Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 psyclesunending wrote: >Thanks for your opinion, Therese. The difficulty of getting thousands >on the streets to blockade buildings is making them aware that they >and their nation has been ripped off by a cohort of criminals. If the >public is not aware of the scale of the problem, it's very difficult >to motivate large numbers like in Ukraine, to stage mass protest and >civil disobedience. Please make suggestions as to how to make mass >numbers of Americans aware of the extent of the problem. Thanks > >Namaste > > Brian > > >PoliticalAstrology , " therese92003 " ><therese92003> wrote: > > >>PoliticalAstrology , " Brian McNaughton " >><psycles@i...> wrote: >> >> >>>============= >>> >>>The Mercury Coalition for Honest Elections had a meeting tonight >>> >>> >at > > >>which we made plans for a rally on the west steps of the state >>Capitol in Denver for Saturday, 11 December `04, at noon... >> >>Brian, >> >>If you and others who live in big cities really want to make an >>impression that will put you in the news, forget the 'rally.' >>Mobilize thousands and thousands (in each city) and sit down in the >>streets. Stop traffic and stop business for the day. Rallys aren't >>doing much in this country. >> >>We have to do something to stop our daily day-to-day living >> >> >patterns. > > >>Mass action by stopping traffic and all activity for a day or >> >> >longer. > > >>Close down banks and businesses. Refuse to go to work, etc. But you >>need the majority to make an impression, not just a few hundred or >>even a thousand people demonstrating on the steps of a building. >>We're way past the point where all we do is demonstrate with a few >>signs. >> >>Therese >> >> > > > >___________________________ > > Protests are all well and good, and built into the history of our nation. But remember before you all go charging out there, it does have consequences. We now have a deeply faith driven and fanatical administration that thinks it has a mandate for God to do what ever the hell it want to. It is also deeply paranoid. Those who do not agree are the same as traders and have committed treason. It is not impossible that the gang of thugs will turn the authorities on anyone and every one who have the nerve and Gaul to protest. Just be aware and let your conscious be your guide. Bert Fannin veteran of the Civil Rights Voter registration Drive > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 therese92003 wrote: >PoliticalAstrology , Bert Fannin ><bwfannin@e...> wrote: > > >>Protests are all well and good, and built into the history of >>our nation. But remember before you all go charging out there, it >> >> >does have consequences. We now have a deeply faith driven and >fanatical administration that thinks it has a mandate for God to do >what ever the hell it want to. It is also deeply paranoid. Those who >do not agree are the same as traders and have committed treason. It >is not impossible that the gang of thugs will turn the authorities on >anyone and every one who have the nerve and Gaul to protest. Just be >aware and let your conscious be your guide. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Bert, your warnings ring true. There's a book out there that >describes the predictions of the Native American visionary, No-Eyes. >Mary Summer Rain wrote the book, PHOENIX RISING. The visions in that >book were given in the mid-80s. Many have already come true. Here's >one prediction that hasn't happened yet: > >(page 117-118) Mary's vision-dream: Cities were in shambles from >crazed rioting crowds. All minorities were taking revenge on the >unjust world. Buildings were crackling as hellish flames hungrily >licked and gutted. Windows were blown out. Explosions ripped. Groups >of angry weapon-wielding gangs roamed the rubble-littered streets... > >(page 122-123) " They were rioting, " Mary says later to her mentor No- >Eyes. " They were angry, insane with anger... > > " But why, Summer? " > > " I suppose they were revolting against injustices done to them. They >probably had had enough suppression, and they decided to take matters >into their own hands. " > >No-Eyes: [ " But you have left out the *why*...Besides, there were >white people in those gangs...This time **all** people are minor >people...] " > >Mary (puzzled): " How can that be? I mean, who's left to be superior? " > >No-Eyes: " State peoples, Summer. " > > " The government? " > >No-Eyes: [ " Listen, Summer. This be very important. The state people >are first gonna make two or three bad laws for people. People won't >have any say about these laws. These laws are made in a big building >in the state. " ] > >Mary: " Can you give me more information here? " > >No-Eyes: (checking inner vision...) [ " There are seven or eight men in >dark dresses " ] > >Mary: " Could there be women in this group? Could there be as many as >nine people in long black robes? " > >No-Eyes: (checking inner vision) [ " You're right. There are nine " ] > >Mary: " No-Eyes, those people are called the Supreme Court Justices. " > >(...) > >No-Eyes: [ " They're going to make more than two or three bad laws for >people. They'll make laws to take away peoples' private life, private >rights to *spirit* ways, private everything even!...Keep your eyes on >this court, watch all the laws it's gonna make. (The reaction) is >going to be all over. It's gonna go all over the land...it will be >the start of the finish. " ] >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >No-Eyes speaks in broken English, but it has to be read in the >context of the entire book. (The introductory book in the No-Eyes >series is SPIRIT SONG.) I've put No-Eyes' meaning in brackets. No- >Eyes appears to be a true visionary. PHOENIX RISING is a book about >the future, the predictions being given in the mid 80s. A few >predictions that have already come true: > >Relocation of key factories overseas (outsourcing) >Small business failures >Increase in corporate crime >Increase in personal bankruptcies >Runaway credit purchases >Earthquakes in new areas (eventually major devastation in CA) >Record-breaking flooding >Intensified hurricane devastation >Rock/mud slides >Arms escalation >Terrorism increases >Higher incidents of train derailments/accidents >Plane crashes increase >Political church actions >Government intervention > >Oh well....this is only a sampling. If you decide to read the book, >choose a bright sunny day outdoors. Don't read it before going to bed >at night. And read SPIRIT SONG first, which introduces No-Eyes and >gives a