Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Dear Anurodh, Marriage is generally examined from the VIIth cusp... If the s/l of the VIIth signifies II,V,VII XI...then alone marriage is promised...Also it is helpful to check whether Punarphoo is present,as it is known to delay/disrupt the process of marriage ...and does NOT allow marriage to take place in first instance...it usually gives rise to repeated attempts/efforts, and causes some sort of frustration,in general... This is the recommended way to examine marriage and related matters...the quality of married life is examined from the XIth cusp...etc... With best wishes, Yours sincerely, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear list, I am giving a case on which I need the comments on my findings: The question has been asked by the mother of my friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's younger sister) The question details are: No. 151 Divination details:. 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, 80.56 e) I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of saturn-R. The running preiod is of venus which is in the star of moon. Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl is 31y plus age. She is MCA. The family is highly frustrated and have done all sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the different astrologers and pandits but nothing has happened till date. Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life of this girl. I am waiting eagerly. Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Dear Anurodh Kumar In a case like this, where some one is asking question on behalf of some body, the problem of selecting the house to be taken as an ascendent becomes a bit complicated. In this case, the Mother is asking the question re her daughter. The 5th house can be taken, only if the astologer is sure, that the daughter is the 1st issue, (no miscarriages before this), otherwise the answer may not be correct. The best course is to get the Horary Number from the girl herself. good luck Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear list, I am giving a case on which I need the comments on my findings: The question has been asked by the mother of my friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's younger sister) The question details are: No. 151 Divination details:. 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, 80.56 e) I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of saturn-R. The running preiod is of venus which is in the star of moon. Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl is 31y plus age. She is MCA. The family is highly frustrated and have done all sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the different astrologers and pandits but nothing has happened till date. Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life of this girl. I am waiting eagerly. Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Dear Anurodh, 1. I checked the chart and the position of the moon in the 151 no chart does not show the relation of the moon with 5th or 11 cusp i,e children and marriage or related cusps. 2. In my opinion one should re cast the chart at some other time and praceed further, if the position of the moon confirms the relation of qn and moon position in the new chart. 3. In the present case one not proceed further. 4. This opinion is debatable. With best wishes Ranade --- Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear list, I am giving a case on which I need the comments on my findings: The question has been asked by the mother of my friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's younger sister) The question details are: No. 151 Divination details:. 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, 80.56 e) I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of saturn-R. The running preiod is of venus which is in the star of moon. Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl is 31y plus age. She is MCA. The family is highly frustrated and have done all sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the different astrologers and pandits but nothing has happened till date. Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life of this girl. I am waiting eagerly. Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 it doesnot show denial of marriage but only delay. l , Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: > > Dear list, > I am giving a case on which I need the comments on my findings: > The question has been asked by the mother of my friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's younger sister) > > The question details are: > No. 151 > > Divination details:. > > 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, 80.56 e) > > I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). > The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of saturn-R. The running preiod is of venus which is in the star of moon. > > Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl is 31y plus age. She is MCA. > > The family is highly frustrated and have done all sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the different astrologers and pandits but nothing has happened till date. > > Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life of this girl. > I am waiting eagerly. > > > > Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Dears Dilip & Anurodh, Sorry to butt in...but... As per K.P., if the s/l of the VIIth signifies II,VII & XI ,only then is marriage promised,and if it signifies II,V VII & XI a love-marriage is indicated...as you are well aware... First, one has to get married,then only,one can have children legitimately ...isn't it ? Hence instead of analysing the Vth or XIth cusp,I suggest the alalysis should begin with the VIIth s/l...first,and then proceed stepwise... