Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Dear Kulbir bhai, There are two upaya mentioned for Venus placed in the 8th house. Either of them can be done. One. that a flower [ not a blue flower] be dropped in a sewage drain for 43 days regularly. Second, that a copper coin be dropped in a sewage drain for 43 days regularly. Let us try to understand the logic of these two upaya. This is my assumption, may not be true. I would love to hear from other experts also. Upaya # 1 A sewage drain is considered the 8th house. Dropping a flower into the drain would mean bringing mercury [ flower ] and venus together in the 8th house. The book for this combination says [ page 300, arun sanhita], Raj sambandh shart na karata, rizaq daulat ghar barhta ho Khali drishti ho shani uttam, tarazoo maya zar chalta ho Ath, chhate, do, 3 , 12, 9, banavati surya do hota ho Uttam barabar asar dono ka, drishti ravi na karata jo Budh,shukra jab hon dono ikatthe, shani bhi uttam hota ho Aan daulat ki kami na koi, ghee mitti se nikalta ho. Therefore this upaya can be done so long as the sun is not in the 2nd house. Supposing that this combination forms a masnuyee sun as the stanza above also mentions in that case also the result would be : For Sun in the 8th the book [ page 115, Arun sanhita]: Raja tapasvi jis ghar baithe, maut bhagi khud koson ho Umra ravi se raj taraqqi, bhandari daulat jar banata ho Even if throwing a flower into a sewage drain results in artificial sun, it would be all the better. Even otherwise mercury is always helpful for venus, so much so that at times mercury helps venus through budh ki nail. Upaya # 2 The other alternative upaya suggested is to throw a copper coin into a sewage drain for 43 days regularly. This upaya will result into bringing the sun and venus together. Now, that appears to be rather surprising to bring two enemy planets together, more so, when the heat of the sun can whither the Venus. The only reason why this could have been suggested appears to be the resultant masnuyee Jupiter. For Jupiter in 8th the book says [ page 91, Arun sanhita]: Buzurgon ka ho sath jab rat karata, dhan sona maya aayu sab barhta jisma par sona qayam rakhe dukhiya kabhi vah na hoga Therefore, when suggesting this upaya one should also suggest that the jatak wears some thing of gold on his person. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > varun ji; one of the remedies for Venus 8 is to drop copper coin or > blue flower in ganda naala for 43 days continuosly. sun and rahu are > enemies and poles apart. yet both their items deliver the same > result. what could be the possible logic. > regards > kulbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Dear Varun ji, My two cents regarding upaya # 2 of throwing a copper coin into a nala for 43 days: If you go to see, the sun has mercury + venus as its artificial components. By throwing a copper coin into a nala, the equation in the 8th house, where a venus is already placed, would result in: Venus 100% + Sun [ Mercury 50% + venus 50% ] = Venus 150% + Mercury 50% I feel dropping the copper coin could be to strengthen the Venus in the 8th house and also providing it a support of mercury. Just a loud thinking. Have a nice day KP Miglani , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > There are two upaya mentioned for Venus placed in the 8th house. > Either of them can be done. > > One. that a flower [ not a blue flower] be dropped in a sewage drain > for 43 days regularly. > Second, that a copper coin be dropped in a sewage drain for 43 days > regularly. > > Let us try to understand the logic of these two upaya. This is my > assumption, may not be true. I would love to hear from other experts > also. > > Upaya # 1 > > A sewage drain is considered the 8th house. Dropping a flower into > the drain would mean bringing mercury [ flower ] and venus together > in the 8th house. The book for this combination says [ page 300, arun > sanhita], > > Raj sambandh shart na karata, rizaq daulat ghar barhta ho > Khali drishti ho shani uttam, tarazoo maya zar chalta ho > Ath, chhate, do, 3 , 12, 9, banavati surya do hota ho > Uttam barabar asar dono ka, drishti ravi na karata jo > Budh,shukra jab hon dono ikatthe, shani bhi uttam hota ho > Aan daulat ki kami na koi, ghee mitti se nikalta ho. > > Therefore this upaya can be done so long as the sun is not in the 2nd > house. > > Supposing that this combination forms a masnuyee sun as the stanza > above also mentions in that case also the result would be : > > For Sun in the 8th the book [ page 115, Arun sanhita]: > > Raja tapasvi jis ghar baithe, maut bhagi khud koson ho > Umra ravi se raj taraqqi, bhandari daulat jar banata ho > > Even if throwing a flower