Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Hi Bettina, In this matter I am not sure you gave the right advise concerning Maya to leave her husband, if she is not sure about him. That is why she asked a chart. I do not have the impression he is cheating her.He is even trying to drop his son to get him more independent. Although this might be a different case, it happened in my neighbourhood, that an ex-wive tried to spoil the new relation of her ex husband.Once she succeeded in it, she bounced her frontdoor on his nose (he returned to her to protect his child against the mother's badly treatment),with the cry she does not want him anymore. It occured in my neighbourhood. The girl was only three years old. To help Maya needs far more time than what we have in this group to work well as she needs now. In your mode of work, Uranus is in VII, but I have Uranus in VI (Meridean Houses)so it is not certain that the husband is being unfaithful.He might be a technician. Regards, Anny Message: 1 Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:02:05 -0700 " Bettina " <chiria RE: Re: Help in Astrology Dear Maya ... This is just me and has nothing to do with astrology. If your husband is having problems, you should stand by him. All marriages have highs and lows and as long as he's not doing anything deleberately (or because he doesn't care enough not to) to make you miserable (like cheating or beating), see it through. .... Bettina orient_41 [orient_41] Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:41 AM Re: Help in Astrology Dear Bettina, There is no volience of any measure in my relationship. All the negativity is coming from his ex and his eldest son. There is a business relationship with his eldest son which is difficult to get rid of immediately. He is trying to be reasonable with this person but he is becoming difficult to deal with. My husband and I believe that these people should get their own life and he knows that their negative influence is ruining our relationship. Thanks for listening, maya , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> wrote: > Dear Maya ... > > > Only you (and your husband) can determine that. It's a matter of free will. > It's like the old Dear Abby (or Ann Landers, I forget which) question, " Are > you better off with him or without him? " > > The strongest connection btween your two charts is his Mars on your Venus > and Moon, which shows a strong physical attraction (at least at the > beginning). > > If he is violent, I'd say leave. If not, try counselling. > > > ... Bettina > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > Hello Again, > > Is is possible to look into my chart to see whether my current > marriage will go into a divorce. > born on 12th March, 1959 at 2:30 p.m. Melaka, Malaysia. > > Thanks alot, > Maya > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > wrote: > > I don't like to say much about a person's chart unless that person > has asked > > me him/herself, unless it's a child and the parent wants some kind > of > > guidance on raising them or what their strengths or weaknesses > might be. > > > > I will say that your husband has a problematic Moon and also some > > afflictions to Venus. So, he'd have problems with women. Also, > Uranus in > > 7th house often points to divorce. > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:51 AM > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > This is my husband's. Currently we are going through a very > difficult > > period. I am thinking about going for a divorce due to his ex and > her > > lawyers. > > > > maya > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > wrote: > > > Is this yours or somebody elses? > > > > > > > > > ...Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > Monday, June 07, 2004 8:30 PM > > > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > Dear Bettina, > > > > > > Sorry to get back to you so late. > > > > > > Here is the latitude and longitude of Brooklyn, New York. > > > 40 degrees, 42 minutes, 51 seconds N latitude, and 74 degrees, 0 > > > minutes 23 seconds W longitude. > > > > > > Maya > > > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > > wrote: > > > > I went to look up Brooklyn and there were a whole lot of > > > Brooklyns. Which B > > > > would it be? Or do you have the L & L for where you were born? > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > > Monday, May 24, 2004 11:23 AM > > > > > > > > Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > born on 15th April, 1949, in Brooklyn, New York at 12:33 a.m. > > > > > > > > If anyone can analyze this chart would be much appreciated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to > Antares? " - > > -- > > > -- > > > > > > > > Post message: > > > > Subscribe: - > > > > Un: - > > > > List owner: -owner > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > > / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Dear Anny ... I told her to stay with him because I think people should give marriage their best shot. I think it's sad when people give up as soon as a problem arises. I believe that a person should only leave the partner if the partner is abusive, or just doesn't give a damn about working things out. I would never put myself in the position of telling someone whether or not there was going to be a divorce in their future. That's one reason I'll never be a professional astrologer. People want to know the future, and I believe they should work through their problems to the best of their ability. I think it was the husband who had the Uranus in 7th, and he has been divorced before this marriage. I also had the feeling that his ex would be very happy to see this marriage fail. .... Bettina Anny van Berckel [avbdk] Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:02 PM RE: Digest Number 820 Hi Bettina, In this matter I am not sure you gave the right advise concerning Maya to leave her husband, if she is not sure about him. That is why she asked a chart. I do not have the impression he is cheating her.He is even trying to drop his son to get him more independent. Although this might be a different case, it happened in my neighbourhood, that an ex-wive tried to spoil the new relation of her ex husband.Once she succeeded in it, she bounced her frontdoor on his nose (he returned to her to protect his child against the mother's badly treatment),with the cry she does not want him anymore. It occured in my neighbourhood. The girl was only three years old. To help Maya needs far more time than what we have in this group to work well as she needs now. In your mode of work, Uranus is in VII, but I have Uranus in VI (Meridean Houses)so it is not certain that the husband is being unfaithful.He might be a technician. Regards, Anny Message: 1 Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:02:05 -0700 " Bettina " <chiria RE: Re: Help in Astrology Dear Maya ... This is just me and has nothing to do with astrology. If your husband is having problems, you should stand by him. All marriages have highs and lows and as long as he's not doing anything deleberately (or because he doesn't care enough not to) to make you miserable (like cheating or beating), see it through. .... Bettina orient_41 [orient_41] Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:41 AM Re: Help in Astrology Dear Bettina, There is no volience of any measure in my relationship. All the negativity is coming from his ex and his eldest son. There is a business relationship with his eldest son which is difficult to get rid of immediately. He is trying to be reasonable with this person but he is becoming difficult to deal with. My husband and I believe that these people should get their own life and he knows that their negative influence is ruining our relationship. Thanks for listening, maya , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> wrote: > Dear Maya ... > > > Only you (and your husband) can determine that. It's a matter of free will. > It's like the old Dear Abby (or Ann Landers, I forget which) question, " Are > you better off with him or without him? " > > The strongest connection btween your two charts is his Mars on your Venus > and Moon, which shows a strong physical attraction (at least at the > beginning). > > If he is violent, I'd say leave. If not, try counselling. > > > ... Bettina > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > Hello Again, > > Is is possible to look into my chart to see whether my current > marriage will go into a divorce. > born on 12th March, 1959 at 2:30 p.m. Melaka, Malaysia. > > Thanks alot, > Maya > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > wrote: > > I don't like to say much about a person's chart unless that person > has asked > > me him/herself, unless it's a child and the parent wants some kind > of > > guidance on raising them or what their strengths or weaknesses > might be. > > > > I will say that your husband has a problematic Moon and also some > > afflictions to Venus. So, he'd have problems with women. Also, > Uranus in > > 7th house often points to divorce. > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:51 AM > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > This is my husband's. Currently we are going through a very > difficult > > period. I am thinking about going for a divorce due to his ex and > her > > lawyers. > > > > maya > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > wrote: > > > Is this yours or somebody elses? > > > > > > > > > ...Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > Monday, June 07, 2004 8:30 PM > > > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > Dear Bettina, > > > > > > Sorry to get back to you so late. > > > > > > Here is the latitude and longitude of Brooklyn, New York. > > > 40 degrees, 42 minutes, 51 seconds N latitude, and 74 degrees, 0 > > > minutes 23 seconds W longitude. > > > > > > Maya > > > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > > wrote: > > > > I went to look up Brooklyn and there were a whole lot of > > > Brooklyns. Which B > > > > would it be? Or do you have the L & L for where you were born? > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > > Monday, May 24, 2004 11:23 AM > > > > > > > > Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > born on 15th April, 1949, in Brooklyn, New York at 12:33 a.m. > > > > > > > > If anyone can analyze this chart would be much appreciated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to > Antares? " - > > -- > > > -- > > > > > > > > Post message: > > > > Subscribe: - > > > > Un: - > > > > List owner: -owner > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > > / > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Dear Bettina, I agree with you that a wife should not leave her husband just because there are problems in their lives. But what if their livelihood depended on his son? His son is now trying to sabotage the business and making it very difficult for him to make a living. You see I am not dependant on my husband but rather on his son. The son basically dictates what my husband should do and not do...... I am in a very difficult situation. Either way, that is firing his son or otherwise would put us in a financially ackward situation. The reason why I asked you see his astrology is to know whether his business situation will change and whether he will have control over his business and his life. Life is too short and I do not want to spend my entire life trying to solve my husband's