Guest guest Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 > > Bradley answers his own statement with a statistical comeback, in part: > > *** " Using the synetic value for the 13 greatest earthquakes that occurred > in the world since 1900, Saturn is within two degrees of conjunction or > square the meridian of the epicenters seven times oftener than " chance " > would tend to allow. " *** > > Read this statement carefully: " ...seven times oftener than `chance would > tend to allow'... " > > Only seven times more often? Shouldn't **every** major earthquake have a > powerful signature for its locale, especially if loss of life is extreme?? > IF the cyclic charts under study are valid.... > > Also 13 is too small a number to use for good statistical analysis. > > Bradley is giving us a hint here of how he determined the planetary > positions for rainfall. Using statistical analysis, the relevant planets > were in expected positions **more often than chance.** Unfortunately we > don't have the details of `expected positions' for Bradley's research nor > how he determined these positions. ------------------------ Therese, I think you are under-cutting Bradley's statistical presentation or trying to relegate it to the same category as " lying with statistics " that we are seeing in political presentations. If you look at Gary Duncan's article in the Ayanamsa file, you'll see that they (Duncan and Bradley) used legitimate methods. This quotation from the Rainfall2 file shows just how " significant " some of the statistics are: " The meridional distance of Jupiter at the CAPLUNAR INGRESS moments preceding the 12 dates of heaviest rainfall at each of thousands of rain-recording stations strewn across the nation--a total of 49,576 precipitation maxima--are calculated and plotted as running sums. Not only does Jupiter prefer the upper-culminating region, but a striking 90 degree wave in its distribution exists! Any student of astrology can recognize the pattern; the peaks are in the angular-cusp regions basic in any horoscope. Jupiter plays out his classical Pluvius role when near the Ascendant, Nadir and Descendant as well. When the quadrants are superposed, with exacting probabilities taken account of, the violation of " normalcy " reaches the jarring figure of close to 15 standard deviations. Three SD's would do, and four would suffice to establish the effect as a fact of nature, as an existing anomaly. To express 15 standard deviations as odds against it all being coincidental would be a rather silly exercise in writing strings of zeroes; in fact, the probability function hasn't even been calculated for levels beyond the sixth or seventh SD. As one noted mathematician stated openly at a professional seminar convened to discuss this very matter. 'Ratios this size mean that it is not a statistical fact we are dealing with, but a physical law.' " I would say that using 45,576 instances is a sufficiently large sample, wouldn't you? Juan: In conversations with Jim Eshelman (who carried on extensive correspondence with Bradley and with Gary Duncan) I recall his saying that Bradley used the " Standard " Q2 progression rate with the solar and lunar ingresses. Duncan's article does indicate that Bradley was using geocentric rather than geographic terrestrial latitudes, though, which could introduce error with horizon contacts. I also am assuming that bodily hits were used, though I'm not certain of that. In the course of a lunar month, or even a solar year, there won't be _much_ difference between the timings of angular quotidian hits using either mean Q1 or Q2 rates. But there is a difference between using mean and apparent rates. I don't know if there is any software that will calculate apparent rates with accuracy. Most will do mean Q1 or Q2 with little problem. This, of course, makes comparison of rates more difficult. Ideally, I would like to be able to settle on one rate as the " correct " one. As an illustration of the quotidian rates and their angles, here are two recent earthquakes with three different sets of angles. CapSolar 2003 1/15/2003 8:46:32 UT progressed to: Paso Robles, CA 35N37' 36 " 120W41' 24 " Quake 12/22/2003 11:15:56 AM PST Mean Q1 LST 6:47: 27 MC 16 Gem 08 ASC 15 Vir 05 Mean Q2 LST 6:51: 12 MC 17 Gem 00 ASC 15 Vir 51 App. Q1 LST 6:37:48 MC 13 Gem 53 ASC 13 Vir 04 Transit Saturn 15 Gem 43 R Tr Saturn culminates 6:45:28 Bam, Iran 29N06 58E21 Quake 12/26/2003 5:26:52 AM IT (-3:30) Mean Q1 LST 18:56:32 MC 18 Sag 14 ASC 25 Pis 18 Mean Q2 LST 19:00:19 MC 19 Sag 06 ASC 26 Pis 36 App. Q1 LST 18:47:30 MC 16 Sag 08 ASC 22 Pis 29 Transit Saturn 15 Gem 27R anti-culminates 18:44:20 I have used the populated areas where lives were lost rather than epicenters for the quakes. As you can see, even late in the period covered by the ingress, the divergence is not great. Sidereally yours, Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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