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In a message dated 7/21/2004 7:37:00 PM Central Standard Time,

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His natal Mars/Rahu

what the heck's a Rahu ? // chriswing

 

 

 

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> His natal Mars/Rahu

> what the heck's a Rahu ?

 

Rahu is the same as the Moon's north Node, while Ketu is the south Node.

 

In India, Rahu is mentioned as far back as the four Vedas, as the demon

who overtook the light of the Sun(as it does during a solar eclipse).

 

Rahu is also known as the decapitated head of the serpent, and Ketu, the

tail

 

Rahu seems to increase or exaggerate the qualities of the planet it

associates with or aspects.

 

In Lance's case, I think his unusual energy is shown by Mars/Rahu trine

Saturn and Uranus.

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Steve,

 

Yeah, the chart doesn't quite conform with what we would expect from a big

win. But OTOH, is it bad enough to suggest disappointment and humiliation

that would result from losing or disqualification at this very late stage?

I don't see this. Lance won again today making it nearly impossible for him

to lose the race now barring some sabotage or positive drug test. I think if

you were looking to bet against now him in Vegas you could really get some

amazingly long odds (10-1 or more).

 

The sidereal heliocentric chart looks quite good. I find the helio triwheel

using progressions and transits to be especially useful when the birthtime

is not known. Tr Jp 1Virgo is aspecting his Earth 1Pisces, 2P Venus 8Sc is

conjunct Neptune 8Sc (although this might be his current romance with singer

Sheryl Crow). Tr Mercury will be conjunct this conjunction on Jul 25 at the

end of the race. However tr Venus squares natal Saturn then too, so the

chart is not entirely without negative tension.

 

The tertiary progressions also look good to me: 3P Earth is exactly trining

natal Venus, while 3P Venus 29Le and 3P Mars ViTa are both aspected by

transit Chiron 29Sg. It's a great picture of victory.

 

I wouldn't make the wager against him at this point.

 

Vas-y Lance! Vive Lance!

 

Chris

 

 

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Steven Stuckey <shastrakara

 

Wednesday, July 21, 2004 5:36 PM

Tour de France

 

 

>

> Lance Armstrong: born Sept 18, 1971 (no time) in Plano, Texas has taken

> the lead in the Tour de France today and is the projected winner by the

> New York Times (barring illness or accident).

>

> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/21/sports/sportsspecial/21CND-TOUR.html?hp

>

>

>

> There are 4 days remaining in the race, due to end on Sunday, July 25th.

>

> His natal Mars/Rahu in Capricorn must contribute to his extraordinary

> competitive strength.

>

> Based on regular transits to the natal chart and solar planets from the

> previous birthday, I'm not so sure he will win.

>

> His Sept 18, 2003 Solar chart has a tight conjunction of Mars/Uranus at

> 5 Aquarius.

> This is squared to the natal Neptune at 6 Scorpio.

> On the last day of the race the transiting Mercury will reach 5 Leo and

> pick off this combination, which translates to me as a potential for an

> accident, illness or disappointment.

>

> The transiting Neptune is also moving back to slightly over a degree out

> from his natal Mars by conjunction and approaching. In previous years

> wins, Neptune was never this close, except last year, it was within a

> degree, but had already moved past and was separating.

> On the last day of the race, the Moon will be approaching the middle of

> Libra and squaring this combination.

>

>

> Any thoughts on this?

>

>

> Best,

>

> Steve

>

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Dear Christopher

I have not looked at his chart, but did hear a discussion of Armstrong's

approach to the race. Essentially, they said that he uses his head and

develops a strategy. Apparantly, last year he led another racer to believe

that he was exhausted, the other racer led going into the mountains and LA

literally pushed him beyond exhaustion and LA took the lead. They said LA

races mad. That just about anything gets him mad, particularly having

someone ahead of him. Anyway, that might be a bit of the Mars RAhu.

Christopher Kevill [christopher.kevill]

Thursday, July 22, 2004 3:25 PM

Cc: magi-astrotopics

Re: Tour de France

 

 

Dear Steve,

 

Yeah, the chart doesn't quite conform with what we would expect from a big

win. But OTOH, is it bad enough to suggest disappointment and humiliation

that would result from losing or disqualification at this very late stage?

