Bomb attacks in Madrid

[Guest guest]

At 04:13 PM 3/11/04 +0100, Pingo wrote:

 

Hi List,

Today, there were 4 bomb attacks in trains in Madrid causing 180 people dead

and more than 700 injured. All attacks occurred between 7.35 and 7.55AM

local time. Casting a chart for Madrid(40N24,3W41) at 7.35AM , I get the

Sun strongly conjunct the ascendant in hard aspect to culminating Pluto.

Below is a link between the transit chart and the Capsolar ingress for

Madrid.

 

Hi Pingo,

 

Thanks for posting the F-B positions. This is much better than posting the

K longitudes equated to F-B, which I have to do. Here is my (no doubt

expected!) reply.

 

Yes, there's no doubt that the planetary configuration for the chart of the

initial bombing is culminating Pluto square the Sun on the Ascendant at

Madrid. Equally important is the quincinx of Mars to the MC and Pluto.

(There might be a midpoint here because the degree of Mars falls just

between Pluto and the MC. Mars is at 28 44 Aries.

 

Although I generally turn a questioning eye to the idea that the Capsolar

is a 'birth' chart that applies to the entire year, I set up the

Krishnamurti Capsolar to compare the transits to those you pointed out. (I

haven't researched the Capsolar as yet, but have printed out Matthew's

charts posted in the files section.)

 

So, Pingo, did you take a look at the K Capsolar? See how it fits with the

event chart below: (Admittedly, this might be a one shot 'lucky' chart match.)

 

F-B Capsolar: Transit chart: K Capsolar:

(In F-B long.)

--------------------------

Sun: 00Cap00 Sun: 26Aqu14--> MC 23 Aqu Jup 24 Leo

Moon: 05Lib29 Moon: 22Lib00 Moon 22 Vir (**Mars 23 Pis)

Mercury: 06Sag14 Merc: 02Pis59 (opp Moon)

Venus: 06Aqu18 Venus: 11Ari16

Mars: 23Pis22 Mars: 28Ari46

 

Jupiter: 23Leo54 Jup: 18Leo15

Saturn: 13Gem47 Sat: 11Gem30

Uranus: 05Aqu56 Uranus: 09Aqu02

Neptune: 17Cap24 Neptune: 19Cap26

Pluto: 26Sco13 Pluto: 27Sco24--> MC 23 Aqu (sq Pluto)

 

AC: 03Gem08 ASC: 25Aqu26--> MC 23 Aqu Jup 24 Leo

MC: 09Aqu26 MC: 29Sco59

DC: 03Sag08 DEC: 25Leo26--> IC 23 Leo Jup 24 Leo

IC: 09Leo26 IC: 29Tau59

 

These are the same kind of contacts that show up in the K ingress/event

quake charts.

In addition in the K CapSolar:

 

Saturn is right on the K Ingress Asc: (K long: Asc 15 24 Gem; Sat 14 50 Gem)

 

Jupiter is at the IC and in quincunx aspect to Mars, which is in a one

degree opposition to the Moon.

 

The angular stress aspect in the K CapSolar is the MC anchored

Jupiter-Pluto square (Jupiter conjoins the IC.) The Mars-Moon opposition

ties into this because Mars and Jupiter are in close quincunx aspect to

each other.

 

Transit Sun just passes the Ingress MC and squares ingress Pluto and....the

fatal bomb attacks happen. (Sun has a 3 minute orb to Ingress Pluto.) The

main point here is that ingress Pluto is square ingress MC and square

Jupiter, the primary stress aspect of the ingress chart (aside from Moon

opposite Mars).

 

The Moon is in partile semi-sextile to Ketu in the K ingress chart. When

the Moon came around to conjoin Ketu almost a month later, Mars was

conjoined Rahu and quincunx culminating Pluto in the Bombing chart.

 

There's too much here to be ingnored, I believe. It's time to take a

serious look at an ayanamsa close to Krishnamurti, if not that exact

ayanamsa itself. Rich Houck (who seemed to always hit political predictions

right on, used a slightly different ayanamsa (about half a minute from K.)

 

Pingo wrote: One can see that:

 

Transit Sun opposite Capsolar Jupiter

[TH: and Jupiter is on the K Ingress IC)

 

Transit Sun, transit AC square Capsolar Pluto

[TH: and K Ingress Pluto is square the Ingress MC]

 

Transit Uranus conjunct Capsolar MC (orb 24'48.88 " applying )

[TH: Yes, this is a F-B hit. Uranus is nowhere in particular in the K chart.]