problems. These problems with his sons and his ex have been going on for the past 30 years. Deep down in my heart I believe this problem will never end until may be my husband is gone. I am the unlucky one to get involve with him. Again, let me say that my husband is a good person but his problems are many. Maya , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> wrote: > Dear Anny ... > > > I told her to stay with him because I think people should give marriage > their best shot. I think it's sad when people give up as soon as a problem > arises. I believe that a person should only leave the partner if the > partner is abusive, or just doesn't give a damn about working things out. I > would never put myself in the position of telling someone whether or not > there was going to be a divorce in their future. That's one reason I'll > never be a professional astrologer. People want to know the future, and I > believe they should work through their problems to the best of their > ability. > > I think it was the husband who had the Uranus in 7th, and he has been > divorced before this marriage. > > I also had the feeling that his ex would be very happy to see this marriage > fail. > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > Anny van Berckel [avbdk@x...] > Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:02 PM > > RE: Digest Number 820 > > > > Hi Bettina, > > In this matter I am not sure you gave the right advise concerning > Maya to leave her husband, if she is not sure about him. That is why she > asked a chart. > I do not have the impression he is cheating her.He is even trying to drop > his son to get him more independent. Although this might be a different > case, it happened in my > neighbourhood, that an ex-wive tried to spoil the new relation of her ex > husband.Once she succeeded in it, she bounced her frontdoor on his nose (he > returned to her to protect his child against the mother's badly > treatment),with the cry she does not want him anymore. It occured in my > neighbourhood. The girl was only three years old. > To help Maya needs far more time than what we have in this group to > work well > as she needs now. In your mode of work, Uranus is in VII, but I have Uranus > in VI (Meridean Houses)so it is not certain that the husband is being > unfaithful.He might be > a technician. > Regards, > Anny > > Message: 1 > Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:02:05 -0700 > " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > RE: Re: Help in Astrology > > Dear Maya ... > > > This is just me and has nothing to do with astrology. If your husband is > having problems, you should stand by him. All marriages have highs and lows > and as long as he's not doing anything deleberately (or because he doesn't > care enough not to) to make you miserable (like cheating or beating), see it > through. > > > ... Bettina > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:41 AM > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > Dear Bettina, > > There is no volience of any measure in my relationship. All the > negativity is coming from his ex and his eldest son. There is a > business relationship with his eldest son which is difficult to get > rid of immediately. He is trying to be reasonable with this person > but he is becoming difficult to deal with. My husband and I believe > that these people should get their own life and he knows that their > negative influence is ruining our relationship. > > Thanks for listening, > maya > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > wrote: > > Dear Maya ... > > > > > > Only you (and your husband) can determine that. It's a matter of > free will. > > It's like the old Dear Abby (or Ann Landers, I forget which) > question, " Are > > you better off with him or without him? " > > > > The strongest connection btween your two charts is his Mars on your > Venus > > and Moon, which shows a strong physical attraction (at least at the > > beginning). > > > > If he is violent, I'd say leave. If not, try counselling. > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > Hello Again, > > > > Is is possible to look into my chart to see whether my current > > marriage will go into a divorce. > > born on 12th March, 1959 at 2:30 p.m. Melaka, Malaysia. > > > > Thanks alot, > > Maya > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > wrote: > > > I don't like to say much about a person's chart unless that person > > has asked > > > me him/herself, unless it's a child and the parent wants some kind > > of > > > guidance on raising them or what their strengths or weaknesses > > might be. > > > > > > I will say that your husband has a problematic Moon and also some > > > afflictions to Venus. So, he'd have problems with women. Also, > > Uranus in > > > 7th house often points to divorce. > > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:51 AM > > > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > This is my husband's. Currently we are going through a very > > difficult > > > period. I am thinking about going for a divorce due to his ex and > > her > > > lawyers. > > > > > > maya > > > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > > wrote: > > > > Is this yours or somebody elses? > > > > > > > > > > > > ...Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > > Monday, June 07, 2004 8:30 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bettina, > > > > > > > > Sorry to get back to you so late. > > > > > > > > Here is the latitude and longitude of Brooklyn, New York. > > > > 40 degrees, 42 minutes, 51 seconds N latitude, and 74 degrees, 0 > > > > minutes 23 seconds W longitude. > > > > > > > > Maya > > > > > > > > , " Bettina " > <chiria@n...