I don't see this. Lance won again today making it nearly impossible for

him

to lose the race now barring some sabotage or positive drug test. I think

if

you were looking to bet against now him in Vegas you could really get some

amazingly long odds (10-1 or more).

 

The sidereal heliocentric chart looks quite good. I find the helio

triwheel

using progressions and transits to be especially useful when the birthtime

is not known. Tr Jp 1Virgo is aspecting his Earth 1Pisces, 2P Venus 8Sc

is

conjunct Neptune 8Sc (although this might be his current romance with

singer

Sheryl Crow). Tr Mercury will be conjunct this conjunction on Jul 25 at

the

end of the race. However tr Venus squares natal Saturn then too, so the

chart is not entirely without negative tension.

 

The tertiary progressions also look good to me: 3P Earth is exactly

trining

natal Venus, while 3P Venus 29Le and 3P Mars ViTa are both aspected by

transit Chiron 29Sg. It's a great picture of victory.

 

I wouldn't make the wager against him at this point.

 

Vas-y Lance! Vive Lance!

 

Chris

 

 

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Steven Stuckey <shastrakara

Wednesday, July 21, 2004 5:36 PM

Tour de France

 

 

>

> Lance Armstrong: born Sept 18, 1971 (no time) in Plano, Texas has taken

> the lead in the Tour de France today and is the projected winner by the

> New York Times (barring illness or accident).

>

>

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/21/sports/sportsspecial/21CND-TOUR.html?hp

>

>

>

> There are 4 days remaining in the race, due to end on Sunday, July 25th.

>

> His natal Mars/Rahu in Capricorn must contribute to his extraordinary

> competitive strength.

>

> Based on regular transits to the natal chart and solar planets from the

> previous birthday, I'm not so sure he will win.

>

> His Sept 18, 2003 Solar chart has a tight conjunction of Mars/Uranus at

> 5 Aquarius.

> This is squared to the natal Neptune at 6 Scorpio.

> On the last day of the race the transiting Mercury will reach 5 Leo and

> pick off this combination, which translates to me as a potential for an

> accident, illness or disappointment.

>

> The transiting Neptune is also moving back to slightly over a degree out

> from his natal Mars by conjunction and approaching. In previous years

> wins, Neptune was never this close, except last year, it was within a

> degree, but had already moved past and was separating.

> On the last day of the race, the Moon will be approaching the middle of

> Libra and squaring this combination.

>

>

> Any thoughts on this?

>

>

> Best,

>

> Steve

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " -----

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Christopher Kevill wrote

 

>

> Yeah, the chart doesn't quite conform with what we would expect from a

> big

> win. But OTOH, is it bad enough to suggest disappointment and

> humiliation

> that would result from losing or disqualification at this very late

> stage?

> I don't see this.

 

Hi Chris,

 

Yes, good point....too bad we don't have his exact time.

 

tJupiter is near conjunction to the Moon and is normally thought of as

good, and I used to think this also before my intro to Vedic. Jupiter's

transit in the 1st from the Moon is not considered good--ask Cruz

Bustamante about this--he had transiting Jupiter in Leo to the exact

degree of his natal Moon when he lost the Kali-fornia governors race to

Arnold last fall.

 

I suppose it would be a major humiliation--made all the worse by his

natal Leo Moon.

 

His next birthday shows transiting Jupiter and Mars on the natal

Sun--Jupiter here for fame, recognition, endorsements etc, however Mars

may not be all together good.

 

 

>

 

> Lance won again today making it nearly impossible for him

> to lose the race now barring some sabotage or positive drug test.

 

This is exactly what I don't like about Neptune--please give me a Saturn

transit any day. Here Neptune is very close to natal Mars and tMerc

picking up natal Neptune---I can think of worse planetary scenarios, but

I don't like to see even the more minor transit of Mercury coming up

this way on the last day.

This is just the type of thing that happens for deception, drugs

etc--since we don't have the time of course, we can't tell if any of

this is coming up to his angles.

 

Neptune has a lot of strange things in it's weird grab bag of tricks...