 

Transit DC conjunct Capsolar Jupiter (orb 1°32'56 " separating)

[TH: Jupiter is at the IC of the K ingress chart.]

 

Transit Moon opposite Capsolar Rahu (near exact)

[TH: conjunct Ketu, that is. And Ketu...is quincunx the MC in the K Ingress

(45 minute orb)]

 

Transit Mercury square Capsolar 1st/7th axis.

[TH: Good F-B hit! (Since transit Mercury is square the transit MC)]

 

So there will probably be 'hits' between ingress and transit charts no

matter what ayanamsa is used. As Bradley said, you can get quite convincing

configurations even with a completely bogus ayanamsa. So the question

remains the same: Where do we find consistency between ingress and event

charts over a large number of charts? Where to look except to the Moon and

the angles if we're comparing ingress charts?

 

Note that as in the earthquake charts, the now very familiar quincunx shows

up in the bombing charts. In India the quinxunx (8th house aspect) is said

to be of the nature of Mars.

 

There's been an interesting discussion on the YoungAstro list about the

quincunx, with some people saying that they've noted this aspect to be so

important that they now call it a major aspect and give it wider orbs than

is customary. This is what I've found in the quake charts. This Martian

aspect is invariably in major quake charts as well as the monthly ingress

charts preceding the quakes.

 

And the quinxunx is also here in the K CapSolar (Jup at the IC qcx Mars,

Moon qcx MC) and in the bombing chart: Mars qcx culminating Pluto and

Neptune qcx Jupiter. Jupiter is widely at the Desc. In the event chart,

it's the planet 8 signs away from the angle that gives the quincunx.

(Neptune and Mars)

 

As an astrologer who comes from Jyotish, I'm not accustomed to using the

quincunx except for Mars--a view I've been having to change.

 

The K CapSolar and Event charts are posted in the files section:

 

Madrid%2011%20Mar%200

4%20Bombing/

 

Sincerely,

Therese

[Guest guest]

Hi Therese,

Since I do these charts at work during my break time, I am unable to do

the same using the KP ayanamsha(I used Aldebaran which has FB as a

default). On the other hand I do not expect to see a difference in the

position of Angles in the Capsolar since FB and KP ayanamsha differ by

almost one degree. That is why we should have a look at the Caplunar in

order to decide which one is better. I will post the data of the

Caplunar once I have a litle bit time.

Cheers,

Pingo

 

 

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 09:59 AM 3/12/04 +0100, Pingo wrote:

>Hi Therese,

>Since I do these charts at work during my break time, I am unable to do

>the same using the KP ayanamsha(I used Aldebaran which has FB as a

>default).

 

That's O.K. Pingo! I'm very happy to see the F-B positions in their own

zodiac, and then I can post the K planets in their own zodiac too.

 

>On the other hand I do not expect to see a difference in the

>position of Angles in the Capsolar since FB and KP ayanamsha differ by

>almost one degree.

 

There is quite a difference, however, 9 degrees in the Madrid bombing

chart. That's enough to throw planets off the angles in one chart or the

other. This is a big difference when comparing ingress to quake charts.

 

>That is why we should have a look at the Caplunar in

>order to decide which one is better. I will post the data of the

>Caplunar once I have a litle bit time.

 

Looking at *one* CapLunar won't tell us much. Like the solar ingress

charts, they need to be looked at in batches of similar events. I don't

have a lot of faith in the CapLunar, because the Moon's motion is so fast

and the Moon has latitude. I'd expect the solar ingress charts to be more

powerful because the Sun is always exactly on the ecliptic, and it's the

Sun's motion that defines the zodiac (from our point of view here on earth).

 

Now the phases of the Moon--they're different as they are an astronomical

phenomenon not related to signs of the zodiac.

 

So if you want to look at the Caplunars, why not do a group of them for the

solar ingress quake charts posted in the files section? Then all the

Caplunars have to be studied beside the event charts, at least initially

without reference to the solar ingress charts.

 

The times of the following quakes are posted in the 'Earthquake Charts'

folder in the files section: (Matthew has separate posts for some of these

quakes.)

