Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 This is from the AstroDatabank discussion on John Kerry: http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Feedback.asp?ChartID=39776 Thor Thorgeirsson 2/19/2004 1 John Kerry´s chart was initially cast based on the 7:10AM time circulating on the net. At that time, a paradox was noted that the 12 Scorpio rising (sidereal) did not explain his tall height. However, a yoga for political power was evident. The chart was recently rectified using the Systems Approach to Vedic Astrology (SA) on the discussion group SAMVA, as propounded by of Guargon, India. The time identified as explaining John Kerry´s tall size was 8:02 AM, moving the Sun within the most effective point (MEP) of the ascending degree of 23 Scorpio. I enclose the discussion in case it is of interest to other astrologers. The salient facts of the discussion on SAMVA are: 1. Reading of 12 Scorpio rising chart based on time of 7:10 AM chart circulated on internet by Thor. Paradox of height noted for Scorpio rising (Jan 16, 2004 8:24 pm) 2. Sun´s influence in Ascendant suggested by David Hawthorne as explanation for tall height (Msg. 5782, Feb 4, 2004 8:36 pm) 3. Sun´s placement in MEP of ascendant suggested and 8:02 AM time suggested by Thor Thorgeirsson as explanation for his height (Msg. 5783, Feb 4, 2004 10:50 pm) 4. presents the Rule for Tallness (Msg. 5784, Feb 4, 2004 11:06 pm) I could also note that the prediction made on 18 January (Msg. 5669) that John Kerry would beat the other Democratic candidates was based on the 10L [10th lord] Sun in 1H [1st house] in mutual aspect to the exalted 9L Moon in 7H aspect -- the royal planets ruling powerful houses in prominent placements -- in the 12 Scorpio rising chart, and taking into consideration the strength (weaknesses) of the other candidates charts. Kerry´s chart was considered strongest. The prediction he would win the Presidency was made in Msg 5777 on 4 February at 7:21 am was based on this chart as well and the chart of George Bush. That prediction was confirmed based on the rectified chart for John Kerry, as the chart only became stronger with the later degree. For further information: SAMVA/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Therese... Good Work... Great Info... The rectification process comes up short and does not satisfy my parameters for a viable birth time. One needs to look at events in ones life instead of geting stuck on the man's height. Hadn't these people ever heard of the role that genetics plays in this? Thank you again... Juan --- Therese Hamilton <eastwest wrote: > This is from the AstroDatabank discussion on John > Kerry: > > http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Feedback.asp?ChartID=39776 > > Thor Thorgeirsson 2/19/2004 > 1 John Kerry´s chart was initially cast based on the > 7:10AM time > circulating on the net. At that time, a paradox was > noted that the 12 > Scorpio rising (sidereal) did not explain his tall > height. However, a yoga > for political power was evident. > > The chart was recently rectified using the Systems > Approach to Vedic > Astrology (SA) on the discussion group SAMVA, > as propounded by > of Guargon, India. > > The time identified as explaining John Kerry´s tall > size was 8:02 AM, > moving the Sun within the most effective point (MEP) > of the ascending > degree of 23 Scorpio. I enclose the discussion in > case it is of interest to > other astrologers. > > The salient facts of the discussion on SAMVA are: > > 1. Reading of 12 Scorpio rising chart based on time > of 7:10 AM chart > circulated on internet by Thor. Paradox of height > noted for Scorpio rising > (Jan 16, 2004 8:24 pm) > > 2. Sun´s influence in Ascendant suggested by David > Hawthorne as explanation > for tall height (Msg. 5782, Feb 4, 2004 8:36 pm) > > 3. Sun´s placement in MEP of ascendant suggested and > 8:02 AM time suggested > by Thor Thorgeirsson as explanation for his height > (Msg. 5783, Feb 4, 2004 > 10:50 pm) > > 4. presents the Rule for Tallness > (Msg. 5784, Feb 4, > 2004 11:06 pm) > > I could also note that the prediction made on 18 > January (Msg. 5669) that > John Kerry would beat the other Democratic > candidates was based on the 10L > [10th lord] Sun in 1H [1st house] in mutual aspect > to the exalted 9L Moon > in 7H aspect -- the royal planets ruling powerful > houses in prominent > placements -- in the 12 Scorpio rising chart, and > taking into consideration > the strength (weaknesses) of the other candidates > charts. Kerry´s chart was > considered strongest. > > The prediction he would win the Presidency was made > in Msg 5777 on 4 > February at 7:21 am was based on this chart as well > and the chart of George > Bush. That prediction was confirmed based on the > rectified chart for John > Kerry, as the chart only became stronger with the > later degree. > > For further information: > SAMVA/ > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close > to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: > - > Un: > - > List owner: > -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Therese Yes, I read this yesterday from ADB. More pearls of wisdom from the fantasy world of Systems Approach. A cursory investigation of basketball players charts tells you that this " tallness principle " comes up short. There is a grain of truth to it of course but it is applied crudely and simplistically. Chris - " Therese Hamilton " <eastwest Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:46 PM Kerry--Of Interest This is from the AstroDatabank discussion on John Kerry: http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/Feedback.asp?ChartID=39776 Thor Thorgeirsson 2/19/2004 1 John Kerry´s chart was initially cast based on the 7:10AM time circulating on the net. At that time, a paradox was noted that the 12 Scorpio rising (sidereal) did not explain his tall height. However, a yoga for political power was evident. The chart was recently rectified using the Systems Approach to Vedic Astrology (SA) on the discussion group SAMVA, as propounded by of Guargon, India. The time identified as explaining John Kerry´s tall size was 8:02 AM, moving the Sun within the most effective point (MEP) of the ascending degree of 23 Scorpio. I enclose the discussion in case it is of interest to other astrologers. The salient facts of the discussion on SAMVA are: 1. Reading of 12 Scorpio rising chart based on time of 7:10 AM chart circulated on internet by Thor. Paradox of height noted for Scorpio rising (Jan 16, 2004 8:24 pm) 2. Sun´s influence in Ascendant suggested by David Hawthorne as explanation for tall height (Msg. 5782, Feb 4, 2004 8:36 pm) 3. Sun´s placement in MEP of ascendant suggested and 8:02 AM time suggested by Thor Thorgeirsson as explanation for his height (Msg. 5783, Feb 4, 2004 10:50 pm) 4. presents the Rule for Tallness (Msg. 5784, Feb 4, 2004 11:06 pm) I could also note that the prediction made on 18 January (Msg. 5669) that John Kerry would beat the other Democratic candidates was based on the 10L [10th lord] Sun in 1H [1st house] in mutual aspect to the exalted 9L Moon in 7H aspect -- the royal planets ruling powerful houses in prominent placements -- in the 12 Scorpio rising chart, and taking into consideration the strength (weaknesses) of the other candidates charts. Kerry´s chart was considered strongest. The prediction he would win the Presidency was made in Msg 5777 on 4 February at 7:21 am was based on this chart as well and the chart of George Bush. That prediction was confirmed based on the rectified chart for John Kerry, as the chart only became stronger with the later degree. For further information: SAMVA/ " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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