An addendum-Richard Houck

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Please excuse me I omitted to mention the late Richard Houck as one of the

finest american astrologers.

 

He was like a renaissance astrologer, very professional and highly educated.

 

In a time where prediction had been abandoned in the sake of an alleged

character delineation, he rescued the original purpose of astrology by

specializing in making predictions.

 

He studied and dominated all the astrological techniques and questioned and

discarded all those who did not produce accurate results.

 

He even adventured to examine all the astrological factors than can indicate

death and acording to many of his clients, he was capable of advancing it by the

use of the pertinent dasha period and the stationary state of certain planets.

 

He acquired a great reputation in the political arena due to his success in his

predictions.

 

He was so confident on his techniques that he even betted on his forecasts.

 

If you read his books you will find they are very practical but simultaneously

very rigorous when examining and discarding astrological factors that were not

relevant.

 

And more important, he was of the few who looked for confirming factors before

daring to adventure a prognostic.

 

This is a crutial point and is frequently omitted by most astrologers.

 

They jump to make conclusions from just one single factor. Please re-read the

prognostics done in this list as an example of this trend.

 

But when Richard made a prediction, he was categoric and unequivocal in the way

of presenting it.

 

Not like the predictions read oftenly that say as " Bush shows Jupiter in a

favourable position which might suggest his victory but.... his saturn is

afflicted so he could lose " .

 

And when the election is over the astrologer shows the part of the sentence that

agrees more with the result.

 

And so the astrologer feels vindicated!!. But they are really deluding

themselves.

 

You can read the predictions made on the next election and you find the

astrologers always leave the door open always to the different possibilities.

But this is not correct.

 

Astrology misses and needs practitioners as Richard Houck.

 

Sincerely yours,

 

Alfonso Osorio

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, alfonso osorio

<alfonsoosorio> wrote:

 

> He was so confident on his techniques that he even betted on his

forecasts.

 

He was also so confident in his techniques that he predicted in

writing the date of his own death. Unfortunately as I recall he was

about ten or twelve years off the mark. If astrologers such as these

would be willing to submit their work to public scrutiny instead of

making insupportable statements of the first order which presume

absolute faith but require verification, then astrologers might be

justified in making claims for the superiority of one technique or

approach over another. Otherwise it is just blowing smoke.

 

Andrew

[Guest guest]

Yes, Richard Houck was a great astrologer, and he gives the lie to the

statement that astrology cannot predict political victories. He was always

right, even about Election 2000, using his own true and proved astrological

techniques.

 

The sad part of the story is that even by carefully studying Houck's books,

no astrologer has yet duplicated his work. Although he never talked about

it, Richard Houck used a fair amount of intuition in his work. He used

different techniques at different times and combined them in different

ways. He was a gifted intuitive and combined that skill with precise

mathematics to come up with his predictions. Someone without the gift of

intuition can use Houck's techniques and come up with the wrong predictions.

 

Richard Houck also stated that only the sidereal zodiac can give correct

predictive results. He always urged Tropical astrologers to investigate the

sidereal zodiac. He had his own ayanamsa, only seconds different from

Krishnamurti.

 

Therese

 

At 07:25 AM 9/19/04 -0700, Alfonso wrote:

>

>Please excuse me I omitted to mention the late Richard Houck as one of the

finest american astrologers...

[Guest guest]

At 04:42 PM 9/19/04 -0000, Andrew wrote:

>He [Richard Houck] was also so confident in his techniques that he

predicted in

>writing the date of his own death. Unfortunately as I recall he was

>about ten or twelve years off the mark.

 

No kidding! I missed that.

 

>If astrologers such as these

>would be willing to submit their work to public scrutiny instead of

>making insupportable statements of the first order which presume

>absolute faith but require verification,

 

Rick was good at illustrating his techniques for individual predictions,

but when I tried to methodically study how he made his predictions, I ended

up with total confusion. Somehow his books sound good, his predictions were

correct, but I personally couldn't get any methodical order out of his books.

 

Therese

[Guest guest]

Therese:

 

I agree with you that Richard was highly intuitive and I was going

to use that word but decided to omit it. Why? Because all good

astrologer must be neccessarily very intuitive. It is a pre-

requisite.

 

Intuition is what is used when selecting a winner of a race of just

2 or when reading a chart to a client and you formulate the right

questions or read the body language of the clients. It is also a

kind of empathy the astrologer must have to interpret the needs and

desires of the client.

