Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Jen.... Please advise what month and day you were born in 1954. Also... the time of your birth... was it AM or PM... Juan PS: The ACS will move " roughly " 1 degree for every 4 minutes of time... An hour of time will advance the Asc 15 degrees... If you were found to be born 2 hours and 15 minutes later then your Asc would be 33 degrees and 45 minutes beyond your original calculation. A full sign plus a couple of degrees... --- Jen Gillibrand <jen wrote: > Forgive me ,I am a long time lurker , a complete > beginner . I have a > colleague who is heavily into sidereal astrology and > they worked out my > chart for me ( 10.11.54 08.30 London UK ) They tell > me that I am Libra with > Libra rising and Moon in Aries . However, up until a > couple of months ago I > believed , mistakenly , that my time of birth was > 06.15 ; using this data an > online sidereal astrologer , a couple of years ago , > still came up with a > Libra asc . As I said a complete beginner , but I > read some books and did a > short course where I was taught that the asc moves > every couple of hours - > that being so would not my revised asc be Scorpio . > If any of you well > versed people could give me some advice on this I > would be eternally > grateful ! > Bestest . Jen. > > _____ > > Zorak [apocalocust] > 27 January 2004 22:14 > > Re: Astrolog? > > > , " Chris > Mitchell " > <chrismitchell@z...> wrote: > >>>I wondered if anyone uses Astrolog here - the > free astrology program. > I've been using it for ages for tropical astrology, > and it does sidereal > charts too very easily (and you can define what > Ayanamsa to use), but I'm > not sure if doing a sidereal solar return is simply > a case of making sure > that the Sun is in the same sidereal position as it > was when I was born - > presumably, the whole point of sidereal is that I > don't need to take > precession into account? > > If anyone has software that does SSRs easily, could > you possibly check > something out for me, please?<<< > > - That is the correct way to find the solar return. > Same applies for the > lunar return, of course. > > I used Astrolog for about a year for sidereal > astrology, but it really is a > pain in the behind to calculate returns with, and > progressions are even more > of a pain. It is at heart a tropical astrology > program with a sidereal > 'option'. I eventually wrote a program, Aldebaran, > to do all of this stuff > for me automagically, and unlike Astrolog, it is > made specifically for > sidereal astrology and techniques. Its major > shortcoming compared to > Astrolog is a lack of pretty graphics, which I don't > have time to program, > but it -is- free. (Nobody should have to pay for > what amounts to a > calculator.) > > http://wealthandpower.org/aldebaran/ > > > > My birth data is: 15 March 1960, 15:25GMT, > Windsor, England - 0W35, 51N28. > > My natal Sun is 0Pis52'26 " (sidereal) and > Ascendant is 3Leo25. > > > > If I do what I think is a SSR for 1996, I get an > Ascendant of 2Lib19, and > a > > Moon of 13Cap02. > > > > Does this sound right? And as a side note, what > houses systems do you tend > > to use? > > Yup. Aldebaran reports 02Lib24'23 " for the AC, and > 13Cap02'12 " for the > Moon. > > I personally don't use a house system, because I > don't see what basis in > reality they have. Jyotish uses the full-house > system, where the houses are > exactly aligned with the signs; I'd use that, if > any. > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Chris. > > > Jesse Milligan > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close > to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: > - > Un: > - > List owner: > -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 On Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:18 PM , Jen Gillibrand wrote: > Forgive me ,I am a long time lurker , a complete beginner . I have a > colleague who is heavily into sidereal astrology and they worked out > my chart for me ( 10.11.54 08.30 London UK ) They tell me that I am > Libra with Libra rising and Moon in Aries . However, up until a > couple of months ago I believed , mistakenly , that my time of birth > was 06.15 ; using this data an online sidereal astrologer , a couple > of years ago , still came up with a Libra asc . As I said a complete > beginner , but I read some books and did a short course where I was > taught that the asc moves every couple of hours - that being so would > not my revised asc be Scorpio . If any of you well versed people > could give me some advice on this I would be eternally grateful ! > Bestest . Jen. > Signs take different times to rise - Libra is a slow-rising sign, so can take about 3 hours to rise - however, since your 06:15 Ascendant is in the middle of Libra, you're quite right - it will push your Ascendant into Scorpio. When you say 10.11.54, I assume you mean 10 November rather than October 11 (so you're quoting in European format, not US format) - if so, I don't get a Libra rising for the 08:30 time, I get 6Sco40 rising (and 12Lib45 for the 06:15 time). Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hello Juan Yes , its 10th Nov . 