 

 

> I think if

> you were looking to bet against now him in Vegas you could really get

> some

> amazingly long odds (10-1 or more).

 

Hmmmm....don't tempt me. :>))

 

 

 

>

> Tr Jp 1Virgo is aspecting his Earth 1Pisces, 2P Venus 8Sc is

> conjunct Neptune 8Sc (although this might be his current romance with

> singer

> Sheryl Crow). Tr Mercury will be conjunct this conjunction on Jul 25

> at the

> end of the race. However tr Venus squares natal Saturn then too, so

> the

> chart is not entirely without negative tension.

>

> The tertiary progressions also look good to me: 3P Earth is exactly

> trining

> natal Venus, while 3P Venus 29Le and 3P Mars ViTa are both aspected by

>

> transit Chiron 29Sg. It's a great picture of victory.

 

I don't use helio as you probably know, 'but that's not to say it's a

bad thing' (this line from a Seinfeld episode). :>))

Call me old fashioned, but those hot helio climates are just not for me.

 

 

 

 

I have the birthdates of the number 2, 3 and 4 cyclists:

 

#2. Ivan Brasso--born Nov 26, 1977 (no place of birth--I would presume

Italy).

#3 Andrea Kloden--born June 22, 1975 in Mittweida, Germany

#4. Jan Ullrich--born Dec 2, 1973 in Rostock, Germany

 

 

If I had to pick anyone of the above including Lance, I would vote for

Kloden for the winner.

 

On Sunday, the transiting Mars/Pluto at 25Can/25Sco make a near perfect

trine to his natal Jupiter at 26Pis. If he doesn't win, he will probably

come in a close second.

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

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An update on the Tour de France:

 

Andrea Kloden moved into 2nd place today (July 24th) after an

outstanding performance and moved past Basso. I expect Kloden to either

win or finish 2nd (from a previous post) due to transiting Mars moving

to near exact trine, along with transiting Pluto, to Kloden's natal

Jupiter. Venus is also moving into position now by sextile. At the very

least, he should make another grand effort tomorrow.

 

He is still 6 minutes 38 seconds behind Armstrong, followed closely by

Basso at 6:59 and Ullich at 9:00.

 

Armstrong is so far ahead at this point, that no one will catch him,

unless there is some sort of catastrophic accident tomorrow.

 

Some planetary observations for tomorrow:

 

Mercury will make it's exact conjunction to the star Regulus, primary

marking star in the nakshatra of Magha. Regulus is one of the four royal

stars of Persia and is associated with kings and royalty.

 

Mercury will also be Rx back over this point in August, so we can expect

to hear news of royal matters in genera for the next couple of

monthsl--Charles' engagement to Camilla perhaps?

 

 

Mercury (IMO) is associated with cycling, so one possible translation of

tomorrow's conjunction--a cycling king is crowned. Another

interpretation: a Mercurial king is crowned: (Armstrong is a Virgo and

Kloden is a Gemini).

 

" King " would be more representative of Armstrong is this case, since if

he wins, he will indeed become the King of the Tour de France, having

won 6 times.

 

Mars, the planet of athletes, is nearing it's point of deep

debilitation, 28 Cancer (opposite it's exaltation at 28 Capricorn).

Could mean trouble of some sort to athletes? Just throwing out some

possibilities here.

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

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Christopher Kevill wrote:

 

>

> Thanks for the update. Since the last leg is largely ceremonial (the

> riders

> often wear wigs and funny clothes!), there is no way Armstrong can

> lose

> unless there is some kind of drug disqualification.

 

Hi Chris,

 

One can always hope!!

 

 

>

> Perhaps that might be the avenue for the full-on debilitated Martian

> energy.

> I can't see it, but if you've got money riding on Kloden, there's

> always

> hope!!! :-)>

 

Yes, a long shot considering the circumstances--but there's always the

chance Lance will stop off for a pizza and margarita along the way. :>))

 

I'll be happy if Kloden finishes second. Win or loose, these events

wouldn't be half as much fun without astrology.