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I went to look up Brooklyn and there were a whole lot of > > > > Brooklyns. Which B > > > > > would it be? Or do you have the L & L for where you were > born? > > > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > > > Monday, May 24, 2004 11:23 AM > > > > > > > > > > Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > born on 15th April, 1949, in Brooklyn, New York at 12:33 a.m. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone can analyze this chart would be much appreciated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to > > Antares? " - > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Post message: > > > > > Subscribe: - > > > > > Un: - > > > > > List owner: -owner > > > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > > > / > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Could you and husband possibly get legal help? Or, could he get into another line of work? Do you work, or could you get work? Is there any way you could both extricate yourself from this mess? .... Bettina orient_41 [orient_41] Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:29 PM Re: Digest Number 820 Dear Bettina, I agree with you that a wife should not leave her husband just because there are problems in their lives. But what if their livelihood depended on his son? His son is now trying to sabotage the business and making it very difficult for him to make a living. You see I am not dependant on my husband but rather on his son. The son basically dictates what my husband should do and not do...... I am in a very difficult situation. Either way, that is firing his son or otherwise would put us in a financially ackward situation. The reason why I asked you see his astrology is to know whether his business situation will change and whether he will have control over his business and his life. Life is too short and I do not want to spend my entire life trying to solve my husband's problems. These problems with his sons and his ex have been going on for the past 30 years. Deep down in my heart I believe this problem will never end until may be my husband is gone. I am the unlucky one to get involve with him. Again, let me say that my husband is a good person but his problems are many. Maya , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> wrote: > Dear Anny ... > > > I told her to stay with him because I think people should give marriage > their best shot. I think it's sad when people give up as soon as a problem > arises. I believe that a person should only leave the partner if the > partner is abusive, or just doesn't give a damn about working things out. I > would never put myself in the position of telling someone whether or not > there was going to be a divorce in their future. That's one reason I'll > never be a professional astrologer. People want to know the future, and I > believe they should work through their problems to the best of their > ability. > > I think it was the husband who had the Uranus in 7th, and he has been > divorced before this marriage. > > I also had the feeling that his ex would be very happy to see this marriage > fail. > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > Anny van Berckel [avbdk@x...] > Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:02 PM > > RE: Digest Number 820 > > > > Hi Bettina, > > In this matter I am not sure you gave the right advise concerning > Maya to leave her husband, if she is not sure about him. That is why she > asked a chart. > I do not have the impression he is cheating her.He is even trying to drop > his son to get him more independent. Although this might be a different > case, it happened in my > neighbourhood, that an ex-wive tried to spoil the new relation of her ex > husband.Once she succeeded in it, she bounced her frontdoor on his nose (he > returned to her to protect his child against the mother's badly > treatment),with the cry she does not want him anymore. It occured in my > neighbourhood. The girl was only three years old. > To help Maya needs far more time than what we have in this group to > work well > as she needs now. In your mode of work, Uranus is in VII, but I have Uranus > in VI (Meridean Houses)so it is not certain that the husband is being > unfaithful.He might be > a technician. > Regards, > Anny > > Message: 1 > Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:02:05 -0700 > " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > RE: Re: Help in Astrology > > Dear Maya ... > > > This is just me and has nothing to do with astrology. If your husband is > having problems, you should stand by him. All marriages have highs and lows > and as long as he's not doing anything deleberately (or because he doesn't > care enough not to) to make you miserable (like cheating or beating), see it > through. > > > ... Bettina > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:41 AM > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > Dear Bettina, > > There is no volience of any measure in my relationship. All the > negativity is coming from his ex and his eldest son. There is a > business relationship with his eldest son which is difficult to get > rid of immediately. He is trying to be reasonable with this person > but he is becoming difficult to deal with. My husband and I believe > that these people should get their own life and he knows that their > negative influence is ruining our relationship. > > Thanks for listening, > maya > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > wrote: > > Dear Maya ... > > > > > > Only you (and your husband) can determine that. It's a matter of > free will. > > It's like the old Dear Abby (or Ann Landers, I forget which) > question, " Are > > you better off with him or without him? " > > > > The strongest connection