Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Hi Steve, The " Transit of Venus " as the astronomers refer to it, occurs June 8 at 23 Taurus in the first house for Washington, DC...Pluto opposite and Neptune on the degree of the MC Dark*Star Steven Stuckey wrote: > make 6/11 the next major event-- after all, 3/11+6/11=9/11. > The last total Solar Eclipse on Nov 23, '03 for Washington has 26 Taurus > rising, with Pluto closely setting and Uranus culminating (within 1 > deg). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Steve Tasty morsels indeed. On the whole numerological angle, I would be hestitant about reading too much into 6/11. As neat as it seems, the real significance of the Madrid bombing on 3/11 is that it occurred 911 days after Sept 11. Probably it was both facts combined that led the Illuminati (oops!), the CIA, I mean, (oops again!), Al Qaeda to choose that day. So I don't think June 11 as that kind of two level significance. A conspiracy radio show I listened to made the point that the 1000th day after 9/11 might be used as a target. This is June 7th or so. I don't buy this, but I guess it's part of mix. Who knows what those nerds in Arlington are thinking? A look at the other key cabinet members shows major league turmoil around the late May/early June date. Check out Rumsfeld, Powell, even Bush Sr. on this. Cheney's chart is also activated although I would argue that it's good some favourable power. His Jp-Sat conj at 14/15 Aries will be aspect by Jupiter and Rahu at that time and combined some other things may be interpreted as getting the top job or at very least, increasing his status and profile. This might be due to an emergency situation in which he assumes a leading role and not necessarily because Bush dies. So I'm not saying I'm predicting Bush's death here but it is a viable possibility worth investigating. The 2001 inauguration chart is well worth a look as well. That May 4 LE falls exactly on the 7th cusp of the chart at 20Li. So that could mean a number of things. Another factoid to bear in mind is that the Neptune station of May 17 is within one degree of the equal 10th house cusp and less than one degree away from 6L Mercury. So it doesn't require too much imagination to spin the tale that the President may become gravely ill at that time. The inauguration chart points to an event occurring when transit Mars is close to 20 degrees of Gemini, since it will be aspecting the both eclipse point and the equal house cusps of the chart -- most portentously perhaps, the 10th cusp of leadership with its malefic 8th house aspect. It will also aspect the 6th house of health, however. Note that this Mars will be conjunct natal Rahu 21 Gemini at the same time. So on the time question, I would also reserve a place in my end-of-the-world countdown for May 29/30. The 20 Gemini placement is familiar because it is where Bush's natal Sun is, so that's another marker for violence or Mars-like troubles occurring on or near that date. Another tidbit: the inauguration chart moves into Saturn bhuktie on May 25th using Krishnamurti ayanamsha. Saturn is in fair shape in the natal chart although being in the first degree of Taurus is a weakening. Where you really see problems is in some of the varga charts. Look at D10 for status and perhaps for leadership. Saturn 2Cp58 is precisely conjunct Neptune 2Cp43. Maybe better keep George away from the preztels, after all. Sorry, I seem to have rambled on at some length here. So if I could get decent odds on a presidential death, I would slap down a sawbuck for the heck of it, but I still wouldn't predict it yet. But it's the same type of process in which risk probability is assessed and action taken to maximize optimality (or profit). Actually, Ladbrokes in the UK may actually have odds on this question, in which case, I really ought to make a call. A wager on a terror attack in the US at this time would obviously be a worthy enterprise as well, assuming the odds were favourable and hence the rate of return high. I can only dream of hitting the daily double: a general bioterror attack that gets Bush as well. Chris ps Mr Natural says -- " the whole universe is completely insane! " pps sorry for all the Vedic positions and Vedic terminology. I know this is a Fagan list, but the Faganites seem to have gone into hibernation. So I'm taking liberties... - " Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara Sunday, March 28, 2004 2:17 PM 6/11 Bush etc. > Dear Therese, Dark Star, Christopher and Bettina et all, > > > With tSaturn approaching my natal Moon and Mars about to square my > natal Saturn, perhaps I can work out some of my karma by adding a few > morsels of misery to what appears to already be a very festive spread. > > I happened quite by accident on the 6/11 idea while looking at George > W's various charts--now wouldn't it just be the absolute sickest > humor/superstition on the part of the Al Queida (or is it the CIA?) to > make 6/11 the next major event-- after all, 3/11+6/11=9/11. > > It seems to me that the event will occur before W's next solar return > and may be triggered (along with many other things) by the simple > transit of the Sun coming to about 26 Taurus (Fagan). Part of my > thinking here (for an event prior to the next solar) is the transiting > Saturn making exact conjunction to the natal Sun sitting in the current > SR 6th house. > > The last total Solar Eclipse on Nov 23, '03 for Washington has 26 Taurus > rising, with Pluto closely setting and Uranus culminating (within 1 > deg). The next Solar Eclipse (partial) for D.C. will occur on April 19, > '04 and gives 27 Taurus rising. This eclipse has a Mars/Pluto opposition > right across the Asc/Dsc while Uranus culminates. > W's natal Uranus/Node conjunction occurs at 25/26 Taurus. His solar arc > MC for 6/11 is 25Tau46 and just minutes from this natal midpoint. > Bush's regular lunar return of May 30, '04 for birthplace (New Haven) > has 23 Taurus rising while his quarti lunar for June 11, '04 for > residence (Crawford) has 22 Scorpio rising. > George W has a demi-anlunar chart also that sets up on June 11 with > Mars/Saturn a few degrees off the MC and square to the Asc. > Bush Senior has a quarti anlunar setting up the same day (for > birthplace) with the exact same configuration rising. > Dick Cheney pulls in almost identical angles for his Jan 31, 04 SR and > June 9, '04 LR.(birthplace). > > Another interesting chart is the total Lunar Eclipse that occurs on May > 4, '04 and features the Mars/Saturn conjunction straddling the MC for > Washington (their midpoint just 2' off the MC). The chart shows the Sun > at degree of exaltation, 19 Aries, (sorry to all Vedic pundits who exalt > at 10 Aries) eclipsed in the 8th house. > > Another promising chart perhaps is the upcoming New Moon of Sept 14, '04 > that sports an exact conjunction of Sun/Moon/Mars at 27 Leo squaring > Pluto at 24 Scorpio. This falls powerfully across the natal chart of > John Kerry. > > What does it all mean Mr Natural??? > > Steve > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Hey Dark, Can you recollect any events from previoius " transits " of Venus? Steve Dark Star wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > The " Transit of Venus " as the astronomers refer to it, occurs June 8 > at 23 > Taurus in the first house for Washington, DC...Pluto opposite and > Neptune on > the degree of the MC > > Dark*Star > > > Steven Stuckey wrote: > > > make 6/11 the next major event-- after all, 3/11+6/11=9/11. > > The last total Solar Eclipse on Nov 23, '03 for Washington has 26 > Taurus > > rising, with Pluto closely setting and Uranus culminating (within 1 > > deg). > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > > > ------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Christopher Kevill wrote: > > On the whole numerological angle, I would be hestitant about reading > too > much into 6/11. Hi Chris, I don't read much into the 6/11 date per se, outside of it's coincidence with actual astrological hits. Besides, are you sure the Al Queda can count to 911? > Check out Rumsfeld, Powell, even Bush Sr. on > this. Rumsfeld shares nearly the same angles/planets in his next solar as George W.(for birthplace). It appears they have similar karmic interests next year..probably spending most of their time in big plans to benefit humanity at large.......I'm anxiously awaiting my check in the mail. Rumsfelds anlunar and quarti-anlunar (based on current solar return) bring the Mars/Saturn conjunction closely to angles on June2, and June 9. June 11 places his natal Sun at the degree of Mars/Saturn midpoint. > > > The inauguration chart points to an event occurring when transit Mars > is > close to 20 degrees of Gemini, I see your point here, thanks. Additionally, the current solar return of the inauguration brings 19 Sag to the ascendant. Saturn of course is closely approaching this point by opposition near mid month in June and crossing over it's station point from last October, while Neptune and Mercury are semi-sextie and quincunx this point at the same time. Mars on the other hand, around mid June, moves into opposition inauguration MC at 1 Cap, opposite inauguration SR Moon at 0 Cap, square Bush natal MC at 0 Aries and quincunx Cheney solar return ascendant at 0 Aquarius. > > The 20 Gemini placement is familiar because it is where Bush's natal > Sun is, > so that's another marker for violence or Mars-like troubles occurring > on or > near that date. Agreed, but Saturn could be a heavy hitter here also, a bit later in the month. > > > Another tidbit: the inauguration chart moves into Saturn bhuktie on > May > 25th using Krishnamurti ayanamsha. Setting aside the ayanamsa question, you already know my thoughts on Vimshottari dasa i.e., I don't give too much attention to these results despite the fact that intuition plays a big role in my own astrological readings. :>)) If someone could explain how the comet Ketu came to head up Aswini, which miraculously came to coincide with 0 Aries, based on a zodiac with a starting point of 26 Aries 40, then I might be persuaded to reconsider. > Where > you really see problems is in some of the varga charts. Look at D10 > for > status and perhaps for leadership. Saturn 2Cp58 is precisely conjunct > > Neptune 2Cp43. Maybe better keep