 

I was able to get into Texas vital statistics for birth records on line

yesterday, in an attempt to get Lance's birth time, but unfortunately

they only list the day with no exact times.

 

 

 

 

>

>

> I prefer the Mercury-Regulus image -- Armstrong will be the record

> holder

> for the Tour and arguably the best cyclist ever. Hail Mercury!

 

Yes, unless of course the universe, in it's infinite wisdom, has another

plan....

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Birth and death records are kept private. They will only release to the

individual or if he is dead to next of kin to proves it. When I was in

insurance investigator they were public. You could literally walk in to the

county clerk's office and open the book. Alas, I learned this law when I

tried to convince a worker to give me Laura Bush's birth time.

 

I finally pulled up Armstrong's chart. What a powerful Mars Rahu in Cap.

They say he is better at ignoring physical pain than anyone else...where

might that be in the chart? I'd guess that the Mercury Moon union is part,

and that the Mars Rahu is determined will.

 

Notice that Uranus square Saturn next year. He may truly stop after this

record win this year. I heard that he said he would stop last year too.

I'd imagine that any mortal would want to stop after such an endurance

trial.

 

Do you think that Mars Rahu is on the ASC? SUrely it's near an angle.

Since he has cancer, perhaps that indicates the Rahu on the ASC??? What are

your thoughts?

 

c

 

 

Steven Stuckey [shastrakara]

Saturday, July 24, 2004 5:11 PM

Re: Tour de France

 

 

 

 

Christopher Kevill wrote:

 

>

> Thanks for the update. Since the last leg is largely ceremonial (the

> riders

> often wear wigs and funny clothes!), there is no way Armstrong can

> lose

> unless there is some kind of drug disqualification.

 

Hi Chris,

 

One can always hope!!

 

 

>

> Perhaps that might be the avenue for the full-on debilitated Martian

> energy.

> I can't see it, but if you've got money riding on Kloden, there's

> always

> hope!!! :-)>

 

Yes, a long shot considering the circumstances--but there's always the

chance Lance will stop off for a pizza and margarita along the way. :>))

 

I'll be happy if Kloden finishes second. Win or loose, these events

wouldn't be half as much fun without astrology.

 

I was able to get into Texas vital statistics for birth records on line

yesterday, in an attempt to get Lance's birth time, but unfortunately

they only list the day with no exact times.

 

 

 

 

>

>

> I prefer the Mercury-Regulus image -- Armstrong will be the record

> holder

> for the Tour and arguably the best cyclist ever. Hail Mercury!

 

Yes, unless of course the universe, in it's infinite wisdom, has another

plan....

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

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cynthianovak wrote:

 

> Birth and death records are kept private. They will only release to

> the

> individual or if he is dead to next of kin to proves it. When I was

> in

> insurance investigator they were public. You could literally walk in

> to the

> county clerk's office and open the book. Alas, I learned this law

> when I

> tried to convince a worker to give me Laura Bush's birth time.

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

Thanks---I should have remembered that this was the case for Texas,

since George W's time only came by way of someone persuading a hospital

employee to give it out.

 

This is also the case for Arkansas--where I have spent much time trying

to get Clintons BC time. I spoke with Clintons half brother a few weeks

ago, in a last ditch attempt to get it--but he didn't have it.

 

>

>

> I finally pulled up Armstrong's chart. What a powerful Mars Rahu in

> Cap.

> They say he is better at ignoring physical pain than anyone

> else...where

> might that be in the chart?

 

Good question---I have no answer. Never exactly looked for that in a

chart--maybe the Mars/Saturn connection has something to do with it.

 

 

 

>

>

> Notice that Uranus square Saturn next year. He may truly stop after

> this

> record win this year. I heard that he said he would stop last year

> too.

> I'd imagine that any mortal would want to stop after such an endurance

>

> trial.

 

Word is that he intends to focus on other races than the Tour de France,

and not go into retirement---of course the planets may have another

agenda.

 

>

>

> Do you think that Mars Rahu is on the ASC? SUrely it's near an angle.

>

> Since he has cancer, perhaps that indicates the Rahu on the ASC???

> What are

> your thoughts?

