Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 At 11:08 PM 4/30/04 -0700, Kit wrote: >Hi Therese.......Clearly you have a learning of Vedic/Jyotish which I'm not familiar with. I will begin immediately to study such material. I'm very willing to understand and apply a new venue. Frawley is close to a friend of mine. Have you read Conversation's With God Book 2 by Neale Walsch. Welsh's books combine a lot of junk with some truth. The facts come from India's spiritual schools including that of Paramahansa Yogananda and Ramana Maharshi. But this is nothing I want to get into. It's enough to know that I don't accept Walsh as a speaker of truth. I think it's in Book 3 that he speaks of satha sai baba as an enlightned being and that guy is a pedophile. For my information I mostly depend on the Project Hindshight and Arhat translations plus the scholarly works of David Pingree and others. Jyotish is a mixed bag, mostly based on Hellenistic and Arabic astrology. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Looked at dispassionately, paedophilia is simply one of the 7 different ways of having sex. Its practice ( presently devalued in the West...but look to history) like any of the others has nothing to do with a light that ignites from within. Dark*Star Therese Hamilton wrote: that he speaks of satha sai baba as an enlightned being and that guy is a pedophile. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Any nonconsensual sex is a violation of human rights, and forcing children into sex is the worst kind. It can, and often does, lead to severe psychological problems. Sometimes even suicide results. Then there's the matter of hypocracy. I know what I'm talking about as I spent 9 years as a follower of sai baba and read his teachings and discourses. He claims to be celebate and isn't. He shames his followers for their sexuality while he does as he pleases. There is a vast difference between true spirituality and mastery of occult forces. Not enough people realize that. When viewed dispassionately murder, mayhem, and slavery aren't all that bad either. As long as you're not the one on the receiving end of them. .... Bettina Dark Star [pansophia] Saturday, May 01, 2004 9:46 PM Re: Re: Re: Jyotish/Hellenistic astrology Looked at dispassionately, paedophilia is simply one of the 7 different ways of having sex. Its practice ( presently devalued in the West...but look to history) like any of the others has nothing to do with a light that ignites from within. Dark*Star Therese Hamilton wrote: that he speaks of satha sai baba as an enlightned being and that guy is a pedophile. > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / ---------- -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 From the 'original' Latin of the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus ~ Quod est Inferius est sicut quod est Superius, ad perpetranda Miracula Rei Unius... That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, in the accomplishment of the Miracle of One Thing... Cosmic Consciousness or Unity... The moment the split brain become One... Moon + Jupiter + Pluto... Has never been denied to flawed vessels. Dark*Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 Hi Therese, I haven't checked lately, but have you kept up with developments from the Fellowship...Yogananda's paternity accusation, his supposed son, Ben Erskine? I wonder if something was lost when they moved into the new quarters on the hill deserting Lake Shrine? I question the true value of missionaries off to convert other lands. There is such an ego in such acts. Dark*Star therese92003 wrote: > . For consciousness > raising try Paramahansa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 I have no personal stake in this controversy because I'm not a devotee of Paramansa Yogananda, but just out of curiousity I did a search for Ben Erskine. There are several articles about him and his claim to be the illigitimate son of PY and the conclusion based on DNA testing was that the two could not be related. This was reported in an article in the July 11th, 2002 edition of the Los Angeles Times. .... Bettina Dark Star [pansophia] Monday, May 03, 2004 1:32 PM Re: Re: Jyotish/Hellenistic astrology Hi Therese, I haven't checked lately, but have you kept up with developments from the Fellowship...Yogananda's paternity accusation, his supposed son, Ben Erskine? I wonder if something was lost when they moved into the new quarters on the hill deserting Lake Shrine? I question the true value of missionaries off to convert other lands. There is such an ego in such acts. Dark*Star therese92003 wrote: > . For consciousness > raising try Paramahansa " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Dark Star wrote: > That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above, > in the accomplishment of the Miracle of One Thing... Dark One, Speaking of the 'below' reference...it's sad so many 'short eyes' rotting away in their jail cells, supremely realized and yet totally urecognized and bereft of sincere disciples......I'm getting all misty eyed. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Hi, I did see that and also an article in the LA Weekly. Erskine is a simple carpenter without guile living in Oregon and it's not all that important to him. So he trustingly let all the testing and lawyering in the manipulative hands of the organization. Naive -as the results would have to speak to millions of dollars while he was far away hammering houses together. Dark*Star Bettina wrote: > . There are several articles about him and his claim to be the > illigitimate son of PY and the conclusion based on DNA testing was that the > two could not be related. This was reported in an article in the July 11th, > 2002 edition of the Los Angeles Times. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Actually, if you read this paricular article you'll see that, after the initial testing, retesting was done exactly because it looked as though the results could have been skewed by SRF. The 2nd testing was done by impartial parties. Read the article all the way through; it explains it a lot better than I can. It does sound like BE was genuinely convinced that he was PY's son. I don't think he was trying to trick anyone. He was just incorrect. .... Bettina Dark Star [pansophia] Monday, May 03, 2004 4:56 PM Re: Re: Jyotish/Hellenistic astrology Hi, I did see that and also an article in the LA Weekly. Erskine is a simple carpenter without guile living in Oregon and it's not all that important to him. So he trustingly let all the testing and lawyering in the manipulative hands of the organization. Naive -as the results would have to speak to millions of dollars while he was far away hammering houses together. Dark*Star Bettina wrote: > . There are several articles about him and his claim to be the > illigitimate son of PY and the conclusion based on DNA testing was that the > two could not be related. This was reported in an article in the July 11th, > 2002 edition of the Los Angeles Times. > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Ben Erskine: January 16, 1933 Los Angeles, California. D*S Bettina wrote: > Paramansa Yogananda, but just out of curiousity I did a search for Ben > Erskine. There are several articles about him and his claim to be the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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