 

Izmit, Turkey

Kobe, Japan

San Francisco 1906

New Madrid (4 charts)

India 2001

Kanto, Japan

 

This would be a start. If you have time to compute those six F-B Caplunars,

I will follow up with the K charts.

 

Sincerely,

Therese

[Guest guest]

Hi Therese,

Here are the positions of the FB last Caplunar(17.2.2004) preceding

the event.

AC:27LEO36,MC26TAU26,DC27AQU36,IC:26SCO26,Pluto is exactly conjunct

the IC and Jupiter has already risen in the foreground.Moreover

transiting Sun and Pluto just activate the Caplunar angles at the

time of event.

 

The K last Caplunar gave the following:

AC:8LEO56,MC:4TAU,DC:8AQU56,IC:4SCO,Uranus is exactly conjunct the

7th cusp and Pluto and Jupiter are far from the Angles.

I think that this quick comparison speaks in favor of FB ayanamsha.

I hope I have enough time in order check the quake charts.

Cheers,

 

Pingo

[Guest guest]

At 07:56 PM 3/12/04 -0000, Pingo wrote:

 

>Here are the positions of the FB last Caplunar(17.2.2004) preceding

>the event.

>AC:27LEO36,MC26TAU26,DC27AQU36,IC:26SCO26,Pluto is exactly conjunct

>the IC and Jupiter has already risen in the foreground.Moreover

>transiting Sun and Pluto just activate the Caplunar angles at the

>time of event.

 

Pingo,

 

This is very good, especially the match of the Caplunar and event angles!

 

The K Caplunar has Sun-Uranus on either side of the Desc, but this doesn't

match the event chart.

 

Score a big one for the Fagan-Bradley Caplunar! Now let's look at the six

quake Caplunars. If you calculate the F-B charts, I'll post the K charts.

 

I posted the two Caplunars (along with the event chart) in the Madrid

Bombing folder.

 

Madrid%2011%20Mar%200

4%20Bombing/

 

Sincerely,

 

Therese

[Guest guest]

Hi Therese,

 

Inspired by one of Matthew's articles I did the following on SF5.

Using the CapSolar for Washington, DC in 2001 I had the following

data:

Fagan-Allen - Jan. 14/01 3:32:14 pm

Krishnamurti - Jan. 13/01 4:26:24 pm

Lahiri - Jan. 13/01 6:42:58 pm

 

I ran solar maps for each of these charts and it looked like

Krishnamurti had an interesting MA/UR right on the northern border of

Afghanistan, around where the US troops congregated with the Northern

Alliance in that year. With Fagan-Allen (is this the same as FB?),

there were 2 lines crossing through Afghanistan NEP-IC and MER-IC.

With Lahiri, there was a PL/MO line crossing on the NW border of

Afghanistan.

I did a similar CapSolar for 2003 in Washington, DC to see if there

was any activitity in Iraq. Here is the data:

Fagan-Allen - Jan. 15/03 3:45:54 am

Krisnamurti - Jan. 14/03 4:40:04 am

Lahiri - Jan. 14/03 6:56 am

 

The Solar maps showed Krishamurti with no lines crossing Iraq,

but had a MAR/NEP crossing to the east of Baghdad in the middle of

Iran. Fagan-Allen had a MER-MC line running through Iraq. Lahiri had

a SAT-ASC line running almost right through Baghdad. In addition,

with Lahiri, Iraq was boxed in by a UR-MC line on the left and a

PL-DSC line on the right.

 

Don't know if any of these results meaning anything or if I set

these things up right, but might be worthy of further study...

Unfortunately, I do not know of a way to set up a user-defined

ayanamsa on SF5 to test the Houck one.

 

regards,

Dietmar

 

, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest@s...> wrote:

> At 04:13 PM 3/11/04 +0100, Pingo wrote:

>

> Hi List,

> Today, there were 4 bomb attacks in trains in Madrid causing 180

people dead

> and more than 700 injured. All attacks occurred between 7.35 and

7.55AM

> local time. Casting a chart for Madrid(40N24,3W41) at 7.35AM , I

get the

> Sun strongly conjunct the ascendant in hard aspect to culminating

Pluto.

> Below is a link between the transit chart and the Capsolar

ingress for

> Madrid.

>

> Hi Pingo,

>

> Thanks for posting the F-B positions. This is much better than

posting the

> K longitudes equated to F-B, which I have to do. Here is my (no

doubt

> expected!) reply.