 

I think Mars could occupy any one of the angles--that would be a good

place to start. He had testicular, abdominal, lung and brain

cancer--diagnosed on Oct 2, 1996 and on Oct 3 had surgery to remove 1

testicle.

Mars has got to be strong somewhere, to make up for loosing one of the

'boys'.

 

I'm giving him Aries rising for starters-- a time of 9:35 PM--this

places Mars precisely square the Asc with 4 planets in Virgo in the 6th

house.

This time gives 25 Scorpio rising for the current Lunar Return that

started on July 21st.

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

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Steve

 

Thanks for the update. Since the last leg is largely ceremonial (the riders

often wear wigs and funny clothes!), there is no way Armstrong can lose

unless there is some kind of drug disqualification.

 

Perhaps that might be the avenue for the full-on debilitated Martian energy.

I can't see it, but if you've got money riding on Kloden, there's always

hope!!! :-)>

 

I prefer the Mercury-Regulus image -- Armstrong will be the record holder

for the Tour and arguably the best cyclist ever. Hail Mercury!

 

Chris

 

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" Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara

 

Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:05 PM

Re: Tour de France

 

 

>

>

> An update on the Tour de France:

>

> Andrea Kloden moved into 2nd place today (July 24th) after an

> outstanding performance and moved past Basso. I expect Kloden to either

> win or finish 2nd (from a previous post) due to transiting Mars moving

> to near exact trine, along with transiting Pluto, to Kloden's natal

> Jupiter. Venus is also moving into position now by sextile. At the very

> least, he should make another grand effort tomorrow.

>

> He is still 6 minutes 38 seconds behind Armstrong, followed closely by

> Basso at 6:59 and Ullich at 9:00.

>

> Armstrong is so far ahead at this point, that no one will catch him,

> unless there is some sort of catastrophic accident tomorrow.

>

> Some planetary observations for tomorrow:

>

> Mercury will make it's exact conjunction to the star Regulus, primary

> marking star in the nakshatra of Magha. Regulus is one of the four royal

> stars of Persia and is associated with kings and royalty.

>

> Mercury will also be Rx back over this point in August, so we can expect

> to hear news of royal matters in genera for the next couple of

> monthsl--Charles' engagement to Camilla perhaps?

>

>

> Mercury (IMO) is associated with cycling, so one possible translation of

> tomorrow's conjunction--a cycling king is crowned. Another

> interpretation: a Mercurial king is crowned: (Armstrong is a Virgo and

> Kloden is a Gemini).

>

> " King " would be more representative of Armstrong is this case, since if

> he wins, he will indeed become the King of the Tour de France, having

> won 6 times.

>

> Mars, the planet of athletes, is nearing it's point of deep

> debilitation, 28 Cancer (opposite it's exaltation at 28 Capricorn).

> Could mean trouble of some sort to athletes? Just throwing out some

> possibilities here.

>

>

> Best,

>

> Steve

>

>

>

>

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Dear Steve

I could make a good argument for the ARies ASC, I think you're on to

something there.

 

I believe it is a nation wide law that restricts birth and death

information. Unless my memory is off, it had to do with folks adopting

another's identity for illegal immigration, financial identity theft etc.

So, if you knew a person was dead and when he was born you could more easily

fake that identity

 

Has anyonhe looked at the planetary placements just before the Republican

Convention? Yipes!

 

c

 

 

Steven Stuckey [shastrakara]

Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:31 PM

Re: Tour de France

 

 

 

 

cynthianovak wrote:

 

> Birth and death records are kept private. They will only release to

> the

> individual or if he is dead to next of kin to proves it. When I was

> in

> insurance investigator they were public. You could literally walk in

> to the

> county clerk's office and open the book. Alas, I learned this law

> when I

> tried to convince a worker to give me Laura Bush's birth time.

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

Thanks---I should have remembered that this was the case for Texas,

since George W's time only came by way of someone persuading a hospital

employee to give it out.

 

This is also the case for Arkansas--where I have spent much time trying

to get Clintons BC time. I spoke with Clintons half brother a few weeks

ago, in a last ditch attempt to get it--but he didn't have it.

 

>

>

> I finally pulled up Armstrong's chart. What a powerful Mars Rahu in

> Cap.

