Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Juan-Oh, This is not my " war chart. " I did not say that it was. I merely stated that the May 15 chart was a better candidate for a " war chart " becuase it was on that day that the Continental Congress declared themselves to be so involved in one. The USA formally declared a war against the British in 1812, and this was the first time the USA that we now live under declared war against another soverign state. The date that President Monroe signed the War Order was June 18, 1812. I do not have a time for this, but I suspect it is 1:00 PM EST when Mars was culminating and Mars' N. Node was ascending. Seeing as the President is the Commander in Chief, he has final say over whether we go to war or not. The President has taken our military into battle hundreds of times, but only 5 of those times did he get an official " Declaration of War " from the Congress. Therefore, the chart for the Presidency is the best to judge the timings of wars. This includes the first chart for the Presidency, and then the current President's inauguration chart. Both of these lit up like a christmas tree on 9-11. I will say that there are many contacts between the 1775 and 1812 charts, which makes sense. If we do a biwheel of the Washington 1789 chart and the moment that Bush signed Resolution 114 (Oct 16, 2002, 11:34 AM), we see that there are a multitude of beneficial contacts, mostly with Mars and Jupiter. Also, the ASC of the 2002 chart is on the Sun/Moon midpoint of the 1789 chart, the importance of which should be obvious. The May 15 1775 chart up against the Resolution 114 chart is also rather active with contacts. The rest of your puerile and sidesplittingly hilarious remarks are again a rather less than mediocre. Best, Ed K , " jivio <jivio> " <jivio> wrote: > Sorry....Forgot to include the " Subject " ... Carry on.... > > , " jivio <jivio> " > <jivio> wrote: > > The Continental Congress declared themselves in a state of defense > on > > May 15, 1775. This is the true war chart, if indeed there is one. > > So sez crumpo in a previous post.... > > > > In the spirit suggested to me by my bud Terese(not to be mistaken > for > > muthua Teresa BTW). I felt compelled to implore crumpo to grace us > > with his " opinion " regarding the veracity of the USA " crumpo " War > > Chart. > > > > Since I dare not AssUme that the data satisfies crumpo, I will > wait, > > ever so patiently for his charming wit to adorne another post in > > response to my query. > > > > I looked at this date in history and erected(tell me crumpo, is > that > > appropriate language?) a chart for 12 noon in Philadelphia on the > day > > previously mentioned. > > > > It is a very interesting chart with Mars and the North Node(Luna) > > conjunct the ascendent. The relationship between the Ascendent, > Moon, > > MC, Jupiter and Chiron(yes, I said Chiron) are worth noting for > > delineation purposes. Pluto appears to be so effective within this > > environment that you know its influence as a force will have to be > > reckoned with. I commend crumpo for his suggestion to suggest this > as > > a " War " chart. > > > > We have also the USA " Boyd " War chart, of July 6th 1775 with a time > > given as 11:00:40 am, Philadelphia. > > > > Let us partake in the evaluation of these charts and see if they > > compliment each other. Possibly one is more significant than the > > other. In all fairness it is important to review the documents that > > these " charts " are predicated on. To determine if there exists a > > parallel in delineation with what they express within the language > > and the psychology of the day. Most importantly if one of > > these " charts " stand as the USA " WAR " Chart. First let us confirm > > and agree on their validity/usefulness and then proceed to > determine > > if sidereal or tropical or biocosmic techniques formulate a " finer " > > reasoning or rationale. > > > > Jivio > > PS: make haste not waste crumpo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 At 12:32 PM 1/17/03 -0000, EdK wrote: >Juan-Oh, > >This is not my " war chart. " I did not say that it was. I merely >stated that the May 15 chart was a better candidate for a " war chart " >becuase it was on that day that the Continental Congress declared >themselves to be so involved in one. > >The USA formally declared a war against the British in 1812, and this >was the first time the USA that we now live under declared war >against another soverign state. The date that President Monroe >signed the War Order was June 18, 1812. I do not have a time for >this, but I suspect it is 1:00 PM EST when Mars was culminating and >Mars' N. Node was ascending. >Seeing as the President is the Commander in Chief, he has final say >over whether we go to war or not. The President has taken our >military into battle hundreds of times, but only 5 of those times did >he get an official " Declaration of War " from the Congress. > >Therefore, the chart for the Presidency is the best to judge the >timings of wars. This includes the first chart for the Presidency, >and then the current President's inauguration chart. Both of these >lit up like a christmas tree on 9-11...and etc.>>> ---------end of quote--------- Amen!! Thank you, Ed! Now I'm checking 'outta here for awhile, maybe permanently. Terese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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