RE: Digest Number 629

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Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:13:08 -0400 (EDT)

zqhelisabeth <zqh_elisabeth

RE: Digest Number 628

 

Thanks Anny. Observing the people around me, and

those who are not,

 

and those who are not??????? What should

I understand?

 

I first found that there are

definitely patterns that relate to the stars. But

these patterns are often not the ones that are

described in most astrology books that I've read.

I never thaught in patterns in my daily life.

Patterns are visible in birthcharts; it is more or

less theory. I experience my family in traits of

their sunsign, but naturally I take in view their

whole chart to study, if they ask me to do.

Lately I noticed that I lived up to the ideals/traits

(in dayly life), which are the traits of sunsign opposite

to my own. My sun is in Capricornus. My daughter's sun in

Cancer, is working out her ideals of Capricornus. She is

quite ambitious etc etc and working out quite dilligently

her career, before she decided to become a mother.Contrary

to that I stopped my career to become a mother, after I

married.

Quite surprised I am about your great disappointment

in astrological descriptions to recognize your people's sunsign

I noticed in the past, that various people around me lived up

greatly to their sunsign, but Moon in sign was influental too.

But do not expect to recognize it all in one night or day.

Be aware, that the tropical astrologers are practicing

astrology theory/experiences, which are grown and written down

in a time that the exquinox was still in Taurus, instead of now

in Pisces!!!! Perhaps you need an old astrologybook instead of

the ones that are pressed now to be content with the study.

I experienced also that several astrologers are able

to observe a person wonderwell qua sphere around a person.

Formerly I met a lady astrologer in a society for research

on astrology, who pushed my birthtime back and forth to get

a Pisces Ascendant for me. I was quite surprised about this

shuffling with the birthtime. Sometimes hours she told me.

When I switched to the sidereal zodiac later, my ascendant

turned into Pisces, my own birthtime. She practiced then the

tropical zodiac. These astrologers are not easy to content with

a birthtime, because the tropical zodiac does not produce the

reality of a person's sphere/soul.

First look inside of yourself for experience first. The

delineation of a chart does not turn into an easy job with my

explanation. " Good things need time " I heard my love tell me

in the past.

Succes with your study!

Anny

 

 

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Hi Anny,

 

You wrote:

and those who are not??????? What should

I understand?

 

>>>Those who are not around me are those who I

don't know personally or in " real life " , such as

famous persons from the past (Queen Elizabeth I,

Leonardo da Vinci) or celebrities.

 

You wrote:

Lately I noticed that I lived up to the

ideals/traits

(in dayly life), which are the traits of sunsign

opposite

to my own. My sun is in Capricornus. My

daughter's sun in

Cancer, is working out her ideals of Capricornus.

She is

quite ambitious etc etc and working out quite

dilligently

her career, before she decided to become a

mother.Contrary

to that I stopped my career to become a mother,

after I

married.

 

>>>Are you talking about Sidereal Capricorn and

Sidereal Cancer? I've observed that people show

traits that fit the symbolism of the sign

opposite their own, but this is for the tropical

signs. Example: Trop Cancer is often very

introverted, aloof, and unsociable -- quite

Saturnine, which should be Capricorn. Was it

Saturn, the ruler of Capricorn, that was in the

past associated with the melancholic temperament

and the cranky genius type of personality? I

notice that tropical Cancers are often this type

and therefore resembles Saturn more than

Capricorn does.

 

 

You wrote:

Quite surprised I am about your great

disappointment

in astrological descriptions to recognize your

people's sunsign

 

>>>I was observing according to the tropical

zodiac. I found tropical sun signs to be

especially disappointing. Most of the time

people don't seem to fit their sun signs very

much. Tropical Moon signs are somewhat less

disappointing.

 

elisabeth

 

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