George away from the preztels, after > all. I'll check this out, ie the D10. Another interesting find, while going over these various charts, is the navamsa chart of the Solar Eclipse of Nov 23, '03 for Washington. The Asc, Sun and Moon all in the same degree--27 Leo (Fagan) Interestingly, the New Moon of Sept 14, '04 occurs with Sun, Moon and Mars at the same degree, 27 Leo. A three mile wide asteroid will make a near pass at the end of Sept--at least one person, David Booth, recently interviewed on Coast to Coast, has suggested (from a repetitive dream) that this fly-by will be enough to activate the super volcano that is overdue to blow at Yellowstone--that should be enough to take our minds off of the dreadful antics of petty tyrants for at least a few years (during the ensuing volcanic winter). > > ps Mr Natural says -- " the whole universe is completely insane! " Well, actually Mr. Natural used to say, in all of his infinite wisdom, " It don't mean shit son........... " Steve > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 > Rumsfeld shares nearly the same angles/planets in his next solar as > George W.(for birthplace). It appears they have similar karmic > interests next year..probably spending most of their time in big plans > to benefit humanity at large.......I'm anxiously awaiting my check in > the mail. > Rumsfelds anlunar and quarti-anlunar (based on current solar return) > bring the Mars/Saturn conjunction closely to angles on June2, and June > 9. June 11 places his natal Sun at the degree of Mars/Saturn midpoint. Right -- will look at this. > > > > > > > The inauguration chart points to an event occurring when transit Mars > > is > > close to 20 degrees of Gemini, > > I see your point here, thanks. Additionally, the current solar return of > the inauguration brings 19 Sag to the ascendant. Saturn of course is > closely approaching this point by opposition near mid month in June and > crossing over it's station point from last October, while Neptune and > Mercury are semi-sextie and quincunx this point at the same time. > Mars on the other hand, around mid June, moves into opposition > inauguration MC at 1 Cap, opposite inauguration SR Moon at 0 Cap, > square Bush natal MC at 0 Aries and quincunx Cheney solar return > ascendant at 0 Aquarius. > > > > > The 20 Gemini placement is familiar because it is where Bush's natal > > Sun is, > > so that's another marker for violence or Mars-like troubles occurring > > on or > > near that date. > > Agreed, but Saturn could be a heavy hitter here also, a bit later in the > month. Yes, I think Saturn over 20 Gemini could actually be the trigger as well in late June. Another factoid: the LA incorporation chart from 1850 has Mars at 17 Gemini right on the conjunction. As they used to say in Control, " sorry about that, chief. " > > > > > > > Another tidbit: the inauguration chart moves into Saturn bhuktie on > > May > > 25th using Krishnamurti ayanamsha. > > Setting aside the ayanamsa question, you already know my thoughts on > Vimshottari dasa i.e., I don't give too much attention to these results > despite the fact that intuition plays a big role in my own astrological > readings. :>)) > If someone could explain how the comet Ketu came to head up Aswini, > which miraculously came to coincide with 0 Aries, based on a zodiac with > a starting point of 26 Aries 40, then I might be persuaded to > reconsider. If you want logic, why not study physics? > > > Where > > you really see problems is in some of the varga charts. Look at D10 > > for > > status and perhaps for leadership. Saturn 2Cp58 is precisely conjunct > > > > Neptune 2Cp43. Maybe better keep George away from the preztels, after > > all. > > I'll check this out, ie the D10. Another interesting find, while going > over these various charts, is the navamsa chart of the Solar Eclipse of > Nov 23, '03 for Washington. The Asc, Sun and Moon all in the same > degree--27 Leo (Fagan) > Interestingly, the New Moon of Sept 14, '04 occurs with Sun, Moon and > Mars at the same degree, 27 Leo. > A three mile wide asteroid will make a near pass at the end of Sept--at > least one person, David Booth, recently interviewed on Coast to Coast, > has suggested (from a repetitive dream) that this fly-by will be enough > to activate the super volcano that is overdue to blow at > Yellowstone--that should be enough to take our minds off of the dreadful > antics of petty tyrants for at least a few years (during the ensuing > volcanic winter). > > I'm not sure which source of information to take more seriously: 'Coast' or an astrology mailing list! > > > > ps Mr Natural says -- " the whole universe is completely insane! " > > Well, actually Mr. Natural used to say, in all of his infinite wisdom, " > It don't mean shit son........... " > > Thanks, pop. I recalled my quote from an actual Mr N comic also, although I can't cite the issue. Check out the R Crumb documentary when you get the chance -- called " Crumb " . Twisted, weird, and brilliant. Probably dont' have that a Blockbuster either... Chris > Steve > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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