Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Respected Mishra ji, This is a very valuable document which should be preserved by every one for reference. I on behalf of the entire Aligarh group convey my gratitude for having posted this article in the group. We are especially grateful for your spirit to share knowledge, something old-timers feel so shy of doing. If all of us keep pooling our knowledge together, one day the Lal Kitab will be more intelligible and easy to understand. I would further request you to upload it in the files section so that it stays on record for all time to come in your name. With regards, Varun Trivedi , pradeep mishra <pm_pmishra wrote: > > Respected Sh. Varun JI, > > I have collected some information on Progeny. > I hope this will help us in understanding of this topic. > > With Regards, > Pradeep Mishra > > > > Children > Combination for Male Progeny in Natal Chart: > 1. If Mars is in former Houses and Jupiter in middle Houses and Mercury in Later Houses. > 2. If Mars is in former Houses and Mercury in middle Houses and Jupiter is in Later Houses. > 3. If Jupiter is in former Houses and Mars is in middle Houses and Mercury is in Later Houses. > > Combination of Daughter in Natal Chart: > 1. Jupiter in former houses and Mercury in Middle houses and Mars in Later Houses. > 2. Mercury in former houses and Jupiter in middle houses and Mars in later houses. > 3. Mercury in former houses and Mars in middle houses and Jupiter in later houses. > 4. If Mercury and Jupiter are in former houses and both are cojoined/confronted, at least one daughter. > > Q) When father suffers? > A) When Jupiter is in former houses and Mercury is in later houses and Jupiter aspects Mercury then > Father and child both would suffer beginning with the period of Mercury. > > Q) When father is destroyed? > A) When Mercury is in former houses and Jupiter is in later houses and Mercury aspects Jupiter, father > Will be destroyed with the beginning period of Mercury > > Q) When father is Unhappy? > A) In the following conditions father remains unhappy:- > i) Mars and Mercury in former houses and Jupiter in later houses. > ii) Jupiter is former houses and Mars + Mercury is in later houses. > iii) Mercury is in former houses and Mars + Jupiter is in later houses. > > Q) Father Unhappy but Children Happy? > A) When Mars is in former houses and Mercury + Jupiter is in later houses. > > Q) When native is superior to his parents? > A) When Sun conjoins friendly planets in natal chart but if the Sun conjoins the inferior planets the native's Children will be inferior to him. > > Q) Which houses should be evaluated for comforts of children? > A) 1,3,11 houses of Natal Chart. > > Q) When children will be the cause of father's sufferings & death? > A) Under the following combinations:-- > i) If Mercury destroys Jupiter OR > ii) Mercury is in fall OR > iii) Mercury is in the house of Jupiter OR > iv) Mercury conjoins the Jupiter. > > Q) When the Parents are not happy with children > A) When Saturn is in 3 House and Sun is in 5 House, parents suffer due to children. > > Q) When native enjoys all kind of comforts? > A) If Jupiter and Ketu aspects the Saturn in the Natal Chart. > > Q) Prosperity of Next Generation > A) When Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, Saturn or Sun is Exalted and established in the natal chart, the next Generation shall prosper. > > Q) Who will Live Long (Father or Mother)? > A) If Moon is in former house with respect to Jupiter Mother will live long else father will live long. > Moon is the significator of Mother, Mother-in-law and Jupiter is significator of Father, Grandfather or > Father-in-law. > If any of these planets i.e. Moon or Sun is afflicted with inimical planets the signification dies prior to the other. > > Q) How to know the Number of children? > A) How far the Jupiter is placed from Venus or (Venus+Mercury) together. > The number of houses in between the Venus or Jupiter is the general rule to count the number of children. > The house occupied by these planets should be excluded while counting. > > Q) Plenty of Children > A) If Saturn and constituent planets of Saturn (Jupiter conjoined Venus) in Ketu temperament exists. > Moon+Ketu in 5 House: 6 Sons. > Rahu in 11 House: 6 Daughters provided that Saturn is not in 6 House or debilitated. > 7 Sons if Male planets are not Malefic and Rahu is not in 11 House and Saturn is in 7 House. > > Q) Saturn in 5 House > A) One son till the age of Saturn i.e. 48 years provided that Native doesn't construct a house. > However, if some Male planets like Sun, Jupiter or Mars is established the male child shall sustain. > > Q) Mars Mercury (Rahu temper Saturn) > A) If constituent planets of Saturn (Mars + Mercury) > > Rahu temper exists, > The child dies in stomach of Mother. > In such a state, If Jupiter, Sun or Moon is benefic or > exalted or well aspected the child born in the 36 > years of age Shall survive and above rule is > overruled. Ketu in the natal chart should also be > examined with this, if Ketu is not Benefic the Venus > should be examined. > > Q) Rahu in 9 House > A) One son will be born between 21 years and 42 years > of age. > Thereafter 2 more sons will be born, at least 2 will > > flourish. > > > Q) When the native will die without a Son? > A) Jupiter in 3,8 and Mars in 2,5,9,12 > Jupiter in 1,5 and Sun in 2,5,9,12 > Jupiter in 4 and Moon in 2,5,9,12 > Sun in 3,8 and Mars in 1,5 > Sun in 6,7 and Mercury in 1,5 > Sun in 4 and Moon in 1,5 > Moon in 3,8 and Mars in 4 > Moon in 4 and Mars in 3,8 > Venus in 6,7 Mercury in 2,7 > Mercury in 12 and Rahu in 6,7 > Mercury in 8,10 and Saturn in 6,7 > Saturn in 12 and Rahu in 8,10 > Rahu in 6 without enemy planets and ketu in 12/ > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Respected Varun Ji - Do you agree wiith all scenarios provided? Best Regards, Iqbal Sent via Blackberry " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:02:29 LK discussion group Re: Progeny Document / Pradeep Mishra ji Respected Mishra ji, This is a very valuable document which should be preserved by every one for reference. I on behalf of the entire Aligarh group convey my gratitude for having posted this article in the group. We are especially grateful for your spirit to share knowledge, something old-timers feel so shy of doing. If all of us keep pooling our knowledge together, one day the Lal Kitab will be more intelligible and easy to understand. I would further request you to upload it in the files section so that it stays on record for all time to come in your name. With regards, Varun Trivedi <%40> @, pradeep mishra <pm_pmishra wrote: > > Respected Sh. Varun JI, > > I have collected some information on Progeny. > I hope this will help us in understanding of this topic. > > With Regards, > Pradeep Mishra > > > > Children > Combination for Male Progeny in Natal Chart: > 1. If Mars is in former Houses and Jupiter in middle Houses and Mercury in Later Houses. > 2. If Mars is in former Houses and Mercury in middle Houses and Jupiter is in Later Houses. > 3. If Jupiter is in former Houses and Mars is in middle Houses and Mercury is in Later Houses. > > Combination of Daughter in Natal Chart: > 1. Jupiter in former houses and Mercury in Middle houses and Mars in Later Houses. > 2. Mercury in former houses and Jupiter in middle houses and Mars in later houses. > 3. Mercury in former houses and Mars in middle houses and Jupiter in later houses. > 4. If Mercury and Jupiter are in former houses and both are cojoined/confronted, at least one daughter. > > Q) When father suffers? > A) When Jupiter is in former houses and Mercury is in later houses and Jupiter aspects Mercury then > Father and child both would suffer beginning with the period of Mercury. > > Q) When father is destroyed? > A) When Mercury is in former houses and Jupiter is in later houses and Mercury aspects Jupiter, father > Will be destroyed with the beginning period of Mercury > > Q) When father is Unhappy? > A) In the following conditions father remains unhappy:- > i) Mars and Mercury in former houses and Jupiter in later houses. > ii) Jupiter is former houses and Mars + Mercury is in later houses. > iii) Mercury is in former houses and Mars + Jupiter is in later houses. > > Q) Father Unhappy but Children Happy? > A) When Mars is in former houses and Mercury + Jupiter is in later houses. > > Q) When native is superior to his parents? > A) When Sun conjoins friendly planets in natal chart but if the Sun conjoins the inferior planets the native's Children will be inferior to him. > > Q) Which houses should be evaluated for comforts of children? > A) 1,3,11 houses of Natal Chart. > > Q) When children will be the cause of father's sufferings & death? > A) Under the following combinations:-- > i) If Mercury destroys Jupiter OR > ii) Mercury is in fall OR > iii) Mercury is in the house of Jupiter OR > iv) Mercury conjoins the Jupiter. > > Q) When the Parents are not happy with children > A) When Saturn is in 3 House and Sun is in 5 House, parents suffer due to children. > > Q) When native enjoys all kind of comforts? > A) If Jupiter and Ketu aspects the Saturn in the Natal Chart. > > Q) Prosperity of Next Generation > A) When Jupiter, Venus, Mercury, Saturn or Sun is Exalted and established in the natal chart, the next Generation shall prosper. > > Q) Who will Live Long (Father or Mother)? > A) If Moon is in former house with respect to Jupiter Mother will live long else father will live long. > Moon is the significator of Mother, Mother-in-law and Jupiter is significator of Father, Grandfather or > Father-in-law. > If any of these planets i.e. Moon or Sun is afflicted with inimical planets the signification dies prior to the other. > > Q) How to know the Number of children? > A) How far the Jupiter is placed from Venus or (Venus+Mercury) together. > The number of houses in between the Venus or Jupiter is the general rule to count the number of children. > The house occupied by these planets should be excluded while counting. > > Q) Plenty of Children > A) If Saturn and constituent planets of Saturn (Jupiter conjoined Venus) in Ketu temperament exists. > Moon+Ketu in 5 House: 6 Sons. > Rahu in 11 House: 6 Daughters provided that Saturn is not in 6 House or debilitated. > 7 Sons if Male planets are not Malefic and Rahu is not in 11 House and Saturn is in 7 House. > > Q) Saturn in 5 House > A) One son till the age of Saturn i.e. 48 years provided that Native doesn't construct a house. > However, if some Male planets like Sun, Jupiter or Mars is established the male child shall sustain. > > Q) Mars Mercury (Rahu temper Saturn) > A) If constituent planets of Saturn (Mars + Mercury) > > Rahu temper exists, > The child dies in stomach of Mother. > In such a state, If Jupiter, Sun or Moon is benefic or > exalted or well aspected the child born in the 36 > years of age Shall survive and above rule is > overruled. Ketu in the natal chart should also be > examined with this, if Ketu is not Benefic the Venus > should be examined. > > Q) Rahu in 9 House > A) One son will be born between 21 years and 42 years > of age. > Thereafter 2 more sons will be born, at least 2 will > > flourish. > > > Q) When the native will die without a Son? > A) Jupiter in 3,8 and Mars in 2,5,9,12 > Jupiter in 1,5 and Sun in 2,5,9,12 > Jupiter in 4 and Moon in 2,5,9,12 > Sun in 3,8 and Mars in 1,5 > Sun in 6,7 and Mercury in 1,5 > Sun in 4 and Moon in 1,5 > Moon in 3,8 and Mars in 4 > Moon in 4 and Mars in 3,8 > Venus in 6,7 Mercury in 2,7 > Mercury in 12 and Rahu in 6,7 > Mercury in 8,10 and Saturn in 6,7 > Saturn in 12 and Rahu in 8,10 > Rahu in 6 without enemy planets and ketu in 12/ > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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