastrology > > > > > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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