Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 I've created a folder called " San Francisco 1906 " in the file area. It contains several .jpgs of ingresses for the San Francisco quake and fire of 1906. The longitudes are all in terms of the F-B ayanamsa, even though the calculations of the Krishnamurti ingresses were done with the K ayanamsa. Solar Fire doesn't allow charts with two different ayanamsas to be pulled up in the same run; so all these are in F-B to allow the side-by-side comparisons. The 1906 CapSolar, AriSolar, and CapLunar ingresses are shown on two wheels side by side for easy comparison. The mean Q1 quotidians of the CapSolar are shown on bi-wheels with the quake chart, cusps are from the inner wheel, the quotidian. For some good first-hand accounts of the period, check out www.sfmuseum.org/1906/06.html. The Quake/Fire chart is dramatic in itself, with the T-square Uranus- Neptune-Mercury in the foreground. Saturn trine-sextiles into the opposition; Venus the same, a little more widely; Venus sextiles Saturn by less than two degrees. Even Jupiter gets involved in the T-square by quincunx and semi-sextile. So where's the Fire? Well, Mars semi-squares all three planets of the T-square with less than one degree orb. The fire burned for four days, so it is not a small part of the event. Both the F-B and the K CapSolar ingress charts point to an event in different ways. The F-B ingress shows an applying Moon-Mars opposition in the foreground, certainly appropriate planetary symbolism. Jupiter is bodily about five degrees below the DESC, square Saturn, which in turn squares the ASC under two degrees. Jupiter-Saturn aspects often point to financial stresses, definitely the case after the quake/fire. Venus semi- squares both Saturn and the ASC; SA/ASC = 22 Sag 49. Mercury sextiles Saturn. The Uranus-Neptune opposition is background; ME/NE = 11 Vir 57 squared by Uranus. The K CapSolar shows Pluto nine degrees above the DESC in longitude, but nearly thirteen degrees above in body. Mars closely squares the ASC. Moon applies to oppose Saturn. Mercury squares the MC. Both AriSolar ingresses have similar angles with Mercury at the IC in T-square with Uranus- Neptune. Venus trines-sextiles the opposition. Pluto is longitudinally on the DESC, though it had already bodily set. Venus applies to sextile Saturn; in the F-B ingress VE/SA = 16 Pis 06; in the K ingress VE/SA = 15 Pis 26 = Mercury exactly. In the F-B ingress, Moon applies a little widely to conjoin Uranus and oppose Neptune. In the K ingress, Moon closely opposes the angular Pluto. (I like the Moon-Pluto.) Going on to the CapLunar ingresses, where the angles will *not* have the similarity of solar ingresses, we see the F-B emphasizes the T-square with the Uranus- Neptune opposition right on the horizon; Saturn trine-sextile. The K CapLunar has the Moon's Nodes at either end of the Meridian; Saturn squares the ASC. The K JU/PL = 20 Tau 16 = ASC. Finally we can look at the mean quotidian Q1 progressions of the CapSolar to the event. In the K CapSolar Q1, Moon has progressed to oppose ingress Saturn; transit Moon conjoins ingress Saturn, opposes Q1 Moon. Q1 ASC squares ingress Uranus closely. Q1 Mercury, sextiling ingress Saturn, is close to the MC, though bodily three degrees off. So we have the Q1 Moon-Saturn opposition trine-sextile a foreground Mercury. The F-B CapSolar Q1 shows angular Moon opposing Mars, Pluto at IC. Bodily Moon is 2 degrees 6 minutes above the DESC; Q1 Mars is 1 degree 15 minutes below the ASC; Pluto is 2 degrees 29 minutes west of the IC, as measured in Prime Vertical longitudes. LST/RAMC of the Mean Q1 is 17:17:29; Q1 Mars rises with 17:23:51; Q1 Moon sets with 17:28:09; Q1 Pluto crosses IC with 17:23:43. So we have a close paran Mars-Pluto in body. Transit Saturn rises with 17:21:25 (equates to longitude of 20 Aqu 52); transit Pluto to IC with 17:23:14. Thus the F-B mean Q1 shows Moon, Mars, Pluto, and transit Saturn- Pluto. Since the increase in mean Q1 Local Sidereal Time (LST/RAMC) is approximately 3 min 56.6 seconds per day, the timing of these angular hits *in body* would be within 2-3 days. Not bad for an event of this magnitude. BTW, hand calculation of the Apparent Q1 gives an LST/RAMC of 17:07:57, ASC 15 Aq 32, MC 24 Sco 36. In summary, I think we can debate the appropriateness of ingress charts calculated with either ayanamsa, especially the solar ingresses. Both ayanamsas score points. But I think we need to remember that Bradley refined the F-B ayanamsa using quotidians and lunar ingresses. Lunar ingresses will show about a two hour difference in LST and thus on the angles. Sidereally yours, Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Hi Matthew, Your long S.F. post just came into my mailbox, and I want to thank you for the comparison. It's too late tonight for me to study the charts, but I'll be looking at them tomorrow. The one point I'd like to make for myself is that I have only used the ingress directly before each quake--that is one chart out of 12 monthly charts. I'm not sure (and this is only my own opinion) that I'd give any special emphasis to the Capsolar or any other cardinal ingress unless it was the ingress directly before the quake. In other words, as I've been studying quakes, I'd only use the preceding ingress since I can't track all the significant events for any locale for a 12 month period. In this way I don't agree with the notion of giving supreme importance to the Capsolar. So I've never looked at K cardinal ingresses unless they were the ingresses in the month preceding the quake. So I'll be especially interested in your F-B and K comparison. What I did note in using these monthly ingress charts is an automatic tie-in between the K ingress and the quake charts. This is why I've posted the quake and ingress charts. Sorry they're not very clear. We're still trying to work out the scanning technique. I will probably have to use computer printed charts since hand drawn charts don't seem to transfer very clearly. It's O.K. that you use only F-B longitudes. I have the same problem with my software and set all the charts up in K longitudes. I ran the F-B monthly ingress charts for a number of quakes. Sincerely, Therese At 03:54 AM 1/23/04 -0000, Matthew wrote: >I've created a folder called " San Francisco 1906 " in the file area. >It contains several .jpgs of >ingresses for the San Francisco quake and fire of 1906. The >longitudes are all in terms of the F-B >ayanamsa, even though the calculations of the Krishnamurti ingresses >were done with the K >ayanamsa. Solar Fire doesn't allow charts with two different >ayanamsas to be pulled up in the >same run; so all these are in F-B to allow the side-by-side >comparisons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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