silver lining to it all. > >Blessings, >Therese > >_____________________________ > > That is a frighting vision of the future, and one that could well come true, if only a few things changed. But my warning was not of crowds that got out of hand (though I've seen that too) but of what the response of the government might be, under the current paranoid and out of control administration. All I say is be of ware of what the consequences are, before you go out and protest. Then and only then, let your conscience be your guide. Bert > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Dear Bert and All This is an aside: Have you ever wondered why visions of the future are filled with fire, floods, blood and riotous crowds? The good stuff all seems to be blissful out-of-body stuff and not part of this world. I was fascinated by this very thing. Years ago, in the 80's I was introduced to Holotropic breathwork, now called Grofian breathwork. It was developed by Stanislav Grof who first started working with altered states of consciousness in the 60's in Czechoslovakia using LSD 25. The altered states would run a series of archetypes, or archetypal experiences. Later, while in the US [there's a long story here] he developed a technique that combines deep breathing and music to access these states. I've done this a number of times and the visions are always so clear. I wonder if these prophetic visions aren't part of the human psyche. I don't know, perhaps the primal or reptilian brain. I'm musing here but since those experiences, which felt so real, I always wonder about prophetic visions. Are there any that are optimistic? thanks all c Bert Fannin [bwfannin] Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:52 PM PoliticalAstrology Cc: Re: [PoliticalAstrology] Re: Denver rally to wake up media to vote fraud therese92003 wrote: >PoliticalAstrology , Bert Fannin ><bwfannin@e...> wrote: > > >>Protests are all well and good, and built into the history of >>our nation. But remember before you all go charging out there, it >> >> >does have consequences. We now have a deeply faith driven and >fanatical administration that thinks it has a mandate for God to do >what ever the hell it want to. It is also deeply paranoid. Those who >do not agree are the same as traders and have committed treason. It >is not impossible that the gang of thugs will turn the authorities on >anyone and every one who have the nerve and Gaul to protest. Just be >aware and let your conscious be your guide. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Bert, your warnings ring true. There's a book out there that >describes the predictions of the Native American visionary, No-Eyes. >Mary Summer Rain wrote the book, PHOENIX RISING. The visions in that >book were given in the mid-80s. Many have already come true. Here's >one prediction that hasn't happened yet: > >(page 117-118) Mary's vision-dream: Cities were in shambles from >crazed rioting crowds. All minorities were taking revenge on the >unjust world. Buildings were crackling as hellish flames hungrily >licked and gutted. Windows were blown out. Explosions ripped. Groups >of angry weapon-wielding gangs roamed the rubble-littered streets... > >(page 122-123) " They were rioting, " Mary says later to her mentor No- >Eyes. " They were angry, insane with anger... > > " But why, Summer? " > > " I suppose they were revolting against injustices done to them. They >probably had had enough suppression, and they decided to take matters >into their own hands. " > >No-Eyes: [ " But you have left out the *why*...Besides, there were >white people in those gangs...This time **all** people are minor >people...] " > >Mary (puzzled): " How can that be? I mean, who's left to be superior? " > >No-Eyes: " State peoples, Summer. " > > " The government? " > >No-Eyes: [ " Listen, Summer. This be very important. The state people >are first gonna make two or three bad laws for people. People won't >have any say about these laws. These laws are made in a big building >in the state. " ] > >Mary: " Can you give me more information here? " > >No-Eyes: (checking inner vision...) [ " There are seven or eight men in >dark dresses " ] > >Mary: " Could there be women in this group? Could there be as many as >nine people in long black robes? " > >No-Eyes: (checking inner vision) [ " You're right. There are nine " ] > >Mary: " No-Eyes, those people are called the Supreme Court Justices. " > >(...) > >No-Eyes: [ " They're going to make more than two or three bad laws for >people. They'll make laws to take away peoples' private life, private >rights to *spirit* ways, private everything even!...Keep your eyes on >this court, watch all the laws it's gonna make. (The reaction) is >going to be all over. It's gonna go all over the land...it will be >the start of the finish. " ] >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >No-Eyes speaks in broken English, but it has to be read in the >context of the entire book. (The introductory book in the No-Eyes >series is SPIRIT SONG.) I've put No-Eyes' meaning in brackets. No- >Eyes appears to be a true visionary. PHOENIX RISING is a book about >the future, the predictions being given in the mid 80s. A few >predictions that have already come true: > >Relocation of key factories overseas (outsourcing) >Small business failures >Increase in corporate crime >Increase in personal bankruptcies >Runaway credit purchases >Earthquakes in new areas (eventually major devastation in CA) >Record-breaking flooding >Intensified hurricane devastation >Rock/mud slides >Arms escalation >Terrorism increases >Higher incidents of train derailments/accidents >Plane crashes increase >Political church actions >Government intervention > >Oh well....this is only a sampling. If you decide to read the book, >choose a bright sunny day outdoors. Don't read it before going to bed >at night. And read SPIRIT SONG first, which introduces No-Eyes and >gives a silver lining to it all. > >Blessings, >Therese > >_________________________ ____ > > That is a frighting vision of the future, and one that could well come true, if only a few things changed. But my warning was not of crowds that got out of hand (though I've seen that too) but of what the response of the government might be, under the current paranoid and out of control administration. All I say is be of ware of what the consequences are, before you go out and protest. Then and only then, let your conscience be your guide. Bert > > > > > > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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