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Anny:

 

Hi. Very cordially I want to recall you that I am not discussing

your astrological tastes. In fact I am not criticizing you at all

because you don't practice hindu astrology, what I have been

recommending you is to drop the use of asteroids, no matter which

zodiac you use.

 

 

By the way, although I follow many of the concepts of hindu

astrology, I do incorporate some outer planets, but JUST 3: Uranus,

neptune and pluto.

 

And finally the chart you have for Colombia is inexact. Don't think

that all the data Campion gives is correct.

 

In regard to Diana's chart I think the best analysis of her chart

was done by Richard Houck, a late vedic astrologer.

 

 

Alfonso Osorio

 

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> Anny wrote:

>

> Hi Alfonso: Perhaps it is better to exchange information here,

> There are as many principles and experiences with astrology as

> there are tastes. About tastes .....is hard to agree.

> >> The reason why I did not start with Hindu concepts is, I

> would be cut off from Uranus, Neptune and Pluto and the rest.

> >> These planets have shown great influence in history,par

> example the Colombia chart (12-17-1819. 4:14:12PM.) Quite an

> interesting chart. Moon in Sagitarius conjunct Neptune in X;

> Mc is in Scorpio. See for yourself.

> At the time that Anthony Blair was preparing to win for

> the Labourparty, in England, the tropical astrologers, every

> where, said the Conservative Party would win. Anth.Blair was

> the one, in accordance to the sidereal calculations.

>

> Regards Anny.

>

>

>

 

>

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> Message: 4

> Sat, 03 May 2003 14:27:41 -0700

> Therese Hamilton <eastwest@s...>

> Re: The futility of the astrological lists-Hindu

>

> Alfonso,

> > Who started about Diana's birthtime? How many astrologers have

shuffledd

> > with the birthtime to make the chart right at their taste of

experience?

> > Penny Thorton in " Synastrie for two " did not mention Diana's

birthtime,

> > but her -though tropical figure- agrees, with my statement, that

official

> > time is the best for research.

>

> Cheerio Anny

>

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> Message: 5

> Sat, 03 May 2003 14:31:50 -0700

> Therese Hamilton <eastwest@s...>

> RE: Digest Number 532

>

>

> Here we are running into the house controversy. I have Saturn,

Jupiter and

> the Moon in the 5th house, not the 4th. So right away we have to

discuss,

> " What is a house??!! "

>

> Therese!It was about the wrong chart discussion. Saturnus and

Jupiter show

> up

> in the first house(7:45 chart). Indeed it is a Saturnus influence

looking

> down,

> if not speaking. But Gemini is shy some times!! My memory speaks of

the

> first

> time I saw her on TV. Probably you are talking of 15 years later.

>

> >>You are right Therese. I better keep the Uranian Points to

myself. I did

> not want to keep all experiences to myself.

>

> Ah, Anny!! Tropical-Sidereal mix-up here! It's sidereal Taurus

(rules the

> tongue and throat) that likes to talk, not Gemini. That's only in

the

> Tropical zodiac. See, sidereal astrologers are already confused

about their

> signs!!

>

> Therese Tropicalists are using concepts from early astrological

experiences.

> The sidereal astrology started with the notitions of experiences.

When

> Ptolemeus started with his four books, the equinox did notyet

arrived

> at 0° Aries. It was 4 degrees Aries. It is not all bad what

tropicalist

> aim at, only they have not yet discovered why their prognoses do not

> work anymore.

>

> Not always. It depends on what planets are aspecting the ascendant.

Venus

> and Moon give roundness, Mars give sharpness, etc. However, the

type of

> eyebrow structure seems to correlate with decanates.

>

> >> You are right, the ascendant is also speaking, but the sun is

important.

> An astrologer, a long time ago, thought my husband was a Sagitarius

person

> because of his Jupiter appearance (Then I was a pupil) My husband's

sun was

> conjunct Jupiter, in Gemini.(18 June). A tall and joyous person.

>

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> Message: 7

> Sat, 03 May 2003 22:56:37 -0700

> Richard <erichardg@e...>

> Re: Digest Number 532

>

>

> >Richard, Thanks very much for the two birthtimes.

> I prefer the official one, 7:45

>

> Message: 18

> Sun, 04 May 2003 16:57:50 -0000

> " alfonsoosorio " <alfonsoosorio>

> Astrology is not a science!

>

>

> >> Astrology, is based on knowlegde by experience.

> All faculties are based on that.

>

> Anny

>

> Leonardo da Vinci

> April 14, 1452

> 9:03:39 pm UT

> Anchiano, Italy

>

> >> This is really interesting. Which source is this?

>

> >> I have the 15th of April 1452 Julian Calender,3:00 AM

> from a database in Germany. I have not studied yet.

> Regards, Anny

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, " alfonsoosorio "

<alfonsoosorio> wrote:

 

 

what I have been

> recommending you is to drop the use of asteroids, no matter which

> zodiac you use.

>

 

Ahh, now here's something I can agree with.

 

- E

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