Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 was: Re: Why Bush is President in Saturn Dasa Dear Steve and all, John Kerry's sun is in Ophiuchus, which is more like a doctor than a politician. It is interesting to consider constellations and single stars next to the usual zodiac and nakshatras. From a discussionlist StarTower/ I got this interesting post about the constellation of John Kerry's sun: Let's keep in mind, for those of us who are charting new " astrology " territory with this " new " " 13th sign, " that Ophiuchus is not a politician or a leader. He is a master physician, god of wisdom, science, architecture, astrology-astronomy (etc.). Taking a step back energetically for a moment to glimpse the far view, we can see the hand of Ophiuchus in this election has been applied with the net result being a healing of this country in a number of ways. The clear message is, " Whose hands are clean? Yes, this is who and what America is. Deal with it. " What did Ophiuchus John Kerry " reporting for duty " accomplish? The Kerry team's work resulted in the reversal of a trend of voter apathy in this country; this election was responsible for packing the polls from one end of the country to the other, proving that people do care and people do know they have the power. Secondly, by demonizing Bush over the Iraq war and other issues, this campaign forced people to take a stand one way or another on whether to blame Bush or give him a vote of confidence in support. The people have forgiven Bush for whatever mistakes may have been made, and have given Bush the compassionate vote. Public opinion polls have let him know the whole country is concerned about the road he is leading us down. It is now up to him to take steps to lead the country in the direction the American public would rather be headed in. So my bottom line is still THE PHAROAH IS EGYPT as I have always said; Ophiuchus is not a presidential sign/archetype and has entered his presence on the planet without crossing the line of his archetype base and simultaneously has demonstrated an ability to apply healing energy without having to cross job boundaries in order to do it. Ophiuchus Kerry has revived the American Spirit through reunifying the country resoundingly under President George W. Bush, Jr., who did not clearly win the last election and who has been skating on thin ice since then. From a certain perspective Kerry HAS helped us build a stronger America. How that plays out over time has yet to be experienced. Greetings, Anne Steve wrote Hi Anne, Does this mean that the Sun becomes a killer in the same sense that Saturn gets a killer or maraka status, or does it mean that persons with the Sun conjoined to Sirius can become killers? Thanks for the info and the link--I just took a class today with Bernadette Brady on eclipses, but unfortuneately missed her class on fixed stars. Are you or others familiar with her work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Anne wrote: >was: Re: Why Bush is President in Saturn Dasa > >Dear Steve and all, > >John Kerry's sun is in Ophiuchus, which is more like a doctor than a politician. > > > Ok, I'll bite. Why is Ophiuchus more like a Doctor then a Politician? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 At 09:43 AM 11/7/04 +0100, Anne wrote: > >John Kerry's sun is in Ophiuchus, which is more like a doctor than a politician. Dear Anne, While the relationship of stars to planets may be very important, we have to keep in mind that our knowledge is still in its infancy. Anne Wright had done a wonderful job of collecting most of the known writing about astrology, constellations and fixed stars. This doesn't mean that everything on her site is correct. I expect much of the information on her site is only mythology or guess work, with little real research as to how it all works in relationship to the planets. We haven't really had the tools to research the fixed stars before the Rodden/McDonough AstroDatabank. Forsaking attempted prediction (which I'm obviously no good at!!) I plan to spend the rest of my life researching the effects of the stars in relationship to planets and signs of the zodiac. That includes seeing if there is any evidence that signs exit. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 I once asked Anne Wright why not put them into sidereal also. It would just be an extra column. She thought it was an interesting idea. (Read)...Yeah, like that's going to happen! The stars are a mess. Some will have six commentaries giving as many rulerships. Bush's SSR gives Moon-Uranus on the MC which means an 'engineered' presidency. The answer's right there in planets. But looking to the 'fixed sterres' we find Sadalmelik, Formalhaut, Skat each with a plethora of influences according to authorities and confusing everyone. Dark*Star ___ Therese Hamilton wrote: > While the relationship of stars to planets may be very important, we have > to keep in mind that our knowledge is still in its infancy. Anne Wright had > done a wonderful job of collecting most of the known writing about > astrology, constellations and fixed stars. This doesn't mean that > everything on her site is correct. I expect much of the information on her > site is only mythology or guess work, with little real research as to how > it all works in relationship to the planets. We haven't really had the > tools to research the fixed stars before the Rodden/McDonough AstroDatabank. > > Forsaking attempted prediction (which I'm obviously no good at!!) I plan to > spend the rest of my life researching the effects of the stars in > relationship to planets and signs of the zodiac. That includes seeing if > there is any evidence that signs exit. > > Therese > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Hi Therese, I agree with you that we cannot know everything, but I am stilll enthusiastic about keeping findeing new interesting material. I have discovered a great great discussion group where also a lot of people explore the interpretations of constellations: StarTower/ The listowner Donna is also familiar with Anne wright's website and also created a website about Ophiuchus: http://www.startistics.com/. Ofcourse I don't sell any information I find as " completely true " but I am open for various interpretations. Greetings, Anne - Therese Hamilton Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:36 PM Re: Kerry's sun constellation At 09:43 AM 11/7/04 +0100, Anne wrote: > >John Kerry's sun is in Ophiuchus, which is more like a doctor than a politician. Dear Anne, While the relationship of stars to planets may be very important, we have to keep in mind that our knowledge is still in its infancy. Anne Wright had done a wonderful job of collecting most of the known writing about astrology, constellations and fixed stars. This doesn't mean that everything on her site is correct. I expect much of the information on her site is only mythology or guess work, with little real research as to how it all works in relationship to the planets. We haven't really had the tools to research the fixed stars before the Rodden/McDonough AstroDatabank. Forsaking attempted prediction (which I'm obviously no good at!!) I plan to spend the rest of my life researching the effects of the stars in relationship to planets and signs of the zodiac. That includes seeing if there is any evidence that signs exit. Therese " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Dear Bert, Ofcourse I am not refering to everything in Kerry's chart, but I was just refering to his sun which makes an opposition to the planets in his sixth house uranius and mars. Ophiuchus/scorpio ascendant and coniunct with his sun makes him appear more that way than his martian/uranian influences in the sixth house " would like " . He has also a lot of other hard aspects on his ascendant, except for Jupiter in 9, which gives a great impact in giving people faith. Ok about Op[hiuchus: Ophiuchus represented Aesculapius, the ancient healer, believed to be the ancestor of Hippocrates (born 460 BCE) the great physician of Cos, and Serpens was his symbol of healing. The serpent is the symbol for the poison (venom) that can both cure and kill, Ophiuchus controls it and uses it to heal. This same snake is found on the symbol of medicine worldwide, the staff of the god Mercury, the caduceus, and both these constellations are associated with it, the caduceus shows two snakes coiling around a central rod surmounted by two wings of the bird on top. More information about Ophiuchus is to be found at: http://www.winshop.com.au/annew/Ophiuchus.html or http://www.startistics.com/ophiuchus/index.html Greetings, Anne - Bert Fannin ; Ken Bowser Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:43 AM Re: Kerry's sun constellation Anne wrote: >was: Re: Why Bush is President in Saturn Dasa > >Dear Steve and all, > >John Kerry's sun is in Ophiuchus, which is more like a doctor than a politician. > > > Ok, I'll bite. Why is Ophiuchus more like a Doctor then a Politician? " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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