12 Zones of the Year and the Stars

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> >>>... astrologers, who attend this sidereal list, have thrown overboard

> the tropical zodiac long before they joined sidereal list...

>

>

> ******* ... I don't believe either the 12 " Steps of the Sun " or seasonal

> increase &

> decrease in the Sun's light that causes the 12 months of the year, or the

> various stars that move through those 12 zones over 25,000 years, are the

> whole truth by themselves, much less that ONLY the understanding of them

> from

> Cyril Fagan or from the ancient Vedas, or from this person or that person,

> is

> the only correct one. I think that it's likely that both tropical astrology

>

> and sidereal astrology may be of use on different levels. I'd be just as

> interested in hearing about Ebertin's Cosmobiology or John Addey's

> harmonics

> or Gauquelin's work (which had no reference to EITHER tropical or sidereal

> astrology, only to the planets).

 

 

> >>>Peace, can you please elaborate on the stars traveling 12 zones every

> 25,000 years. How would we see this in our daily lives and where can I

> learn more on this. I have never heard of this concept in astrology before

> but I saw something on the discovery Civilization channel about the

> pyramids and 25,000 years.

> Thanks.

 

*******Well, it's a little hard to describe without using diagrams, but one

way to start might be with this time of year here in the Northern Hemisphere.

About three weeks ago was the winter solstice, when the sun was at its

southernmost point and the days were the shortest, only about 10 hours of day

and 14 hours night. Now the light's increasing and in about 70 days it will

be equal to the darkness, 12 hours day and 12 hours night, the vernal

equinox. About 90 days later the sun will be at its highest point in the

North and the days will be longest, the summer solstice; and then, about

another 90 days and day and night will be equal again, the autumnal equinox.

The two solstices and the two equinoxes are the four points that define the

year, and it's about 90 days or three lunar 'months' between each point. This

is the origin of the year of 12 months. Ancient people apparently had only a

lunar calendar which does not stay in synch with the seasons; traditionally,

the solar calendar was first worked out by the Egyptians, with the great help

of the fact that the Nile flooded each year at the same time. This rising and

falling of the sun every year was referred to by the ancients as the 12

'Steps of the Sun'; it's caused by the fact that the earth's axis in space is

not perpendicular to the plane in which it travels about the sun, but is

inclined to that plane about 23.5 degrees, which is what causes the seasons.

 

This reality of the year (which so many apparently wish to simply dismiss

here as the " tropical zodiac " ), has nothing whatever to do with the stars,

however. Right now the Sun's light is beginning to increase in the Northern

Hemisphere, and the Sun (if you could see it) is against the background of

the stars of the constellation Sagittarius. However, the pole of rotation of

the earth (the North -South axis about which the earth revolves) does not

always point to the same position in space, but does a slow rotation of its

own which lasts about 25,000 years, causing there to be different pole stars

every few millennia. This movement causes the four points from which the year

is reckoned, the solstices and equinoxes, to move slowly backward against the

background of the stars. So, the vernal equinox took place near the

constellation we call Aries the Ram at the time that the classical Greeks

compiled the first star catalogs we have copies of, and throughout the

Christian era has been taking place in the constellation Pisces the Fishes.

Currently it is taking place in the empty space between the constellation

Pisces and the next one, Aquarius; that's what all this talk about the

beginning of the 'Age of Aquarius' means.

 

But the vernal equinox is the beginning of spring in the Northern

Hemisphere regardless of what stars are there, which changes one

constellation about every 2000 years. Spring, summer, fall, and winter -- --

-- all the seasonal year with its increase and decrease of light -- -- --is a

reality which occurs again and again, from which we have the twelve months of

the year. The groups of stars we call constellations slowly move THROUGH the

12 zones which define the year, marked by the solstices and equinoxes. About

2000 B.C., what we call the constellation Taurus was at the point of the

Vernal Equinox, while Scorpius was at the autumnal Equinox, Leo was at the

summer solstice and Aquarius at the winter solstice. At the time of Christ,

the constellation Aries was at the vernal equinox, Libra at the autumnal

equinox, Cancer at the summer solstice and Capricorn at the winter solstice.

Now Pisces is at the vernal equinox, Virgo at the autumnal equinox, Gemini at

the summer solstice and Sagittarius at the winter solstice. 2000 years from

now, or less, depending on how you reckon, Aquarius will be at the vernal

equinox, Leo at the autumnal equinox, Taurus at the summer solstice and

Scorpio at the winter solstice. (This means the CONSTELLATIONS, the actual

groups of stars with those names.) 12,000 years ago when the great pyramid

was built, according to the Edgar Cayce readings, it was aligned to Leo at

the vernal equinox (hence the Lion-form Sphinx) and our pole Star was Vega.

 

People in the Western world mostly work with the 12 months of the year,

which were given the names of the 12 groups of stars in them 2000 years ago

and so are called the " tropical zodiac " from the " tropical " year, the year

marked out by the solstices and equinoxes. I guess there would be no

confusion if they had just kept the names " March " instead of Aries, " April "

(or month of Aphrodite) instead of Taurus, etc., but they didn't. Western

astrology says that people have characteristics based on the 12 months, while

sidereal astrology says that it is the stars themselves which are the

essential thing. Both systems look at the planets' movements relative to each

other and to the earth (the planets rising and setting) and figure those the

same, but one uses the 12 divisions of the Sun's path (marked out by the

solstices & equinoxes) as a background while the other uses the 12

constellations as the background.

 

If a group of stars is held to be ONLY what influences a person to be a

certain way, however, such as the constellation Taurus, for instance, then a

person will have to be born a month later every 2000 years to have that same

influence: the star Aldebaran, the eye of the bull in Taurus, is now at about

10 degrees Gemini, for example, meaning the sun is near it about May 1st,

while 2000 years from now a person would have to be born about June 1st to

have the sun near that star, and 2000 years further on would have to be born

in July, and so on. Apparently some people who work with the sidereal zodiac

believe that there is no influence from being born in spring vs. fall, or

summer vs. winter. I find that a little hard to believe, and am more inclined

to believe that both the 12 divisions of the year and the actual stars have

influences, but different ones; the former being solar influence while the

latter is stellar.

 

Dr. Starman

 

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