btween your two charts is his Mars on your > Venus > > and Moon, which shows a strong physical attraction (at least at the > > beginning). > > > > If he is violent, I'd say leave. If not, try counselling. > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > Hello Again, > > > > Is is possible to look into my chart to see whether my current > > marriage will go into a divorce. > > born on 12th March, 1959 at 2:30 p.m. Melaka, Malaysia. > > > > Thanks alot, > > Maya > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > wrote: > > > I don't like to say much about a person's chart unless that person > > has asked > > > me him/herself, unless it's a child and the parent wants some kind > > of > > > guidance on raising them or what their strengths or weaknesses > > might be. > > > > > > I will say that your husband has a problematic Moon and also some > > > afflictions to Venus. So, he'd have problems with women. Also, > > Uranus in > > > 7th house often points to divorce. > > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:51 AM > > > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > This is my husband's. Currently we are going through a very > > difficult > > > period. I am thinking about going for a divorce due to his ex and > > her > > > lawyers. > > > > > > maya > > > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > > wrote: > > > > Is this yours or somebody elses? > > > > > > > > > > > > ...Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > > Monday, June 07, 2004 8:30 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bettina, > > > > > > > > Sorry to get back to you so late. > > > > > > > > Here is the latitude and longitude of Brooklyn, New York. > > > > 40 degrees, 42 minutes, 51 seconds N latitude, and 74 degrees, 0 > > > > minutes 23 seconds W longitude. > > > > > > > > Maya > > > > > > > > , " Bettina " > <chiria@n...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I went to look up Brooklyn and there were a whole lot of > > > > Brooklyns. Which B > > > > > would it be? Or do you have the L & L for where you were > born? > > > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > > > Monday, May 24, 2004 11:23 AM > > > > > > > > > > Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > born on 15th April, 1949, in Brooklyn, New York at 12:33 a.m. > > > > > > > > > > If anyone can analyze this chart would be much appreciated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to > > Antares? " - > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Post message: > > > > > Subscribe: - > > > > > Un: - > > > > > List owner: -owner > > > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > > > / > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 My husband does not want to have to start all over again. In this respect, he is willing to put up with this mess even though our relationship is being in jeopardy. As I told you earlier, this has been going on in his life ever since he married the ex. He is the person who needs to decide what he wants. As for work, I help him in his business. Bettina, you have been very kind listening to my rambling. Maya , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> wrote: > Could you and husband possibly get legal help? Or, could he get into > another line of work? Do you work, or could you get work? Is there any way > you could both extricate yourself from this mess? > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > Thursday, June 10, 2004 7:29 PM > > Re: Digest Number 820 > > > Dear Bettina, > > I agree with you that a wife should not leave her husband just > because there are problems in their lives. But what if their > livelihood depended on his son? His son is now trying to sabotage the > business and making it very difficult for him to make a living. You > see I am not dependant on my husband but rather on his son. The son > basically dictates what my husband should do and not do...... > > I am in a very difficult situation. Either way, that is firing his > son or otherwise would put us in a financially ackward situation. > > The reason why I asked you see his astrology is to know whether his > business situation will change and whether he will have control over > his business and his life. > > Life is too short and I do not want to spend my entire life trying to > solve my husband's problems. These problems with his sons and his ex > have been going on for the past 30 years. Deep down in my heart I > believe this problem will never end until may be my husband is gone. > I am the unlucky one to get involve with him. Again, let me say that > my husband is a good person but his problems are many. > > Maya > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> wrote: > > Dear Anny ... > > > > > > I told her to stay with him because I think people should give > marriage > > their best shot. I think it's sad when people give up as soon as a > problem > > arises. I believe that a person should only leave the partner if > the > > partner is abusive, or just doesn't give a damn about working > things out. I > > would never put myself in the position of telling someone whether > or not > > there was going to be a divorce in their future. That's one reason > I'll > > never be a professional astrologer. People want to know the > future, and I > > believe they should work through their problems to the best of their > > ability. > > > > I think it was the husband who had the Uranus in 7th, and he has > been > > divorced before this marriage. > > > > I also had the feeling that his ex would be very happy to see this > marriage > > fail. > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > Anny van Berckel [avbdk@x] > > Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:02 PM > > > > RE: