John Edwards' Election Lunar Return

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Hi everyone,

 

In retrospect and in light of conflicting birth times from various sources,

I think that the hour we have for Kerry's birth data is very 'iffy,' so it

perhaps doesn't make much sense to talk about his chart. Unfortunately many

astrologers used the time that for whatever reason came to the fore, and

saw victory for Kerry. I suspect that the Mars-Ketu (S.node) conjunction

was more prominent in return charts than Jupiter-Venus, but we may never know.

 

John Edwards' chart, however, has a more reliable time frame, as posted on

the ADB site and from information provided by Sri Siri Khalsa from New

Mexico. We still don't have a written birth record for Edwards, however.

 

Birth Data

Birth Name: Edwards, John

Birth 06/10/1953 (June 10, 1953)

Birth Time: 07:02 (07:02 AM) EST(+5:00)

Birth Place: Seneca, SC

Latitude / Longitude: 34 N 41 / 82 W 57

Rodden Rating / Source: A / From memory

Source Notes: An anonymous source who obtained the time from an anonymous

Edwards staffer. In addition Leslie Astar Walker wrote to PT via e-mail

dated 1/30/2004: " I just met his mother tonight and she said (in no

uncertain terms) that it's 7:02 AM. "

 

Now, looking at Edwards' election lunar:

 

http://users.snowcrest.net/sunrise/aedwards-oct04-lr.jpg

 

Instead of his partner being called as winner in the election, Edwards'

discovers that his wife has breast cancer!

 

Let's see: Supposing Edwards' birth time is reasonably accurate. Venus and

Jupiter straddle the MC...but the Uranus quincunx (150 degree aspect of

Mars) to the MC is only minutes from being exact, and within a drgree of

aspecting Venus. The Uranus aspect is a little further from Jupiter but

still within orb. An election won, but electronically scrambled (Uranus) by

optical scan equipment in 39 states, but especially in Florida?

 

Also, experimenting with house lords, Venus is the 7th lord here--the

competition elevated to the MC and conjunct Jupiter? And Mars--the lord of

first--it's in the middle ground with its dispositor in the 12th house.

 

Then we have transiting Mars in the degree of natal Neptune, with Neptune

ruled Pisces being Edwards' 10th house sign.

 

Siderealists, should we be paying a little more attention to house lords as

Jyotish does?

 

How about Elisabeth's breast cancer? Venus is the 7th lord in this lunar

return, but even ignoring house lords, Venus still relates to women (wife

or otherwise) in astrology. Venus at the MC receives the close quincunx of

Uranus. And using sidereal concepts, Uranus squares a foreground 7th Moon.

 

I believe with this chart we are faced head on with the multiplicity of

meanings attached to each planet and the difficulty of choosing just the

right aspects, positions and associations to correctly read the chart. It's

not so simple as 'angular benefics or malefics.' The answer may be, as very

skilled astrologers know, to use several different approaches and see if

there is a consensus in the outcome for predictive situations.

 

Therese