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Hello, Breck.

 

In a message dated 99-12-05 14:06:24 EST, you write:

 

> I have considered Sidereal Astrology in the past. That is I investigated

> it somewhat. The Tropical " apologists " convinced me that Sidereal was not

> credible, for reasons I won't go into here.

 

The discrepancy between the two zodiacs was one of my biggest problems with

astrology. Only after meeting a Sidereal astrologer was I won over.

 

> I am however interested in

> learning more from those who DO believe Sidereal the best. And, I was

> surprised that Vedic Astrology does use the Sidereal approach.

 

1) Since it corrects for precession, the Sidereal zodiac is best to use for

transits, returns (a special case of transit), house ingresses, and synastry.

Since solar and lunar returns are the best predictive tools, they must be

precession-corrected to be accurate. (And isn't accurate prediction why

people get interested in astrology in the first place? Check the archives

for my post about JFK Jr's final solar & lunar returns & last ennead.)

 

2) If you take the Tropicalist logic to it's inevitable conclusion (ie, if

you're born on the first day of autumn, you're a Libra), then, since the

seasons are opposite on each side of the equator, two people with the same

birthday but born on opposite sides of the equator will have opposite sun

signs. Most northern hemispere Tropicalists don't like to admit this, but a

few from " down under " will.

 

Additionally, you might want to find the special Vedic Astrology issue of

_The Mountain Astrologer_ from a few years ago. The author of an article

called " Don't Take Away My Sun Sign " observed that many Aries he knows " would

give you the shirt off their backs, " wondered why Tauruses like Hitler and

Saddam were more Martian than Venusian, and so on.

 

> My birth data: July 3, 1948 at Tyler, Texas. Approximately 2:30 a.m.

C.S.T.

 

Thanks for the info so we could do your chart, too. This made seeing what

you wrote about a lot easier.

 

> This gives in the Tropical System ca. 28-29 Taurus rising with Moon 25

> Taurus. Sun Cancer of course. Stellium in 28-29 Gemini involv. Merc.,

> Venus and Uranus.

 

Here's what I got using your birth data with the Sidereal Zodiac:

 

First 05Tau02

Uranus 03Gem13

Venus 03Gem50 R

Mercury 04Gem28 R

Second 06Gem54

Sun 17Gem17

Third 28Gem03

Fourth 17Can01

Pluto 19Can32

Saturn 26Can27

Fifth 10Leo53

Mars 28Leo08

Neptune 16Vir14

Sixth 18Vir47

Vertex 04Lib02

MSNode 17Lib03

Seventh 05Sco02

Jupiter 27Sco50 R

Eighth 06Sag54

Ninth 28Sag03

Tenth 17Cap01

BlackMoon 03Aqu56

Eleventh 10Aqu53

Twelfth 18Pis47

MNNode 17Ari03

East Point 21Ari56

Moon 00Tau46

 

> How far off is the Tropical from the Sidereal now? How many degrees of

> zodiac. longitude? . . .

 

I occasionally post the Sidereal longitudes here; I'll forward the most

recent one (last night, for midnight Sunday EST) to you privately.

 

As of 12N EST, the northern hemisphere's Vernal Equinox point was at 05Pis16.

The Tropical-Sidereal discrepancy, or _ayanamsa_, is 24*44'.

 

> Any suggestions for books on the subject would be appreicated.

 

In addition to all the books available on Vedic astrology, you can also check

out AFA or ACS for books like Eshelman & Stanton's _The New Instant

Astrologer_ or Fagan & Firebrace's _The Sidereal Primer_.

 

Hope that helps,

Kevin/Baraka