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! dilip ranade <dilipdsr wrote: Dear Anurodh, 1. I checked the chart and the position of the moon in the 151 no chart does not show the relation of the moon with 5th or 11 cusp i,e children and marriage or related cusps. 2. In my opinion one should re cast the chart at some other time and praceed further, if the position of the moon confirms the relation of qn and moon position in the new chart. 3. In the present case one not proceed further. 4. This opinion is debatable. With best wishes Ranade --- Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear list, I am giving a case on which I need the comments on my findings: The question has been asked by the mother of my friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's younger sister) The question details are: No. 151 Divination details:. 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, 80.56 e) I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of saturn-R. The running preiod is of venus which is in the star of moon. Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl is 31y plus age. She is MCA. The family is highly frustrated and have done all sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the different astrologers and pandits but nothing has happened till date. Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life of this girl. I am waiting eagerly. Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Dear Anurodh kumar, As I see it, the basic question you have posed is- whether marriage is promised or not ? And this has to be examined in context where the 7th cuspal sub is in RETRO-PLANET’S STAR. Since the mother has put the question, we take 5th as the daughter’s Asc. And examine the matter. The 7th cusp sub Sat. is in its own star and Sat is RETROGRADE. Therefore the point that needs clarification is- when the cuspal sub is in retro planet’s star , the matter is delayed or denied ? Late Shri Hasbe-who was considered as KP Guruji in Maharashtra, has , while elaborating on marriage,stated that when 7th cusp sub is in direct (margi) planet’s star and signifies 2nd,7th and 11th, marriage is promised. Another prominent kp author-Shri Gondhalekar,however, writes that retro planet’s rules do not apply and they do give results during transits.Therefore, the learned members need throw light on this aspect and clarify for the guidance of all. All this apart, I observe from the horary chart, that Sat’s aspect to 7th and 7th sub Sat being in Moon star, has delayed the marriage but marriage is not denied. Hansraj. --- Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: > Dear list, > I am giving a case on which I need the comments on > my findings: > The question has been asked by the mother of my > friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's > younger sister) > > The question details are: > No. 151 > > Divination details:. > > 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, > 80.56 e) > > I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). > The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of saturn-R. > The running preiod is of venus which is in the star > of moon. > > Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl is > 31y plus age. She is MCA. > > The family is highly frustrated and have done all > sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the > different astrologers and pandits but nothing has > happened till date. > > Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life > of this girl. > I am waiting eagerly. > > > > Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > attachments. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 Resp.Shri Raichurji, I seek your advice as to when we check 1st issue from 5th, second from 7th etc.-in birth chart or horary chart? Hansraj. --- anant raichur <raichurar wrote: > Dear Anurodh Kumar > In a case like this, where some one is asking > question on behalf of some body, the problem of > selecting the house to be taken as an ascendent > becomes a bit complicated. In this case, the Mother > is asking the question re her daughter. The 5th > house can be taken, only if the astologer is sure, > that the daughter is the 1st issue, (no miscarriages > before this), otherwise the answer may not be > correct. > The best course is to get the Horary Number from > the girl herself. > > good luck > > > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: > Dear list, > I am giving a case on which I need the comments on > my findings: > The question has been asked by the mother of my > friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's > younger sister) > > The question details are: > No. 151 > > Divination details:. > > 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, > 80.56 e) > > I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). > The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of saturn-R. > The running preiod is of venus which is in the star > of moon. > > Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl is > 31y plus age. She is MCA. > > The family is highly frustrated and have done all > sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the > different astrologers and pandits but nothing has > happened till date. > > Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life > of this girl. > I am waiting eagerly. > > > > Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > attachments. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 I think ur approach is correct. Here Saturn who is SL of 11th is itself retrogade. and it is in its own star. In such cases...the result period starts after SL Saturn is direct. And since Saturn IS a significator of required houses considering 5th as ASC, marriage is promised. also it is significator of 5th. indicating ...umm..love marriage? But Saturn is in Ruling...so expect lots of delays...expected time is about Jan/Feb 2009. , Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: > > Dear list, > I am giving a case on which I need the comments on my findings: > The question has been asked by the mother of my friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's younger sister) > > The question details are: > No. 151 > > Divination details:. > > 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, 80.56 e) > > I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). > The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of saturn-R. The running preiod is of venus which is in the star of moon. > > Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl is 31y plus age. She is MCA. > > The family is highly frustrated and have done all sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the different astrologers and pandits but nothing has happened till date. > > Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life of this girl. > I am waiting eagerly. > > > > Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 For Both Natal and Horary use 5th for 1st issue, 7th for 2nd 9th for 3rd etc. If one is not sure of the rank, which should allow for miscarriage, one should ask a specific question in Horary. When will I have the next child ?. Then in such case take 5 Good Luck hansraj vyas <hansraj_vyas wrote: Resp.Shri Raichurji, I seek your advice as to when we check 1st issue from 5th, second from 7th etc.-in birth chart or horary chart? Hansraj. --- anant raichur <raichurar wrote: > Dear Anurodh Kumar > In a case like this, where some one is asking > question on behalf of some body, the problem of > selecting the house to be taken as an ascendent > becomes a bit complicated. In this case, the Mother > is asking the question re her daughter. The 5th > house can be taken, only if the astologer is sure, > that the daughter is the 1st issue, (no miscarriages > before this), otherwise the answer may not be > correct. > The best course is to get the Horary Number from > the girl herself. > > good luck > > > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: > Dear list, > I am giving a case on which I need the comments on > my findings: > The question has been asked by the mother of my > friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's > younger sister) > > The question details are: > No. 151 > > Divination details:. > > 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, > 80.56 e) > > I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). > The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of saturn-R. > The running preiod is of venus which is in the star > of moon. > > Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl is > 31y plus age. She is MCA. > > The family is highly frustrated and have done all > sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the > different astrologers and pandits but nothing has > happened till date. > > Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life > of this girl. > I am waiting eagerly. > > > > Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > attachments. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2006 Report Share Posted March 26, 2006 Resp.Raichurji, Thanks for your advice regarding issues and retro.planets. Hansraj. --- anant raichur <raichurar wrote: > For Both Natal and Horary use 5th for 1st issue, 7th > for 2nd 9th for 3rd etc. If one is not sure of the > rank, which should allow for miscarriage, one should > ask a specific question in Horary. When will I have > the next child ?. Then in such case take 5 > Good Luck > > > hansraj vyas <hansraj_vyas wrote: > Resp.Shri Raichurji, > I seek your advice as to when we check 1st issue > from > 5th, second from 7th etc.-in birth chart or horary > chart? Hansraj. > > --- anant raichur <raichurar wrote: > > > Dear Anurodh Kumar > > In a case like this, where some one is asking > > question on behalf of some body, the problem of > > selecting the house to be taken as an ascendent > > becomes a bit complicated. In this case, the > Mother > > is asking the question re her daughter. The 5th > > house can be taken, only if the astologer is sure, > > that the daughter is the 1st issue, (no > miscarriages > > before this), otherwise the answer may not be > > correct. > > The best course is to get the Horary Number from > > the girl herself. > > > > good luck > > > > > > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: > > Dear list, > > I am giving a case on which I need the comments > on > > my findings: > > The question has been asked by the mother of my > > friend for the merriage of her daughter ( friend's > > younger sister) > > > > The question details are: > > No. 151 > > > > Divination details:. > > > > 13.3.2006, Monday, 20.04 hrs, Lucknow (26.51 n, > > 80.56 e) > > > > I have taken the 11 cusp (7h wrt 5h). > > The sub-lord is saturn-R in the star of > saturn-R. > > The running preiod is of venus which is in the > star > > of moon. > > > > Does it shows the denial of merriage. The girl > is > > 31y plus age. She is MCA. > > > > The family is highly frustrated and have done > all > > sorts of poojas and anushthans directed by the > > different astrologers and pandits but nothing has > > happened till date. > > > > Please comment: is it a denial of merriage in life > > of this girl. > > I am waiting eagerly. > > > > > > > > Mail > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying > > attachments. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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