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, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest@s...> wrote:

 

> I had never thought of the night time observation of a star marking the

> opposite point to zero sidereal Aries! (The asterisks above are mine.)

 

This fact seems to have escaped the attention of most western sidereal

astrologers. It is one of the main reasons as to why I decided to work

with the True Ayanamsa (as some call it) rather than the SVP. But this

is of course a matter of great debate. I just like the fact that Spica

is visible and 'there.'

 

Moreover as a student of the metaphysical philosophy of Rudolf Steiner

I find it to be profoundly symbolic that the Roman Empire was divided

by the Emperor Diocletian into East and West in 285 AD, later leading

to the Eastern and Western Christian churches. The tropical and the

sidereal zodiacs coincided in the year 285 AD when the Lahiri Ayanamsa

was zero. Steiner considered Diocletian an 'initiate' and the division

of the Roman Empire predestined. From Steiner's perspective the year

285 AD marks an important development in the historical and spiritual

life of world civilization.

 

Ad astra per aspera

 

Andrew

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, Juan Oliver <jivio>

 

> Are you suggesting that one particular ayanamsa is the " true " ayanamsa?

 

Dr. Samuel Sagan of the 'Clairvision School' in Australia refers to

the Lahiri ayanamsa as the True Ayanamsa. I would not suggest that

there is a 'true ayanamsa' but I would assert it. I would also assert

that most western sidereal astrologers would not agree with my

assertion any more than they would agree with the assertions of Hindu

astrologers like Dr. Choudhry to the effect that the Lahiri ayanamsa

is the true ayanamsa.

 

> Diocletion an initiate? Do you believe in predetermination? IS life

as we know it predestined?

 

I do not know. I have an opinion but an opinion is not knowledge per

se. I 'believe' in order and chaos. I 'believe' that the large brush

strokes are predestined but the actual details of the picture are not.

 

> After reading the above links I didn't get the feeling of 285 AD

being significant as a time when sidereal and tropical calculations

shared something syncronistic.

 

It is not a matter of feeling but of historical fact. There are

several sources which attest to this -- even on the internet. Here is

just one:

 

http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/Mediterranean/LaterRome.Chron.html

 

Quote: '285: The Emperor Diocletian Divides the Roman Empire'

 

That is about as simple and straightforward as it gets.

 

Ad astra per aspera

 

Andrew

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, Juan Oliver <jivio> wrote:

 

> So... you wouldn't suggest Lahiri as the True Ayanamsa however you

would assert it..... your arrogance implies ignorance.... does

righteousness assert truth? Anyone who would " assert " that their

opinion is the only truth is ignorant.

 

Uh-huh. Anyone who would use the relatively innocuous opinions held by

another as a basis for referring to that individual as 'ignorant'

needs to run, not walk, to a good therapist.

 

The rest of your remarks do not merit any further comment on my part

-- now or at any time in the future.

 

Andrew

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