Digest Number 820 > > > > > > > > Hi Bettina, > > > > In this matter I am not sure you gave the right advise > concerning > > Maya to leave her husband, if she is not sure about him. That is > why she > > asked a chart. > > I do not have the impression he is cheating her.He is even trying > to drop > > his son to get him more independent. Although this might be a > different > > case, it happened in my > > neighbourhood, that an ex-wive tried to spoil the new relation of > her ex > > husband.Once she succeeded in it, she bounced her frontdoor on his > nose (he > > returned to her to protect his child against the mother's badly > > treatment),with the cry she does not want him anymore. It occured > in my > > neighbourhood. The girl was only three years old. > > To help Maya needs far more time than what we have in this > group to > > work well > > as she needs now. In your mode of work, Uranus is in VII, but I > have Uranus > > in VI (Meridean Houses)so it is not certain that the husband is > being > > unfaithful.He might be > > a technician. > > Regards, > > Anny > > > > Message: 1 > > Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:02:05 -0700 > > " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > RE: Re: Help in Astrology > > > > Dear Maya ... > > > > > > This is just me and has nothing to do with astrology. If your > husband is > > having problems, you should stand by him. All marriages have highs > and lows > > and as long as he's not doing anything deleberately (or because he > doesn't > > care enough not to) to make you miserable (like cheating or > beating), see it > > through. > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:41 AM > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > Dear Bettina, > > > > There is no volience of any measure in my relationship. All the > > negativity is coming from his ex and his eldest son. There is a > > business relationship with his eldest son which is difficult to get > > rid of immediately. He is trying to be reasonable with this person > > but he is becoming difficult to deal with. My husband and I believe > > that these people should get their own life and he knows that their > > negative influence is ruining our relationship. > > > > Thanks for listening, > > maya > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > wrote: > > > Dear Maya ... > > > > > > > > > Only you (and your husband) can determine that. It's a matter of > > free will. > > > It's like the old Dear Abby (or Ann Landers, I forget which) > > question, " Are > > > you better off with him or without him? " > > > > > > The strongest connection btween your two charts is his Mars on > your > > Venus > > > and Moon, which shows a strong physical attraction (at least at > the > > > beginning). > > > > > > If he is violent, I'd say leave. If not, try counselling. > > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM > > > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > Hello Again, > > > > > > Is is possible to look into my chart to see whether my current > > > marriage will go into a divorce. > > > born on 12th March, 1959 at 2:30 p.m. Melaka, Malaysia. > > > > > > Thanks alot, > > > Maya > > > > > > , " Bettina " <chiria@n...> > > > wrote: > > > > I don't like to say much about a person's chart unless that > person > > > has asked > > > > me him/herself, unless it's a child and the parent wants some > kind > > > of > > > > guidance on raising them or what their strengths or weaknesses > > > might be. > > > > > > > > I will say that your husband has a problematic Moon and also > some > > > > afflictions to Venus. So, he'd have problems with women. Also, > > > Uranus in > > > > 7th house often points to divorce. > > > > > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > > Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:51 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > This is my husband's. Currently we are going through a very > > > difficult > > > > period. I am thinking about going for a divorce due to his ex > and > > > her > > > > lawyers. > > > > > > > > maya > > > > > > > > , " Bettina " > <chiria@n...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Is this yours or somebody elses? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > > > Monday, June 07, 2004 8:30 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bettina, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to get back to you so late. > > > > > > > > > > Here is the latitude and longitude of Brooklyn, New York. > > > > > 40 degrees, 42 minutes, 51 seconds N latitude, and 74 > degrees, 0 > > > > > minutes 23 seconds W longitude. > > > > > > > > > > Maya > > > > > > > > > > , " Bettina " > > <chiria@n...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > I went to look up Brooklyn and there were a whole lot of > > > > > Brooklyns. Which B > > > > > > would it be? Or do you have the L & L for where you were > > born? > > > > > > > > > > > > ... Bettina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > orient_41 [orient_41] > > > > > > Monday, May 24, 2004 11:23 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Help in Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > born on 15th April, 1949, in Brooklyn, New York at 12:33 > a.m. > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone can analyze this chart would be much appreciated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to > > > Antares? " - > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Post message: > > > > > > Subscribe: - > > > > > > Un: - > > > > > > > List owner: -owner > > > > > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > > > > / > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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