 

To determine and advance the exact date of death of a person,is a

more complex thing to do and demands the skilfull use and

application of several astrological tecniques.

 

I would not presume to have been his friend but we did exchanged

emails the last two years prior to his dead and I can confirm his

passion for learning and applying different techniques.

 

We had similar points of view in the sense that we prefered the

hindu astrology but also applied western concepts and techniques.

 

And we difered because he liked the tertiary progresions and I was

always more inclined to use the varshapal or solar return and to

combine it with primary directions.

 

I would not afirm that he anticipated his own death. But anyway he

was an outstanding and brilliant astrologer.

 

Regards, Alfonso

 

 

, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest@s...> wrote:

> Yes, Richard Houck was a great astrologer, and he gives the lie to

the

> statement that astrology cannot predict political victories. He

was always

> right, even about Election 2000, using his own true and proved

astrological

> techniques.

>

> The sad part of the story is that even by carefully studying

Houck's books,

> no astrologer has yet duplicated his work. Although he never

talked about

> it, Richard Houck used a fair amount of intuition in his work. He

used

> different techniques at different times and combined them in

different

> ways. He was a gifted intuitive and combined that skill with

precise

> mathematics to come up with his predictions. Someone without the

gift of

> intuition can use Houck's techniques and come up with the wrong

predictions.

>

> Richard Houck also stated that only the sidereal zodiac can give

correct

> predictive results. He always urged Tropical astrologers to

investigate the

> sidereal zodiac. He had his own ayanamsa, only seconds different

from

> Krishnamurti.

>

> Therese

>

> At 07:25 AM 9/19/04 -0700, Alfonso wrote:

> >

> >Please excuse me I omitted to mention the late Richard Houck as

one of the

> finest american astrologers...

[Guest guest]

-

" Therese Hamilton " <eastwest

 

Sunday, September 19, 2004 5:08 PM

Re: An addendum-Richard Houck

 

 

> At 04:42 PM 9/19/04 -0000, Andrew wrote:

> >He [Richard Houck] was also so confident in his techniques that he

> predicted in

> >writing the date of his own death. Unfortunately as I recall he was

> >about ten or twelve years off the mark.

>

> No kidding! I missed that.

 

More like 30 years off. He predicted he'd live to 87 or something like

that. Sadly, another example of the difficultly in reading one's own chart.

 

Chris

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

Moon 1st square Sun so he had angular Lights. Their midpoint was the Nodes which

were upon the A/M...very psychic.

 

He had not seen the seed of cancer in his 1996 SSR, by his own admission. He

said in the last year that he never realized until then how well liked he was.

(Saturn so strong in the natus).

 

Dark*Star

 

 

 

Therese Hamilton wrote:

 

> Yes, Richard Houck was a great astrologer, and he gives the lie to the

[Guest guest]

, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest@s...> wrote:

 

> No kidding! I missed that.

 

For more on this :

 

http://www.astroamerica.com/v-houck.html

 

Then check 'A final note on Rick Houck' and A footnote to a footnote'

by Dave at the bottom of the page.

 

Andrew

[Guest guest]

, Therese Hamilton

<eastwest@s...> wrote:

 

> Richard Houck also stated that only the sidereal zodiac can give correct

> predictive results. He always urged Tropical astrologers to

investigate the

> sidereal zodiac.

 

I came across the article (and website) linked to below by accident

but I would be interested to hear others' opinions on the arguments

made here:

 

http://www.shamanicastrology.org/articles08.htm

 

The gist of the article seems to be (am I understanding this

correctly?) that astrologers should use the signs of the tropical

zodiac along with the constellations of the sidereal zodiac with the

fixed stars as links between the two. Did I get that right?

 

Andrew

[Guest guest]

At 05:01 PM 9/20/04 -0000, Andrew wrote:

 

>For more on [Richard Houck] :

>

>http://www.astroamerica.com/v-houck.html

>

>Then check 'A final note on Rick Houck' and A footnote to a footnote'

>by Dave at the bottom of the page.

 

Andrew, that entry is extremely interesting! Worth printing out and saving.

Dave is very good with his commentary. For any Vedic astrologer reading

this list, the comments on Bhrigu readings are intriguing. I wonder about

Mr. Kharve (spelling?) who can tap into anyone's correct birth time.

 

I'm really quite relieved that Rick missed on his own death date. There's a

comment in his Death book that only *one* aspect predicts the winner in an

election, and I'd love to see that proved wrong.

 

Therese