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Hi to All and thanks to Therese for this link here. I have been

studying Western for over thirty years and recently decided to learn

as much as I can about Jyotish. This is where I found Therese's

link here. For many years I have been using sidereal astro for solar

return charts with some success; using precession corrected time, so

already have an interest in sidereal astrology and it makes sense to

me. Just have to wrap my brain around it now.

 

Needless to say I am fascinated and eager to learn, and look forward

to reading and reading and reading early postings onward, warm

wishes, Morgana

 

, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest@s...> wrote:

> At 01:20 AM 5/7/04 -0700, Steve wrote:

> >Yes of course no scholar would, however one picture may be worth a

> >thousand words and I would be interested in a number of opinions

of this

> >picture--I intend to pursue this as time permits.

>

> Good! Keep us posted.

>

> >Scholars, like the rest of us in this muddled world are limited by

> >their senses. Waiting with baited breath for the approval of

scholars is

> >not my approach--although I do try to keep up somewhat with the

> >knowledge of the past.

>

> No, you don't have it right! I'm not waiting for any scholarly

approval.

> I'm only talking about the study and translations of the ancient

texts,

> which they know how to do and we don't. (Now this is what I call a

> lunar-Neptune type mix-up. I'm talking about the act of translation

and you

> jump to something called 'approval' of your work. Not the same

thing.)

>

> >I'm afraid I can't wait on scholarship when a client needs a quick

> >answer to a pressing question.

>

> Again, this has nothing to do with translation and math. It doesn't

matter

> what ayanamsa you're using when working with a client, at least as

long as

> you don't use the navamsa chart to determine character.

>

> >And this makes me open up to the beauty and oft undefinable

quality of

> >astrology.

>

> Moon-Neptune for sure! Astrology has two sides: the strictly

technical (let

> the math people figure it all out) and the actual application when

working

> with human beings which requires a lot of intutition. (Moon-

Neptune?)

>

> >We can only act according to our nature in these matters, and

obviuosly

> >no one, not even our scholars, are always right.

>

> Let's put it this way: One of those scholars wouldn't have the

slightest

> idea how to read a contemporary horoscope and work with clients.

And you

> wouldn't have the slightest idea how to translate ancient Babylonian

> tablets. These are separate fields, and respect is due to each

field of

> work/study.

>

> We turn to the experts when we don't know what we're talking about.

We're

> actually ahead of the scholars because they'll never be able to

understand

> astrology-as-intuition, but we can understand the figures they put

on paper.

>

> Wow!! What a lunar post you wrote! Textbook perfect!

>

> Happy Friday,

> Therese

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Hi Morgana! Nice to see you here. Bettina hangs out here sometimes. This

list was founded as an information source for the western Fagan-Bradley

school of astrology, but it seems that Jyotish just can't stay away. Some

of us who post here use mainly Jyotish techniques.

 

Anyway, you're on the right track using precession corrected returns. Have

you looked at the Kerry and Bush returns for this year? These precession

corrected returns have their roots in the western sidereal school. Well--on

second thought--sort of. India has used them for a long time, but they

aren't interpreted in the same way they are in the west.

 

See you on Thursday. Tomorrow (drum roll) another day in the big city at

the dentist's office.

 

Blessings,

Therese

 

At 12:10 AM 5/12/04 -0000, you wrote:

>

>Hi to All and thanks to Therese for this link here. I have been

>studying Western for over thirty years and recently decided to learn

>as much as I can about Jyotish. This is where I found Therese's

>link here. For many years I have been using sidereal astro for solar

>return charts with some success; using precession corrected time, so

>already have an interest in sidereal astrology and it makes sense to

>me. Just have to wrap my brain around it now.

>

>Needless to say I am fascinated and eager to learn, and look forward

>to reading and reading and reading early postings onward, warm

>wishes, Morgana

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