Guest guest Posted July 27, 2003 Report Share Posted July 27, 2003 ------------- > > Message: 1 > Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:58:27 -0700 (PDT) > chchrisrooks <sisirill03 > RE: Digest Number 585 > > Is frater Brahmen and chris brooks one and > the same person? Hi frater Brahmen/Chris Here in Holland the frater is a clergy-teacher. Are you one? Delineation is actually the birth figure. I misused the word. I actually meant the explanation/translation of the birthfigure. In Holland an astrologer wrote a book " the planetes speaking " . From the bible we know the happening that a hand wrote several secret signs on the wall during a lawsuit; you ever been curious what they meant? Only astrology is able to present the truth in short script. Salomon might have practiced astrology; a great help to solve a difficult problem to stop the disputation during the lawsuit.In America possible a great solution too, especially where the deathpenalty practiced. I'm Sagittarius, Scorpio rising............ Sidereal zodiac or tropical? Peace and light voor you too. Anny Message: 2 Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:20:56 -0000 " jeremy nelson " <lalakerfan4life2002 can scorpio's can scorpio's since if someone is lying to them? A difficult question. Did you forget some words? Message: 3 Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:50:19 -0000 " sidereally_occultated_0059 " <sidereally_occultated_0059 relocated london thank you everyone for your input. you've all given me a lot to think about. i enjoy thinking about my career taking on more focus (sat/MC) and must admit to being curious about the dreamy idealism that could accompany this new home (nep/IC). however, i, too, am tempted to think, " yikes! don't want saturn on any angle! " not to mention In my experience I learned most from Saturnus. At 46 Saturnus moved through my 4th house (in the radix in 10th). We were planning to move out of our first home (too small for 5 kids) and buy a house. I knew already a bit about astrology.Consulted an astrologer. When Saturn moved into the 5th house my inherition, bound in real estate, brought us at the same time the opportunity to buy the best house up till then. A wonder for me I experienced so. I still wonder, if I am right, if Saturn in the relocation chart in X is as influental as in my life, because in LA he occupies the second house. My afterthought is, that your radix sun is in Libra, so Venus or Cupido might be more of influence. For instance:my Saturn (in Sagitarius in X) is the ruler of my sun (in Capricornus). That is why he is so important in my life, teaching me patience/responsibility. Venus in your figure, is in VII the house of cooperation. (Meridian - house cyclus) conjunct Mercurius, the writer. Neptune in IV, in afterthought, also speaks for history, delving into the past. You are lucky, I am mainly interested for research in the past and in mundane questions to learn everything. In the past days I have been in trouble with my program about the year for London. She refuses to work for me. I practiced AD calendre, but the two digits forced me to choose for BC/JC to proceed the chart. I doubt if that is right for London. I may solve the problem these days. Saturnus in the radix is retrograde, but not Neptune. You have luck, because Neptune is more important in your life than Saturnus for your work though Saturn helps you to form your creations into reality. I need more experience explaining secondair progressions. Now I am aged I see the importance of secondair progressions. My program Janus contains the Uranian planet, tough the explanation are not in there. I am glad they exist in the program. It is remarkable that the Uranian astrology gained popularity in USA first. The books however are published in German language first,which I possess now. Anna Belle Donath published her experiences with the Uranian " planetes " in combination with the Asteroides. She shows in there the influence of them; also midpoints. " Janus " gives also mid- points. The book is focussed mainly on the asteroides, but there is spend enough time to explain influence of the Uranian " planetes " (actually they are called " work-points " since they are not visible yet. A lady Penelope in New York, is a publisher of these books. Perhaps you find out, other wise I'll try for you in Hamburg. I am glad you reacted to our contributions. I actually need encouragement, because I learn from it too, at the moment I am writing. Regards, Anny Jane Axtell http://www.startiming.net Hi Jane! I learned too first from reading. Succes for later. Regards, Anny Hi Ed, We know about mistakes. I hope Therese is forgiving you. Regret is painful in the soul, I experienced too. Anny ______________________ ______________________ Message: 6 Thu, 24 Jul 2003 03:45:06 -0000 " jan61108 " <jan61108 Something to while away the hours Consider this, World Trade Center attack chart in the middle, RAMC, Sibley Chart around it (precession corrected right asscension of Sun and Saturn), Dubya's natal around that (precession corrected right ascension of Moon and RAMC), right ascension of transiting Sun and Saturn at noon July 8, 2004, Washington D.C. and their relationship to the aforementioned points. Nah, that doesn't work. Hi Bob ??????????? Dubya is that the son Saddam Hussein? Regards, Anny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Dear anny, i apologize for the long delay in my response to your last post regarding my relocated london chart. i have problems posting sometimes (i submit a letter devoid of anything inflammatory and it won't get on the board). i'm not sure why. finally, i am able to respond to what you wrote. re saturn being in my relocated 10th house being as influential as your natal sat/10th placement, i can't see why it wouldn't if we're to believe the effectiveness of relocations in the first place. here, in LA, my natal saturn stands in the first (using campanus) and is already a large influence in my life and personality. i agree with you about venus being a great planet to get lined up with angle as far as moving. presently in LA my DC has moved about a degree and a half closer to venus. the influx of art has been amazing. however, i'd also like to become more recognized in my field and am thinking a saturn/10th would help out with that. but would i lose the artistic influence the venus/DC that my relocated LA chart provided? of would i retain it since it's in my natal also? all these new influences to consider have been swimming around in my head. for example, relocated uranus would now reside in my second house, giving me huge fluxuations in income and financial status. not fun to contemplate. even less so to experience, i'm sure. " You have