further querry regarding a gesture+janeau

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Respected Bhai Jaan, According to atharavaveda; When a shishya went to gurkul, he took three pieces of wood as offering to the guru for the sacrificial fire of gurukul. after offering these three pieces, the guru kept the child in his ashram for three nights and then accepting him as a student put a janeau on him which agian had three threads. plus also gave him a pitambra cloth. this mention of three in the above written and ears in the previuos message drew my attention to the samabandh of ketu and brahspati. please help to find a concreate logic with referrance to these planets. folding hands is a usual practise of offering respect but the gesture of touching ears needs some valuable inputs from ur side. also please let me know what is the correct age for janeau ceremony/sanskar.

regards

kulbirbains. , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd wrote:>> Dear Kulbir bhai,> > This gesture is often made in a temple when one presents himself before > the deity. The gesture in the temple is normally touching the ears and > then folding the hands in sublimation.> The gesture of touching the ears is also noticed when some shishya > mentions the name of his Guru. You would notice it in musical concerts > very often when the singer would make a reference to his Guru.> > Basically the gesture means ' agar mujh se koi galti huyee ho to muaf > karen' it also means ' main apne guru ka naam le raha hun, agar unki > shaan mein koi gustakhi ho jaye to muafi chahooga' - > > [the gesture means that I should be forgiven if I have made any > mistake, it also means that I am going to mention the name of my Guru > and would pray to be forgiven if I say any thing that might not be upto > his reputation.]> > In the temple the same gesture is followed by folding of the hands, > which means Lord forgive me for anything wrong I had done, here and now > I surrender to you with my folded hands.> > Remember we reach the court of the Lord Deity without a warrant, police > or handcuffs. Through this gesture we present ourselves willingly in > the highest court of this world seeking forgiveness with folded hands [ > handcuffed]> > Regards> > Varun > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kulbirbains" > kulbirbains@ wrote:> >> > Dear Varun ji,> > > > it is customary in murshad shagird tradition that> > whenever a shagird visits the place of his murshad; even while> > remebering him, he lowers his head and touches his ears. some other> > communities also practise this gesture when visiting religious places.> > what could be the exact significance of this gesture.> > > > > > kulbirbains> >>

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Dear Kulbir bhai,

 

I am afraid I wouldn't be able to answer these. Some Sanskrit scholar

who has studied Hindu Shastra might be able to answer them well.

 

In our area the Yaggopaveet is done at the gae of 11 or 12 i.e. pre-

puberty age. I do not know the tradition in other parts of the

country.

 

Regards,

 

Varun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " kulbirbains "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

>

> Respected Bhai Jaan, According to atharavaveda; When a shishya went

to

> gurkul, he took three pieces of wood as offering to the guru for the

> sacrificial fire of gurukul. after offering these three pieces, the

guru

> kept the child in his ashram for three nights and then accepting

him as

> a student put a janeau on him which agian had three threads. plus

also

> gave him a pitambra cloth. this mention of three in the above

written

> and ears in the previuos message drew my attention to the samabandh

of

> ketu and brahspati. please help to find a concreate logic with

> referrance to these planets. folding hands is a usual practise of

> offering respect but the gesture of touching ears needs some

valuable

> inputs from ur side. also please let me know what is the correct

age

> for janeau ceremony/sanskar.

>

> regards

>

> kulbirbains.

> , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bhai,

> >

> > This gesture is often made in a temple when one presents himself

> before

> > the deity. The gesture in the temple is normally touching the

ears and

> > then folding the hands in sublimation.

> > The gesture of touching the ears is also noticed when some shishya

> > mentions the name of his Guru. You would notice it in musical

concerts

> > very often when the singer would make a reference to his Guru.

> >

> > Basically the gesture means ' agar mujh se koi galti huyee ho to

muaf

> > karen' it also means ' main apne guru ka naam le raha hun, agar

unki

> > shaan mein koi gustakhi ho jaye to muafi chahooga' -

> >

> > [the gesture means that I should be forgiven if I have made any

> > mistake, it also means that I am going to mention the name of my

Guru

> > and would pray to be forgiven if I say any thing that might not be

> upto

> > his reputation.]

> >

> > In the temple the same gesture is followed by folding of the

hands,

> > which means Lord forgive me for anything wrong I had done, here

and

> now

> > I surrender to you with my folded hands.

> >

> > Remember we reach the court of the Lord Deity without a warrant,

> police

> > or handcuffs. Through this gesture we present ourselves willingly

in

> > the highest court of this world seeking forgiveness with folded

hands

> [

> > handcuffed]

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Varun

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " kulbirbains "

> > kulbirbains@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Varun ji,

> > >

> > > it is customary in murshad shagird tradition that

> > > whenever a shagird visits the place of his murshad; even while

> > > remebering him, he lowers his head and touches his ears. some

other

> > > communities also practise this gesture when visiting religious

> places.

> > > what could be the exact significance of this gesture.

> > >

> > >

> > > kulbirbains

> > >

> >

>