> They say he is better at ignoring physical pain than anyone

> else...where

> might that be in the chart?

 

Good question---I have no answer. Never exactly looked for that in a

chart--maybe the Mars/Saturn connection has something to do with it.

 

 

 

>

>

> Notice that Uranus square Saturn next year. He may truly stop after

> this

> record win this year. I heard that he said he would stop last year

> too.

> I'd imagine that any mortal would want to stop after such an endurance

>

> trial.

 

Word is that he intends to focus on other races than the Tour de France,

and not go into retirement---of course the planets may have another

agenda.

 

>

>

> Do you think that Mars Rahu is on the ASC? SUrely it's near an angle.

>

> Since he has cancer, perhaps that indicates the Rahu on the ASC???

> What are

> your thoughts?

 

I think Mars could occupy any one of the angles--that would be a good

place to start. He had testicular, abdominal, lung and brain

cancer--diagnosed on Oct 2, 1996 and on Oct 3 had surgery to remove 1

testicle.

Mars has got to be strong somewhere, to make up for loosing one of the

'boys'.

 

I'm giving him Aries rising for starters-- a time of 9:35 PM--this

places Mars precisely square the Asc with 4 planets in Virgo in the 6th

house.

This time gives 25 Scorpio rising for the current Lunar Return that

started on July 21st.

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

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> Dear Steve

> I could make a good argument for the ARies ASC, I think you're on to

> something there.

 

> I believe it is a nation wide law that restricts birth and death

> information.

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

It's actually state by state. You can get anything you want in

California.

 

I purchased a copy of Cruz Bustamante's birth certificate from the

county clerk of Visalia for $15.00 last summer before the election here.

 

They wanted to know for what reason and I told them " astrological

research " --no problemo, as Schwarzenegger would say.

 

You can go online to vital statistics and get any date in Texas, but not

the exact time of course.

 

Here's a link:

 

 

http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/

 

 

 

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Steve

 

 

 

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Yes, but...

 

While tNeptune does conjunct Armstrong's Mars it _trines his natal Uranus.

Venus opposes Pluto as the race ends signifying the very first of its kind,

in this case a first time 6 wins fits best...tMoon while on tKetu at clock

noon Sunday aspects VE and PL by 45 & 135.

 

Too late to look at your Kloden but I quickly see he is in the throes of his

first Saturn

return and thinking he can't do absolute acme on this.

 

Best,

Dark*Star

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> The transiting Neptune is also moving back to slightly over a degree out

> from his natal Mars by conjunction and approaching.

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Thanks STeve

 

I did not know about this site. HAve you tried Anybirthday.com

 

I've gotten some data there that I could not find anywhere else. Helps if

there is an unusual last name

 

Thanks AGain

c

 

 

Steven Stuckey [shastrakara]

Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:51 PM

Re: Tour de France

 

 

 

 

cynthianovak wrote:

 

> Dear Steve

> I could make a good argument for the ARies ASC, I think you're on to

> something there.

 

> I believe it is a nation wide law that restricts birth and death

> information.

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

It's actually state by state. You can get anything you want in

California.

 

I purchased a copy of Cruz Bustamante's birth certificate from the

county clerk of Visalia for $15.00 last summer before the election here.

 

They wanted to know for what reason and I told them " astrological

research " --no problemo, as Schwarzenegger would say.

 

You can go online to vital statistics and get any date in Texas, but not

the exact time of course.

 

Here's a link:

 

 

http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/

 

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

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Dear Steve

Did you try the membership? I think I will try it for a month, just

wondered if you had and how you like it.

 

cynthia

Steven Stuckey [shastrakara]

Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:51 PM

Re: Tour de France

 

 

 

 

cynthianovak wrote:

 

> Dear Steve

> I could make a good argument for the ARies ASC, I think you're on to

> something there.

 

> I believe it is a nation wide law that restricts birth and death

> information.

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

It's actually state by state. You can get anything you want in

California.

 

I purchased a copy of Cruz Bustamante's birth certificate from the

county clerk of Visalia for $15.00 last summer before the election here.