luck, because Neptune is more important in your life than Saturnus " ...do you mean in the relocated chart neptune will be more of an influence than saturn because it sits partile conjunct to the nadir, as opposed to saturn who's still a few degrees away from the midheaven? thank you so much for the thoughts you have shared with me on this matter of relocation charts. i have benefitted tremendously from the points you have brought up. i am biased enough in this case that i can't be of much help to myself, having difficulty knowing what to focus on. i wish i knew more about uranian astrology so i could understand more fully some of the references you have made. i know basically what the transneptunians stand for. and have a program that will include them. in fact, i'm going to see if i can pull up the reolcated chart with the uranian planets right now.... i see that zeus now conjuncts the ASC and kronos, the midheaven. that is, if i'm just relocating the london angles to my natal, as usual, then throwing the transneptunians in. is that how you're casting it? -paola , " Anny van Berckel " <avbdk@x> wrote: > ------------- > > > > > Message: 1 > > Mon, 30 Jun 2003 11:58:27 -0700 (PDT) > > chchrisrooks <sisirill03> > > RE: Digest Number 585 > > > > Is frater Brahmen and chris brooks one and > > the same person? > > Hi frater Brahmen/Chris > Here in Holland the frater is a clergy-teacher. Are you one? > > Delineation is actually the birth figure. I misused the word. > I actually meant the explanation/translation of the birthfigure. > In Holland an astrologer wrote a book " the planetes speaking " . > From the bible we know the happening that a hand wrote several > secret signs on the wall during a lawsuit; you ever been curious > what they meant? Only astrology is able to present the truth in > short script. Salomon might have practiced astrology; a great > help to solve a difficult problem to stop the disputation > during the lawsuit.In America possible a great solution too, > especially where the deathpenalty practiced. > > I'm Sagittarius, Scorpio rising............ > > Sidereal zodiac or tropical? > > Peace and light voor you too. > Anny > > > > Message: 2 > Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:20:56 -0000 > " jeremy nelson " <lalakerfan4life2002> > can scorpio's > > can scorpio's since if someone is lying to them? > > A difficult question. Did you forget some words? > > Message: 3 > Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:50:19 -0000 > " sidereally_occultated_0059 " <sidereally_occultated_0059> > relocated london > > thank you everyone for your input. you've all given me a lot to think > about. i enjoy thinking about my career taking on more focus (sat/MC) > and must admit to being curious about the dreamy idealism that could > accompany this new home (nep/IC). however, i, too, am tempted to > think, " yikes! don't want saturn on any angle! " not to mention > > In my experience I learned most from Saturnus. At 46 Saturnus > moved through my 4th house (in the radix in 10th). We were planning > to move out of our first home (too small for 5 kids) and buy a house. > I knew already a bit about astrology.Consulted an astrologer. When > Saturn moved into the 5th house my inherition, bound in real estate, > brought us at the same time the opportunity to buy the best house up > till then. A wonder for me I experienced so. > I still wonder, if I am right, if Saturn in the relocation chart > in X is as influental as in my life, because in LA he occupies the > second house. My afterthought is, that your radix sun is in Libra, > so Venus or Cupido might be more of influence. For instance:my Saturn > (in Sagitarius in X) is the ruler of my sun (in Capricornus). That is > why he is so important in my life, teaching me patience/responsibility. > Venus in your figure, is in VII the house of cooperation. (Meridian - > house cyclus) conjunct Mercurius, the writer. > Neptune in IV, in afterthought, also speaks for history, > delving into the past. You are lucky, I am mainly interested for > research in the past and in mundane questions to learn everything. > In the past days I have been in trouble with my program about the > year for London. She refuses to work for me. I practiced AD calendre, > but the two digits forced me to choose for BC/JC to proceed the chart. > I doubt if that is right for London. I may solve the problem these > days. Saturnus in the radix is retrograde, but not Neptune. You have > luck, because Neptune is more important in your life than Saturnus > for your work though Saturn helps you to form your creations into > reality. I need more experience explaining secondair progressions. > Now I am aged I see the importance of secondair progressions. > My program Janus contains the Uranian planet, tough the > explanation are not in there. I am glad they exist in the program. > It is remarkable that the Uranian astrology gained popularity in USA > first. The books however are published in German language first,which > I possess now. Anna Belle Donath published her experiences with the > Uranian " planetes " in combination with the Asteroides. She shows in > there the influence of them; also midpoints. " Janus " gives also mid- > points. The book is focussed mainly on the asteroides, but there is > spend enough time to explain influence of the Uranian " planetes " > (actually they are called " work-points " since they are not visible yet. > A lady Penelope in New York, is a publisher of these books. > Perhaps you find out, other wise I'll try for you in Hamburg. > I am glad you reacted to our contributions. I actually need > encouragement, because I learn from it too, at the moment I am > writing. > Regards, > Anny > > > > > Jane Axtell > http://www.startiming.net > > Hi Jane! I learned too first from reading. Succes for later. > Regards, > Anny > > Hi Ed, > > We know about mistakes. I hope Therese is forgiving you. > Regret is painful in the soul, I experienced too. > Anny > > > > ____________________ __ > ____________________ __ > > Message: 6 > Thu, 24 Jul 2003 03:45:06 -0000 > " jan61108 " <jan61108> > Something to while away the hours > > Consider this, World Trade Center attack chart in the middle, RAMC, > Sibley Chart around it (precession corrected right asscension of Sun > and Saturn), Dubya's natal around that (precession corrected right > ascension of Moon and RAMC), right ascension of transiting Sun and > Saturn at noon July 8, 2004, Washington D.C. and their relationship > to the aforementioned points. > > Nah, that doesn't work. > > Hi Bob > > ??????????? Dubya is that the son Saddam Hussein? > Regards, > Anny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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