AS ELECTION DAY NOV 2ND APPROACHES .................. THE USA BIRTH CHART FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE

October 1, 2004

Hello Everybody ... A funny thing happened to me on the way to discovering the

superiority of Sidereal Astrology: When I was still trying to grasp the

fundamentals of Natal Astrology, I naturally considered its Mundane

implications; for example, in trying to characterize the U.S. Federal

Government, I couldn't avoid the image of the lion. I've long concluded that

whatever expert Mundane astrologers might argue regarding the birth

characteristics of the U.S. Government, I just can't but think to myself ,Sun

Sign Leo, every time. I confess this now by way of prefacing why my own

researches have led me to the birth dates I wish now to set out before you for

consideration. I will just say now in self-defense that I am not looking for

converts, nor do I wish to encourage those of you who hold strong views in this

regard to try and win me over. I've been through the AstroDataLab.com's

interminable dialogue on the true horoscope of the USA. Been there; done that.

What I offer here and in

the attached document is the result of a thought process primarily based on

solid " historical " investigations of reputable scholars and my own on-going

investigations in Astro-numerology.

BIRTH DATE: THE AMERICAN " NATION STATE "

JULY 02nd, 1788 @ 16:10 hrs L.M.T. in New York City. (The day the

CONSTITUTION was put in formal operation. If one thinks, as does Dane Rudhyar,

that the correct date is June 21, 1788; think again). Scorpio Rising; Sun &

Sirius @ 19 deg of Sideral Gemini. Sun 8th House

BIRTH DATE: THE AMERICAN " FEDERAL GOVERNMENT "

SEPT 13th, 1788 @ 11:40 hrs L.M.T in New York City. (The day the Federal

Government's establishment was ratified. Yes, the March 4, 1789 start date was

determined on this day too). Scorpio Rising; Sun in the 10th House @ 29 deg

Sideral Leo.

P.S. One must clearly distinguish THE STATE, an 8th House phenomenon, from THE

GOVERNMENT, a 10th House phenomenon. Sadly, the only published recognition by an

astrologer of this distinction I have thus far found is in Sepharial's MANUAL OF

ASTROLOGY; Dane Rudhyar is clueless in this matter. For the STATE/GOVERNMENT

distinction in constitutional theory, see John W. Burgess' many books. I have

the references for those who request.).

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