>

> Yes, there's no doubt that the planetary configuration for the

chart of the

> initial bombing is culminating Pluto square the Sun on the

Ascendant at

> Madrid. Equally important is the quincinx of Mars to the MC and

Pluto.

> (There might be a midpoint here because the degree of Mars falls

just

> between Pluto and the MC. Mars is at 28 44 Aries.

>

> Although I generally turn a questioning eye to the idea that the

Capsolar

> is a 'birth' chart that applies to the entire year, I set up the

> Krishnamurti Capsolar to compare the transits to those you pointed

out. (I

> haven't researched the Capsolar as yet, but have printed out

Matthew's

> charts posted in the files section.)

>

> So, Pingo, did you take a look at the K Capsolar? See how it fits

with the

> event chart below: (Admittedly, this might be a one shot 'lucky'

chart match.)

>

> F-B Capsolar: Transit chart: K Capsolar:

> (In F-B long.)

 

> --------------------------

> Sun: 00Cap00 Sun: 26Aqu14--> MC 23 Aqu Jup 24 Leo

> Moon: 05Lib29 Moon: 22Lib00 Moon 22 Vir (**Mars 23

Pis)

> Mercury: 06Sag14 Merc: 02Pis59 (opp Moon)

> Venus: 06Aqu18 Venus: 11Ari16

> Mars: 23Pis22 Mars: 28Ari46

>

> Jupiter: 23Leo54 Jup: 18Leo15

> Saturn: 13Gem47 Sat: 11Gem30

> Uranus: 05Aqu56 Uranus: 09Aqu02

> Neptune: 17Cap24 Neptune: 19Cap26

> Pluto: 26Sco13 Pluto: 27Sco24--> MC 23 Aqu (sq Pluto)

>

> AC: 03Gem08 ASC: 25Aqu26--> MC 23 Aqu Jup 24 Leo

> MC: 09Aqu26 MC: 29Sco59

> DC: 03Sag08 DEC: 25Leo26--> IC 23 Leo Jup 24 Leo

> IC: 09Leo26 IC: 29Tau59

>

> These are the same kind of contacts that show up in the K

ingress/event

> quake charts.

> In addition in the K CapSolar:

>

> Saturn is right on the K Ingress Asc: (K long: Asc 15 24 Gem; Sat

14 50 Gem)

>

> Jupiter is at the IC and in quincunx aspect to Mars, which is in a

one

> degree opposition to the Moon.

>

> The angular stress aspect in the K CapSolar is the MC anchored

> Jupiter-Pluto square (Jupiter conjoins the IC.) The Mars-Moon

opposition

> ties into this because Mars and Jupiter are in close quincunx

aspect to

> each other.

>

> Transit Sun just passes the Ingress MC and squares ingress Pluto

and....the

> fatal bomb attacks happen. (Sun has a 3 minute orb to Ingress

Pluto.) The

> main point here is that ingress Pluto is square ingress MC and

square

> Jupiter, the primary stress aspect of the ingress chart (aside from

Moon

> opposite Mars).

>

> The Moon is in partile semi-sextile to Ketu in the K ingress chart.

When

> the Moon came around to conjoin Ketu almost a month later, Mars was

> conjoined Rahu and quincunx culminating Pluto in the Bombing chart.

>

> There's too much here to be ingnored, I believe. It's time to take a

> serious look at an ayanamsa close to Krishnamurti, if not that exact

> ayanamsa itself. Rich Houck (who seemed to always hit political

predictions

> right on, used a slightly different ayanamsa (about half a minute

from K.)

>

> Pingo wrote: One can see that:

>

> Transit Sun opposite Capsolar Jupiter

> [TH: and Jupiter is on the K Ingress IC)

>

> Transit Sun, transit AC square Capsolar Pluto

> [TH: and K Ingress Pluto is square the Ingress MC]

>

> Transit Uranus conjunct Capsolar MC (orb 24'48.88 " applying )

> [TH: Yes, this is a F-B hit. Uranus is nowhere in particular in the

K chart.]

>

> Transit DC conjunct Capsolar Jupiter (orb 1°32'56 " separating)

> [TH: Jupiter is at the IC of the K ingress chart.]

>

> Transit Moon opposite Capsolar Rahu (near exact)

> [TH: conjunct Ketu, that is. And Ketu...is quincunx the MC in the K

Ingress

> (45 minute orb)]

>

> Transit Mercury square Capsolar 1st/7th axis.

