Ayanamsa/Horary

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At 12:51 PM 4/30/04 -0700, Kit wrote:

>>Hi Therese.......So using the Lahiri/ Krishna do you count from O Tau or

O Aries?

 

Zero Aries, always. Only Fagan hyptothesized that the zodiac should begin

with Taurus. There is no concept like this in India.

 

>>In my use of novien charts I have stayed strictly with F/B rules. Open

for change. The main thing I like about novien's is using Sexascope for

compatibility charts etc....It also shows irregular attractions or I think

Fagan used deviant.

 

I have used the navamsa chart for the same purpose, noting the sexuality of

a person and also as a comparison between two people. I also use the

navamsa in other ways.

 

If you have any horoscope in front of you, you'll find that the Lahiri

positions are 53 minutes greater than Fagan-Bradley. The Krishnamurti

planetary positions are 59 minutes greater, just under a degree. As you can

see, K and L are very close. K.N. Krishnamurti adjusted the Lahiri ayanamsa

on the basis of very precise horary work. He'd ask, for example, " When will

the package arrive? " He worked it out almost to the second of time over

many years, based on the sub-periods within signs in relation to clock

times. His system is called the K.P. System. Unfortunately, the books are

badly written from an English point of view. I believe his children set

down the system in books to the best of their ability. The writing is poor.

 

Blessings,

Therese

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At 03:34 PM 4/30/04 -0700, Kit wrote:

>Not that it matters but it was Garth Allen who proposed the O Tau, Fagan

adopted it and applied it.

 

Gee....I should have known that!

 

Have asked several staunch siderealists why 0 Tau. Have not found a good

answer.

 

As far as I know,it's because 28 lunar mansions began with the Pleiades in

Taurus. But historically when the zodiac came into being in Mesopotamia and

later began to be used for horoscopes in Hellenistic times, Aries was the

first sign.

 

So going forward why is 0 Aries any better?

 

Aries is the first sign of the zodiac, tropical or sidereal. Anyhow...it

works for the Jyotish varga charts!

 

You have sparked my interest in Krishna's writings, I will search for

material.

 

Unfortuntely I believe the K.P. system is only the writings of his

children. Krishnamurti perhaps didn't write in English. I'm not sure.

Astroamerica.com may have some of the books or could tell you where to find

them. There are also some scattered smaller books by authors who describe

how they use the system. K used the system mainly for horary timing, so he

used the Placidus house system. However, the nakshatras work very well in

the dasa system and with transits. Say a planet transits a natal planet.

The nakshatra lord and sub is the key to where and how the transit will act.

 

Therese