08.30 a.m. Bestest . Jen. _____ Juan Oliver [jivio] 28 January 2004 17:56 RE: Re: Astrolog? Jen.... Please advise what month and day you were born in 1954. Also... the time of your birth... was it AM or PM... Juan PS: The ACS will move " roughly " 1 degree for every 4 minutes of time... An hour of time will advance the Asc 15 degrees... If you were found to be born 2 hours and 15 minutes later then your Asc would be 33 degrees and 45 minutes beyond your original calculation. A full sign plus a couple of degrees... --- Jen Gillibrand <jen wrote: > Forgive me ,I am a long time lurker , a complete > beginner . I have a > colleague who is heavily into sidereal astrology and > they worked out my > chart for me ( 10.11.54 08.30 London UK ) They tell > me that I am Libra with > Libra rising and Moon in Aries . However, up until a > couple of months ago I > believed , mistakenly , that my time of birth was > 06.15 ; using this data an > online sidereal astrologer , a couple of years ago , > still came up with a > Libra asc . As I said a complete beginner , but I > read some books and did a > short course where I was taught that the asc moves > every couple of hours - > that being so would not my revised asc be Scorpio . > If any of you well > versed people could give me some advice on this I > would be eternally > grateful ! > Bestest . Jen. > > _____ > > Zorak [apocalocust] > 27 January 2004 22:14 > > Re: Astrolog? > > > , " Chris > Mitchell " > <chrismitchell@z...> wrote: > >>>I wondered if anyone uses Astrolog here - the > free astrology program. > I've been using it for ages for tropical astrology, > and it does sidereal > charts too very easily (and you can define what > Ayanamsa to use), but I'm > not sure if doing a sidereal solar return is simply > a case of making sure > that the Sun is in the same sidereal position as it > was when I was born - > presumably, the whole point of sidereal is that I > don't need to take > precession into account? > > If anyone has software that does SSRs easily, could > you possibly check > something out for me, please?<<< > > - That is the correct way to find the solar return. > Same applies for the > lunar return, of course. > > I used Astrolog for about a year for sidereal > astrology, but it really is a > pain in the behind to calculate returns with, and > progressions are even more > of a pain. It is at heart a tropical astrology > program with a sidereal > 'option'. I eventually wrote a program, Aldebaran, > to do all of this stuff > for me automagically, and unlike Astrolog, it is > made specifically for > sidereal astrology and techniques. Its major > shortcoming compared to > Astrolog is a lack of pretty graphics, which I don't > have time to program, > but it -is- free. (Nobody should have to pay for > what amounts to a > calculator.) > > http://wealthandpower.org/aldebaran/ > > > > My birth data is: 15 March 1960, 15:25GMT, > Windsor, England - 0W35, 51N28. > > My natal Sun is 0Pis52'26 " (sidereal) and > Ascendant is 3Leo25. > > > > If I do what I think is a SSR for 1996, I get an > Ascendant of 2Lib19, and > a > > Moon of 13Cap02. > > > > Does this sound right? And as a side note, what > houses systems do you tend > > to use? > > Yup. Aldebaran reports 02Lib24'23 " for the AC, and > 13Cap02'12 " for the > Moon. > > I personally don't use a house system, because I > don't see what basis in > reality they have. Jyotish uses the full-house > system, where the houses are > exactly aligned with the signs; I'd use that, if > any. > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Chris. > > > Jesse Milligan > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close > to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: > - > Un: > - > List owner: > -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 --- Chris Mitchell <chrismitchell wrote: > On Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:18 PM , > Jen Gillibrand wrote: > > > Forgive me , Please... no apologies for asking questions.... so would > > not my revised asc be Scorpio . for the 08:30 time, I get > 6Sco40 rising > > Chris. Yes... Accoring to Solar Fire for 8:30 AM London its 6Scorpio37... Congradulations.... I use Campanus for a house system... Chris may use the same or another... Bottom line... You're Asc. is in the 6Scorpio neighborhood. If any of you well > versed people > > could give me some advice on this I would be > eternally grateful ! > > Bestest . Jen. > > Eternal is a long time... I couldn't help but notice that you have a lunar return occurring today and by the looks of it your work is cut out for you this upcoming month. Hope you get everything you want. Also... what strikes me when looking at your natal chart is the t-square you possess between Saturn, Mars and the Moon. With Neptune now approaching a conjunction with your natal Mars I would chronicle your feelings and your experiences rather judiciously. The prankster (Neptune) is very challenging and conferring with your sidereal friend could be very helpfull. Peace... Juan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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