> [TH: Good F-B hit! (Since transit Mercury is square the transit MC)]

>

> So there will probably be 'hits' between ingress and transit charts

no

> matter what ayanamsa is used. As Bradley said, you can get quite

convincing

> configurations even with a completely bogus ayanamsa. So the

question

> remains the same: Where do we find consistency between ingress and

event

> charts over a large number of charts? Where to look except to the

Moon and

> the angles if we're comparing ingress charts?

>

> Note that as in the earthquake charts, the now very familiar

quincunx shows

> up in the bombing charts. In India the quinxunx (8th house aspect)

is said

> to be of the nature of Mars.

>

> There's been an interesting discussion on the YoungAstro list about

the

> quincunx, with some people saying that they've noted this aspect to

be so

> important that they now call it a major aspect and give it wider

orbs than

> is customary. This is what I've found in the quake charts. This

Martian

> aspect is invariably in major quake charts as well as the monthly

ingress

> charts preceding the quakes.

>

> And the quinxunx is also here in the K CapSolar (Jup at the IC qcx

Mars,

> Moon qcx MC) and in the bombing chart: Mars qcx culminating Pluto

and

> Neptune qcx Jupiter. Jupiter is widely at the Desc. In the event

chart,

> it's the planet 8 signs away from the angle that gives the quincunx.

> (Neptune and Mars)

>

> As an astrologer who comes from Jyotish, I'm not accustomed to

using the

> quincunx except for Mars--a view I've been having to change.

>

> The K CapSolar and Event charts are posted in the files section:

>

> Madrid%2011%

20Mar%200

> 4%20Bombing/

>

> Sincerely,

> Therese

[Guest guest]

Hi Dietmar,

 

Thanks for your work on these charts. I'm not very familiar with Solar Maps

as yet--I mean I haven't used it very often since I only recently purchased

Solar Fire.

 

Question: Are you giving the map lines more importance than the actual

planets in the charts at the time of the Ingress?

 

Yes, Fagan-Allen is the same as F-B (Fagan-Bradley). I think Houck would be

so close to K that it wouldn't matter much. There's only about half a

minute's difference beween them. It's a matter for final precise

rectification, and we're still looking at F-B, Lahiri and K.

 

I'll check out the charts a bit later as soon as I have time.

 

Thanks again,

Therese

 

At 10:35 PM 3/13/04 -0000, you wrote:

>Hi Therese,

>

> Inspired by one of Matthew's articles I did the following on SF5.

>Using the CapSolar for Washington, DC in 2001 I had the following

>data:

>Fagan-Allen - Jan. 14/01 3:32:14 pm

>Krishnamurti - Jan. 13/01 4:26:24 pm

>Lahiri - Jan. 13/01 6:42:58 pm

>

> I ran solar maps for each of these charts and it looked like

>Krishnamurti had an interesting MA/UR right on the northern border of

>Afghanistan, around where the US troops congregated with the Northern

>Alliance in that year. With Fagan-Allen (is this the same as FB?),

>there were 2 lines crossing through Afghanistan NEP-IC and MER-IC.

>With Lahiri, there was a PL/MO line crossing on the NW border of

>Afghanistan.

> I did a similar CapSolar for 2003 in Washington, DC to see if there

>was any activitity in Iraq. Here is the data:

>Fagan-Allen - Jan. 15/03 3:45:54 am

>Krisnamurti - Jan. 14/03 4:40:04 am

>Lahiri - Jan. 14/03 6:56 am

>

> The Solar maps showed Krishamurti with no lines crossing Iraq,

>but had a MAR/NEP crossing to the east of Baghdad in the middle of

>Iran. Fagan-Allen had a MER-MC line running through Iraq. Lahiri had

>a SAT-ASC line running almost right through Baghdad. In addition,

>with Lahiri, Iraq was boxed in by a UR-MC line on the left and a

>PL-DSC line on the right.

>

> Don't know if any of these results meaning anything or if I set

>these things up right, but might be worthy of further study...

>Unfortunately, I do not know of a way to set up a user-defined

>ayanamsa on SF5 to test the Houck one.