into a sewage drain results in artificial > sun, it would be all the better. > Even otherwise mercury is always helpful for venus, so much so that > at times mercury helps venus through budh ki nail. > > Upaya # 2 > > The other alternative upaya suggested is to throw a copper coin into > a sewage drain for 43 days regularly. > This upaya will result into bringing the sun and venus together. > Now, that appears to be rather surprising to bring two enemy planets > together, more so, when the heat of the sun can whither the Venus. > The only reason why this could have been suggested appears to be the > resultant masnuyee Jupiter. > For Jupiter in 8th the book says [ page 91, Arun sanhita]: > > Buzurgon ka ho sath jab rat karata, > dhan sona maya aayu sab barhta > jisma par sona qayam rakhe > dukhiya kabhi vah na hoga > > Therefore, when suggesting this upaya one should also suggest that > the jatak wears some thing of gold on his person. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > varun ji; one of the remedies for Venus 8 is to drop copper coin or > > blue flower in ganda naala for 43 days continuosly. sun and rahu > are > > enemies and poles apart. yet both their items deliver the same > > result. what could be the possible logic. > > regards > > kulbir > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Respected miglani ji, Your two cents are worth a dollar, and may be even more. Sure your interpretation sounds logical too. Hope you will keep adding your two cents to our kitty. With regards, Varun Trivedi , " kpmiglani " <kpmiglani wrote: > > Dear Varun ji, > > My two cents regarding upaya # 2 of throwing a copper coin into a > nala for 43 days: > > If you go to see, the sun has mercury + venus as its artificial > components. By throwing a copper coin into a nala, the equation in > the 8th house, where a venus is already placed, would result in: > > Venus 100% + Sun [ Mercury 50% + venus 50% ] > = Venus 150% + Mercury 50% > > I feel dropping the copper coin could be to strengthen the Venus in > the 8th house and also providing it a support of mercury. > > Just a loud thinking. > > Have a nice day > > KP Miglani > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > There are two upaya mentioned for Venus placed in the 8th house. > > Either of them can be done. > > > > One. that a flower [ not a blue flower] be dropped in a sewage > drain > > for 43 days regularly. > > Second, that a copper coin be dropped in a sewage drain for 43 days > > regularly. > > > > Let us try to understand the logic of these two upaya. This is my > > assumption, may not be true. I would love to hear from other > experts > > also. > > > > Upaya # 1 > > > > A sewage drain is considered the 8th house. Dropping a flower into > > the drain would mean bringing mercury [ flower ] and venus together > > in the 8th house. The book for this combination says [ page 300, > arun > > sanhita], > > > > Raj sambandh shart na karata, rizaq daulat ghar barhta ho > > Khali drishti ho shani uttam, tarazoo maya zar chalta ho > > Ath, chhate, do, 3 , 12, 9, banavati surya do hota ho > > Uttam barabar asar dono ka, drishti ravi na karata jo > > Budh,shukra jab hon dono ikatthe, shani bhi uttam hota ho > > Aan daulat ki kami na koi, ghee mitti se nikalta ho. > > > > Therefore this upaya can be done so long as the sun is not in the > 2nd > > house. > > > > Supposing that this combination forms a masnuyee sun as the stanza > > above also mentions in that case also the result would be : > > > > For Sun in the 8th the book [ page 115, Arun sanhita]: > > > > Raja tapasvi jis ghar baithe, maut bhagi khud koson ho > > Umra ravi se raj taraqqi, bhandari daulat jar banata ho > > > > Even if throwing a flower into a sewage drain results in artificial > > sun, it would be all the better. > > Even otherwise mercury is always helpful for venus, so much so that > > at times mercury helps venus through budh ki nail. > > > > Upaya # 2 > > > > The other alternative upaya suggested is to throw a copper coin > into > > a sewage drain for 43 days regularly. > > This upaya will result into bringing the sun and venus together. > > Now, that appears to be rather surprising to bring two enemy > planets > > together, more so, when the heat of the sun can whither the Venus. > > The only reason why this could have been suggested appears to be > the > > resultant masnuyee Jupiter. > > For Jupiter in 8th the book says [ page 91, Arun sanhita]: > > > > Buzurgon ka ho sath jab rat karata, > > dhan sona maya aayu sab barhta > > jisma par sona qayam rakhe > > dukhiya kabhi vah na hoga > > > > Therefore, when suggesting this upaya one should also suggest that > > the jatak wears some thing of gold on his person. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > varun ji; one of the remedies for Venus 8 is to drop copper coin > or > > > blue flower in ganda naala for 43 days continuosly. sun and rahu > > are > > > enemies and poles apart. yet both their items deliver the same > > > result. what could be the possible logic. > > > regards > > > kulbir > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Respected Varun ji, I will feel honoured to be contributing here. I will try to the best of my ability. Thank you for being so kind to me. Sincerely, KP Miglani , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected miglani ji, > > Your two cents are worth a dollar, and may be even more. Sure your > interpretation sounds logical too. > > Hope you will keep adding your two cents to our kitty. > > With regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > , " kpmiglani " > <kpmiglani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > > My two cents regarding upaya # 2 of throwing a copper coin into a > > nala for 43 days: > > > > If you go to see, the sun has mercury + venus as its artificial > > components. By throwing a copper coin into a nala, the equation in > > the 8th house, where a venus is already placed, would result in: > > > > Venus 100% + Sun [ Mercury 50% + venus 50% ] > > = Venus 150% + Mercury 50% > > > > I feel dropping the copper coin could be to strengthen the Venus in > > the 8th house and also providing it a support of mercury. > > > > Just a loud thinking. > > > > Have a nice day > > > > KP Miglani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > > > > > > There are two upaya mentioned for Venus placed in the 8th house. > > > Either of them can be done. > > > > > > One. that a flower [ not a blue flower] be dropped in a sewage > > drain > > > for 43 days regularly. > > > Second, that a copper coin be dropped in a sewage drain for 43 > days > > > regularly. > > > > > > Let us try to understand the logic of these two upaya. This is my > > > assumption, may not be true. I would love to hear from other > > experts > > > also. > > > > > > Upaya # 1 > > > > > > A sewage drain is considered the 8th house. Dropping a flower > into > > > the drain would mean bringing mercury [ flower ] and venus > together > > > in the 8th house. The book for this combination says [ page 300, > > arun > > > sanhita], > > > > > > Raj sambandh shart na karata, rizaq daulat ghar barhta ho > > > Khali drishti ho shani uttam, tarazoo maya zar chalta ho > > > Ath, chhate, do, 3 , 12, 9, banavati surya do hota ho > > > Uttam barabar asar dono ka, drishti ravi na karata jo > > > Budh,shukra jab hon dono ikatthe, shani bhi uttam hota ho > > > Aan daulat ki kami na koi, ghee mitti se nikalta ho. > > > > > > Therefore this upaya can be done so long as the sun is not in the > > 2nd > > > house. > > > > > > Supposing that this combination forms a masnuyee sun as the > stanza > > > above also mentions in that case also the result would be : > > > > > > For Sun in the 8th the book [ page 115, Arun sanhita]: > > > > > > Raja tapasvi jis ghar baithe, maut bhagi khud koson ho > > > Umra ravi se raj taraqqi, bhandari daulat jar banata ho > > > > > > Even if throwing a flower into a sewage drain results in > artificial > > > sun, it would be all the better. > > > Even otherwise mercury is always helpful for venus, so much so > that > > > at times mercury helps venus through budh ki nail. > > > > > > Upaya # 2 > > > > > > The other alternative upaya suggested is to throw a copper coin > > into > > > a sewage drain for 43 days regularly. > > > This upaya will result into bringing the sun and venus together. > > > Now, that appears to be rather surprising to bring two enemy > > planets > > > together, more so, when the heat of the sun can whither the Venus. > > > The only reason why this could have been suggested appears to be > > the > > > resultant masnuyee Jupiter. > > > For Jupiter in 8th the book says [ page 91, Arun sanhita]: > > > > > > Buzurgon ka ho sath jab rat karata, > > > dhan sona maya aayu sab barhta > > > jisma par sona qayam rakhe > > > dukhiya kabhi vah na hoga > > > > > > Therefore, when suggesting this upaya one should also suggest > that > > > the jatak wears some thing of gold on his person. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > varun ji; one of the remedies for Venus 8 is to drop copper > coin > > or > > > > blue flower in ganda naala for 43 days continuosly. sun and > rahu > > > are > > > > enemies and poles apart. yet both their items deliver the same > > > > result. what could be the possible logic. > > > > regards > > > > kulbir > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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