Bush and 2004

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At 12:29 PM 6/18/04 -0500, Cynthia wrote:

 

I use the 2:19am of 7-4-1776 and put on my website on

>9-11th that the hit would come that week. I know, I'm an " unknown " but it

>was out there for all to read. Using this chart I also correctly got w's

>nomination and election when others were sure he would lose.

 

Cynthia,

 

I humbly bow to your uncanny predictive ability. I haven't been blessed

with such an intuitive Moon. Now what do you have to say about the coming

election this year and the fate of our current president?

 

>>Also, the Kelleher chart doesn't show the great fear and grief that would

follow like a transiting Saturn on the Moon of the other chart suggests.

 

So we're looking at (6:30) Mars/Ketu on the natal ascendant, in close

sextile to the USA Moon. (The god Mars was accompanied by beings known as

'Fear' and 'Panic.') The Mars sextile is only 20 minutes from being exact.

Then with Cynthia's chart we have transiting Saturn on natal Moon. (I don't

know the orb.) I'd say at best it's a toss up. Mars/Ketu can indicate great

shock and grief,and these planets *do* closely aspect the 6:30 Moon, plus

they're on the natal ascendant.

 

Cynthia, you may not have used solar return charts? These are the

foundation of the western sidereal school. India uses the Varshaphal chart,

but mostly India talks about the dasa periods. In the western sidereal

tradition, any important transit has to relate to one of the chart angles.

 

>Likewise, when JFK was assasinated, Saturn was on the Moon of the Uranus

ASC chart.

 

We do have a transting Moon-Saturn conjunction with the Moon being right on

natal Ketu. Transiting Rahu is also on natal Sun. These transits would be

the same in both charts. Anny on this list has noticed that the nodes

relate to events that affect many people. But you are right--there is no

transit of Saturn to the natal 6:30 USA Moon.

 

>...I would expect that a big transit to the Moon in a nations chart would

>reflect big emotions: Saturn equals sorrow. Where is that in the Kelleher

>chart?

 

Actually (in my opinion) the transit of Saturn in its own sign to the Moon

wouldn't necessarily be negative. The nodes can bring powerful emotions.

 

Since the Moon is the planet that changes dramatically from chart to

>chart, it made sense to me to watch that Moon for insight.

 

Yes, it would be a good research project to check out transits to the natal

Moon for various events. But the chart as a whole has to be considered and

(according to Western siderealists) the angles have to be involved for the

key transits.

 

But...shining like a brilliant light beyond any mathematics: the ability to

predict, no matter from what charts!

 

Therese