Budh akla ki nakla / Lalkitabee ji

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Respected Lalkitabee ji,

 

You have very beautifully explained the difference between 'Pragya'

and ' buddhi'.

 

Thank you sir.

 

With regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " lalkitabee "

<lalkitabee wrote:

>

> Respected Varun Ji & Girish Ji

> U can understand the Pragya & Buddhi as under:-

> koyee aisa bachchaa jisne kabhi bhi ghadaa na dekhaa ho aur uske

> father mitti ka ek ghadaa lekar aaye use dikhaa kar din ke samay

use

> samjhaa dain ki yahi ghadaa hotaa hai aur agar is par jor se chot

> kar dee jaaye ya unchaayee se gira diyaa jaye to yah foot(DESTROY)

> jaayegaa.yah baat bataa kar father us ghade ko uske saamne hee ROOM

> ke corner main rakh detaa hai.bachchey ko milaa huaa yah gyaan aur

> is gyaan ko samajhne main aur mind main store karne main jo cheez

> madad kar rahi hai vahi PRAGYA hai.Iske baad raat hone par aur

light

> na rehne par agar us bachchey ko usi ROOM main jaana padey aur

> achaanak hee uskaa haath us ghadey par lag jaaye to uskaa mind

ekdum

> use alert kartey huve pitaa ke dwaaraa samjhaaye gaye gyaan ko

jagaa

> degaa.Yaani father ke dwara dee gayee jaankaari ko uske mind main

> tazaa kar dega.Is baar bachcha father se mile gyaan ki NAQAL ka

> istemaal kartey huve jaan jayegaa ki ghadaa rakhaa huvaa hai aur

> saavdhani se ghade ko TOUCH karegaa.Bhaley hee andherey main ghadaa

> dikhayee na de lekin iska matlab yah kabhi nahi liya ja saktaa ki

> ghadaa us room main nahi hai, Isi tarah Gyan jab tak reveal nahi

> hota to iska matlab yah kabhi nahi ho saktaa ki vah hai hee

> nahi.Sirf ek lightpole ki jaroorat hoti hai aam jindagi main bhi

aur

> pragya se buddhi tak ke safar main bhi(yaani gyaan grahan karne tak

> PRAGYA prabal rahi jo ki Guru or Jupiter ka vishay hai aur gyan

> milne ke baad uskaa dobaraa istemaal " akal ki naqal ka andaa hai "

> matlab ki Budh ka subject hai.)Isiliye shayad varun ji Lalkitab

main

> likhaa hai ki aqal ki nakal ka andaa khan 9 main paidaa hotaa hai.

> Yahi karan hai ki aaj jo bhi vigyan lgtaa hai vah kuchh samay

> ke baad SAMANYA GYAAN = GENERAL KNOWLEDGE ban jaata hai.

> Shayad Yahi karan hai ki Lalkitab main bhi likha hai ki

sabhi

> grah budh ke daayrey main chakkar lagaatey hain. matlab saaf hai ki

> GOL GOL GHOOMTEY HAIN AUR BAAR BAAR GHOOMTEY HAIN ,YAANI JO CHAKKAR

> PEHLEY LIYAA USI KI NAQAL PAR DOBAARAA BHI CHAKKAR LAGAA RAHEY

> HAIN.Is aqal ki naqal ke janm sthan khana 9 ka malik bhi is andey

ki

> giraft se bach nahi pataa, isiliye UNREVEALED & REVEALED gyan ke

> fark ko samajhnaa mushkil hotaa hai. Lalkitab main theek likhaa

> hai " JHAGDAA AQAL(BUDH) O KISMAT (BRIHASPATI)HO "

> With Regards.

> Pt.Lalkitabee

> , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Girish ji,

> >

> > A very valuable and significant query indeed !

> >

> > Both in the traditional Vedic astrology and the Indian ethos {

> > maanas } buddhi and pragya have been treated as two different

> > attributes. Buddhi or intelligence [ loosely translated ] is some

> > thing which is seen and noticed. It is also quantifiable to some

> > extent through IQ tests etc. But 'Pragya' [ can not find a word

in

> > English ] is some thing which is `pradatta' or given or gifted;

it

> > is inherent and not acquired. Where as intelligence can be partly

> > acquired or enhanced or sharpened.

> >

> > In traditional Vedic astrology the 2nd house denotes `Pragya',

the

> > 5th house denotes buddhi and the 4th house denotes the

achievement

> > through buddhi in terms of university degree etc. Accordingly

> > Jupiter is the karak of pragya, mercury is the karak of buddhi

and

> > the moon is the karak of formal education.

> >

> > Yes you are right that the Lal Kitab does not consider mercury as

> > the seed of aqla , but an imitation [ mimicry] of it instead.

> It

> > says " aqla ka beej nahi magar aqla ki naqla hi budh ka anda hai "

[

> > 1942 urdu ed. page 184 line 26 ]

> >

> > The seed of the aqla is pragya. The perceptible form of pragya

> > acquired with effort is buddhi. The Lal Kitab explains it with an

> > example of a parrot that learns through imitation. The book

> > says " Totaa brahapati ki naqla kar raha hai " [ 1942 urdu ed.page

> > 180, line 9 ]

> >

> > Therefore like the traditional concept Lal Kitab also accepts

that

> > Jupiter is the seed of buddhi, mercury acquires the attribute of

> > intelligence through mimicking Jupiter. Jupiter is the source of

> all

> > Vivek [ ability to discern] and Pragya.

> >

> > In the traditional astrology the house # 2 is considered as the

> > karak of this Pragya, where as the Lal Kitab designates the house

> #

> > 9 to it. It says that this egg of aqla ki naqla originates in

the

> > house # 9 " jo kundali ke khana no 9 main paida hota hai " [ 1942

> > urdu ed. Page 185 line # 1 ]

> >

> > Here the Lal Kitab differs from the Vedic astrology in a way

> > because the traditional astrology considers the house # 2 as the

> > abode of Pragya where as the Lal Kitab considers the house # 9

for

> > it. I said `in a way' because both the houses # 2 and # 9 are the

> > pakka houses of Jupiter. I do not consider it as a significant

> > difference.

> >

> > Therefore it is true that mercury is acquired intelligence and

not

> > the inherent Pragya. It is also true that Jupiter is the karak of

> > Pragya which the mercury imitates.

> >

> > This entire discussion once again proves that the Lal Kitab is

not

> a

> > system apart from the traditional Vedic system, instead it is

> > complimentary to the traditional system. Like the Vedic astrology

> > the Lal Kitab also doesn't consider buddhi synonymous with

Pragya.

> > The Lal Kitab also makes a distinction between the two like the

> > Vedic astrology.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

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> > , " girish_raheja "

> > <girish_raheja@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sirs,

> > >

> > > In traditional Vedic astrology mercury is considered as

> > > signifying 'buddhi' or akla. It is the 5th house which is

> studied

> > for

> > > it.

> > > But in Lal Kitab mercury is said to be the imitation of akla -

> > akla ki

> > > nakla - and not the akla itself.

> > > If that is so, then which planet represents the Akla or buddhi?

> > and

> > > which house should be studied for it?

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > >

> > > Girish Raheja

> > >

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