Guest guest Posted December 9, 2007 Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Respected sanya ji, Rahu reading the 'tahreer' of malefic Mars means that rahu is prepared to do the bidding of the malefic Mars. Like a good servant rahu knows what the master [ Mars bud] wants him to do even before the master asks him to do. It has nothing to do with whether one gets an idea of things to come in dreams. Malefic Mars is said to be extremely notorious. The lal Kitab says that the saturn kindles a fire with dry fire-wood, where as the ashubh mangal kindles fire with the dry corpses. On the face of it buree nazar is caused by ashubh mangal, but it might be responsible for many things more Apart from Mercury and rahu combination, the other combination that might cause mental aberration is mercury and the moon in bad relationship. I can not discuss the horoscope of your sister because it is not allowed here. Regards, Varun Trivedi , sanya mehra <sanyamehra_80 wrote: > > Thank you Varun Ji for the explanation. > I have few doubts relating to this. > What happens if rahu is able to read about the effects of malefic mangal? > What does it actually mean? > You mean to say if one is blessed with good powers of rahu can foresee in dreams many times about the good or bad happenings in future? > > and malefic mangal as you quoted earlier can affect through means of nazar lagna only? or other ways too? > > and like you mentioned for mercury with rahu combination in mande house leads to hospitalization, jail khaana or paagal khaana and also that mercury malefic leads to bhoot pret ya saaya ki problems. > So I had a question relating to this that does not mercury rahu combination leads to jail khaana, paagal khaana etc or any other combination too causes this kind of problem. > > Actually my sister has jup mercury in 10th house and moon sat rahu in 11th house. We dont know her exact time minute wise as she was born in maternal house. Since she is prone to mental illness(mood disorder) due to depression or any stress taken by her mentally, and she tends to always see imaginary ppl when not well, always same people who r not known to us in real. Even when she gets well she sees the same faces in her dreams at times. > So I was doubting if due to bhav spasht may be her mercury combines with rahu and moon remains with sat. Was just trying to figure out the actual planetary combination as I doubt if seeing same people again n again can be termed as having some kind of saaya (symptoms of malefic mercury). > > Yours sincerely > Sanya > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Respected Sanya ji, > > I believe the word 'tahreer' is what made it difficult for you to > understand. Literally the word 'tahreer' means 'writing', 'that which > is written'. > > The sentence that you have quoted loosely transliterated would mean: > > Rahu will read [ even as if in a dream] what the malefic mangal has > written for you, because the Rahu has the power over the unreal > happenings. > > In short it means that Rahu can read the coming evil effects of > mangal bud. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , sanya mehra > <sanyamehra_80@> wrote: > > > > Respected Varun Ji. > > Can I know the meaning of this statement in english please. > > mangal bad jo tahreer karave , us tahreer ki khyali safar ki > taqat > > ka malik rahu khwab mein hi parh lega†[ 52 urdu ed : page 644 > > Yours sincerely > > Sanya > > > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Jain Saheb, > > > > I am quoting a small explanation given by Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji on > > the subject. I hope it serves the purpose. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > Quote : > > > > Let’s first see which planets and their combinations could cause > evil > > eye or evil spell. Evil eye is normally associated with jealousy > > where as Evil spell is normally associated with ‘buri atma’ bad > souls > > in the form of jin , bhoot-prêt etc. > > > > [ 1 ] For the two forms of Mangal { mars } the book says , > > > > { i } “ vah nazar ka malik to nahi magar nazar ke asar ka karishma > is > > ka hissa hai / kisi ko nazar lag gayee ; ya nazar se hi waham > baithe > > huye saikaron meel ki cheezen khyal ki tarah dekh aana uski taqat > > hai†[ 52 urdu ed page 480 ] > > ‘Although not the ‘karak’ of sight as such, but the effect of the > > sight falls under its domain. Whether an evil eye or an ability to > > see things hundreds of miles away {clairvoyance}, > > all come under its purview.’ > > > > Thus the mangal ashubh {malefic} causes evil eye as mangal shubh > > {benefic} gives the power of clairvoyance. > > > > {ii } The presiding deity mentioned for Mangal ashubh are ‘ jin and > > bhoot’ [ Lal Kitab : table of things associated] > > > > [ 2 ] Mercury : > > > > { i }Mercury has been associated with ‘ bhoot shakti , murda > ruhen , > > mande wazood , bhoot-pret’ [ Lal Kitab : table of things > associated ] > > > > { ii }Mercury is further defined as : “ kisi cheez ka saaya ya > aqsa, > > agar asal cheez {jis ka saaya hai} ka pataa na lage ki vah kahan > hai†> > [ 52 urdu ed : page 534 ] > > > > [ 3 ] For Rahu the lal Kitab says, > > > > “ mangal bad jo tahreer karave , us tahreer ki khyali safar ki > taqat > > ka malik rahu khwab mein hi parh lega†[ 52 urdu ed : page 644 ] > > > > “ jab budh aur rahu milen [ mande khano mein ] to agar jail khana > > nahi to hospital, pagal khana , kabristan ya veerana to zaroor > milega > > kasoor ya beemari khwah na ho†[ 52 urdu ed : page 529 ] > > > > Therefore three planets, or their combinations, signify evil eye or > > an evil spell : Ashubh mangal , ashubh budh and rahu. > > > > { A } Now lets see the ‘karak’ objects of the traditional folk > > upaya for evil spell . > > > > ‘On a Sunday, burn a little kachcha koyala {wood charcoal} along > with > > dried droppings of either a camel or a deer {Camel dung or deer > > dung} in an earthen pot . When the charcoal and the camel / deer > > droppings get red, sprinkle a few mustard seeds and a little bat / > > pigeon droppings over it and carry the smoking pot around the > house, > > in every nook and corner. The best place you can collect the bat / > > pigeon droppings from is the deserted old buildings where bats > roost > > during the day. Repeat this process for at least 13 Sundays.’ > > > > Kachcha koyala = rahu > > deer droppings = ashubh mangal > > camel dropping = Rahu > > Earthen pot = budh > > Mustard seeds = rahu > > Bat/pigeon droppings = ashubh budh > > > > The same three planets as mentioned above which are being burnt > > assuming that the ‘buree atma’ is burned into smoke. > > > > { B } Now lets see the karak objects of the traditional folk upaya > > for an evil eye. > > > > ‘Either on a Tuesday or a Saturday, take the child to the Hanuman > > temple. Apply a tilak of sindoor on the fore head of the child. The > > sindoor should be taken from the right shoulder of the Hanuman > idol.’ > > > > Hanuman ji = shubh mangal > > { bhoot pishach nikat nahi ave , mahaveer jab naam sunave ; nase > rog > > hare sab peera , japat nitantar hanumat veera} > > Sindoor = subh mangal > > Right shoulder = subh mangal > > > > Here the help of shubh mangal is being taken to counter act the > > effect of ashubh mangal [ buree nazar] > > > > Bhooshan Priya > > > > , MK Jain <mkj_mpseb@> > > wrote: > > > > > > It is observed that in villages mostly ladies & childrens are > > under bhoot pret for a long period.They are treated by Ojas & > > Pandits.Plese give views & Remedies given inlal kitab along with > > combinations of grah in horoscope. > > > M.K.Jain > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgot the famous last words? 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