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At 01:54 PM 11/19/03 -0800, Juan wrote:

>

>My Suggestion is to erect a Novienic Chart for

>yourself to better understand your " self " and your

> " sign " ... If you don't know how to do that, send me

>the degree and minute of your Moon's position and I

>will inform you what your Moon's Novenic position is.

 

I think some people on this list perhaps don't know what a novien chart is.

Cyril Fagan believed that the 9th harmonic chart should begin with Taurus

rather than Aries. He called this chart the 'novien.' In India the navamsa

chart is used. Both these words mean '9th harmonic,' that is, the zodiac is

divided into nine smaller zodiacs. Each zodiac sign contains nine smaller

signs. Each of these small signs is 3 degrees 20 minutes in length.

 

Using the navamsa chart it's very important which planets in the navamsa

cross over to natal planets. For example, a person may appear to be very

Martian, but Mars does not seem to be strong in the natal chart. In this

case the navamsa postion of Mars is likely to cross over to the natal Moon

or the natal ascendant. Each navamsa sign is like a little bell that rings

to the same tone as the larger natal sign.

 

As far as I know Fagan paid the most attention to the Moon's novien sign.

This will be different than the Moon's navamsa sign. The two

interpretations won't agree with each other. Fagan's diciples don't accept

the navamsa chart and Jyotish astrologers don't look at the novien chart.

 

Though Fagan invented the novien, it has not been used very much. In

contrast, the navamsa has been used in India for two thousand years.

 

>Libra is an " air " sign and as such demonstrates a

> " mental persona " . Whereas a water sign would emphasize

>emotion etc.... the elements contribute to

>understanding signs...

 

Juan, this surprised me because Fagan ridiculed any kind of sign categories

such as the element names being given to the triads or triplicities. Did he

change his mind as he grew older? If the 'air' signs are mental in the

Tropoical zodiac, how can they be the same in the sidereal zodiac?? Please

explain.

 

> We are all students and we are all teachers, whether

>we are conscious or not in our actions...

 

True!! That's what makes astrology such a universal language. We are all

constantly learning from each other.

 

Therese

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