>

>regards,

>Dietmar

>

> , Therese Hamilton

><eastwest@s...> wrote:

>> At 04:13 PM 3/11/04 +0100, Pingo wrote:

>>

>> Hi List,

>> Today, there were 4 bomb attacks in trains in Madrid causing 180

>people dead

[Guest guest]

Hi Therese,

 

I am using them more as an added confirmation of what is happening

with the CapSolar chart. For instance it is a further confirmation of

the Krishnamurti chart for the Madrid bombing that the SAT-ASC line

appears to be going exactly through Madrid itself, though in the

CapSolar chart it is a few degrees off from the ascendant. In that

chart, Saturn happens to be 8th lord, so that is quite a hit, as well

as t.SU (ruler of the 3rd - travel?) exactly squaring that Pluto

which others mentioned previously.

But as I found out later this turns out to an inconclusive way of

confirming which ayanamsa is right. Casting the CapSolar for the

Hiroshima atomic bomb event, it seems that Lahiri appears to be most

devestating chart with the nodes right on the MC-IC axis and the

nodal axis of course would be passing very close to Hiroshima. The

transits show 6th lord Saturn (ruling enemies?) and the Moon

conjuncting Rahu within 20' or so. As well t.Ma (8th lord) was

conjuncting natal Uranus.

I suppose there are many other things one could look at with Solar

Maps to get a better picture. For example as Jim Lewis advocated,

planetary crossings that lie roughly on the same latitude as the city

in question, i.e. having a MA/UR crossing I believe would normally

not considered being helpful! Need to tinker more with this...

Sorry to hear about your run in with the Hammer of ****!

 

regards,

Dietmar

, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest@s...> wrote:

> Hi Dietmar,

>

> Thanks for your work on these charts. I'm not very familiar with

Solar Maps

> as yet--I mean I haven't used it very often since I only recently

purchased

> Solar Fire.

>

> Question: Are you giving the map lines more importance than the

actual

> planets in the charts at the time of the Ingress?

>

> Yes, Fagan-Allen is the same as F-B (Fagan-Bradley). I think Houck

would be

> so close to K that it wouldn't matter much. There's only about half

a

> minute's difference beween them. It's a matter for final precise

> rectification, and we're still looking at F-B, Lahiri and K.

>

> I'll check out the charts a bit later as soon as I have time.

>

> Thanks again,

> Therese

>

> At 10:35 PM 3/13/04 -0000, you wrote:

> >Hi Therese,

> >

> > Inspired by one of Matthew's articles I did the following on

SF5.

> >Using the CapSolar for Washington, DC in 2001 I had the following

> >data:

> >Fagan-Allen - Jan. 14/01 3:32:14 pm

> >Krishnamurti - Jan. 13/01 4:26:24 pm

> >Lahiri - Jan. 13/01 6:42:58 pm

> >

> > I ran solar maps for each of these charts and it looked like

> >Krishnamurti had an interesting MA/UR right on the northern border

of

> >Afghanistan, around where the US troops congregated with the

Northern

> >Alliance in that year. With Fagan-Allen (is this the same as FB?),

> >there were 2 lines crossing through Afghanistan NEP-IC and MER-IC.

> >With Lahiri, there was a PL/MO line crossing on the NW border of

> >Afghanistan.

> > I did a similar CapSolar for 2003 in Washington, DC to see if

there

> >was any activitity in Iraq. Here is the data:

> >Fagan-Allen - Jan. 15/03 3:45:54 am

> >Krisnamurti - Jan. 14/03 4:40:04 am

> >Lahiri - Jan. 14/03 6:56 am

> >

> > The Solar maps showed Krishamurti with no lines crossing Iraq,

> >but had a MAR/NEP crossing to the east of Baghdad in the middle of

> >Iran. Fagan-Allen had a MER-MC line running through Iraq. Lahiri

had

> >a SAT-ASC line running almost right through Baghdad. In addition,

> >with Lahiri, Iraq was boxed in by a UR-MC line on the left and a

> >PL-DSC line on the right.

> >

> > Don't know if any of these results meaning anything or if I set

> >these things up right, but might be worthy of further study...

> >Unfortunately, I do not know of a way to set up a user-defined

> >ayanamsa on SF5 to test the Houck one.

> >

> >regards,

> >Dietmar

> >

> > , Therese Hamilton

> ><eastwest@s...> wrote:

> >> At 04:13 PM 3/11/04 +0100, Pingo wrote:

> >>

> >> Hi List,

> >> Today, there were 4 bomb attacks in trains in Madrid causing 180

> >people dead