 

They wanted to know for what reason and I told them " astrological

research " --no problemo, as Schwarzenegger would say.

 

You can go online to vital statistics and get any date in Texas, but not

the exact time of course.

 

Here's a link:

 

 

http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/

 

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

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cynthianovak wrote:

 

> Thanks STeve

>

> I did not know about this site. HAve you tried Anybirthday.com

>

> I've gotten some data there that I could not find anywhere else.

> Helps if

> there is an unusual last name

 

HI Cynthia,

 

Anybirthday.com can give data, but leaves much to be desired--very

often, what you are looking for isn't there.

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

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> Dear Steve

> Did you try the membership? I think I will try it for a month, just

> wondered if you had and how you like it.

>

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

I've never tried the membership, but there is a way you can trial it for

free:

 

For user name type in: vitalguest

For password type in : enjoy

 

This gets you in, but I think in a limited fashion. You can scroll

through the records a page at a time with this, but if you try to skip

to the end, to speed up your search, you will need a membership. I'm not

an expert at this by any means.

 

Make a note that the records are arranged by surname *and* by year--so

you will have to do a lot of scrolling to get to years that are more

current.

 

http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/

 

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

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thank you

I'll give it a try tomorrow

c

 

 

Steven Stuckey [shastrakara]

Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:14 PM

Re: Tour de France

 

 

 

 

cynthianovak wrote:

 

> Dear Steve

> Did you try the membership? I think I will try it for a month, just

> wondered if you had and how you like it.

>

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

I've never tried the membership, but there is a way you can trial it for

free:

 

For user name type in: vitalguest

For password type in : enjoy

 

This gets you in, but I think in a limited fashion. You can scroll

through the records a page at a time with this, but if you try to skip

to the end, to speed up your search, you will need a membership. I'm not

an expert at this by any means.

 

Make a note that the records are arranged by surname *and* by year--so

you will have to do a lot of scrolling to get to years that are more

current.

 

http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com/

 

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

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Hi,

 

I found on the internet an elegant rectification worked up for Lance

Armstrong that impressed me so much I replaced the working time

I had used to predict his win. It is 2:00 pm. (Scorpio rising) and

produces sterling results. Have a look.

 

I would have preferred to see him lose for hubris. His wife

living since 1998 with his arrogance and selfishness reminds me of

someone who puts her husband through medical school only to have

him take up with someone else.

 

Armstrong's powerful drive towards cancer was only diverted by

his absorption in racing. When he cuts it back it could start to

devour his body all over again. That 'boy' still hanging around

will have to go. He has dumped his wife...bad move...and taken

up with the high profile Sheila Crow. Her name is a black portend.

 

Predictably,

Dark*Star

 

 

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Dark Star wrote:

 

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> Hi,

>

> I found on the internet an elegant rectification worked up for Lance

> Armstrong that impressed me so much I replaced the working time

> I had used to predict his win. It is 2:00 pm. (Scorpio rising) and

> produces sterling results. Have a look.

 

Hi Dark Star,

 

Thanks for this time--I'll check it out. I plan to take some time this

week to see if I can contact Lance's mother in Texas (if she still lives

there).

I'll let you know if I have any luck.

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

 

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Last update:

 

Lance Armstrong won the Tour de France for the sixth straight time and

broke the previous record of five victories held by several cyclists.

 

Congrats to Chris for his correct assessment on helio and tertiary helio

transits for the win (but this doesn't mean I've become a convert Chris)

:>))

 

Andrea Kloden was able to hold on to second place and gained about 39

seconds over his time from the previous day and finished 6:19 behind

Armstrong.

 

Kloden was followed in order by Basso and Ullrich.

 

The order of finish of the last three was consistent overall with their

simple transits to natal planets (IMO).

 

Transiting Neptune was obviously too far out (slightly over a degree and

approaching) to the natal Mars to cause trouble. Last year, Neptune was

within a degree and wrecked all sorts of havoc on Armstorng during the

race (although not preventing him from the ultimate win).

 

Transiting Mercury coming into exact opposition to the 2003 Solar Return

Mars/Uranus conjunction was obviously not a factor here (most likely due

to not being picked up on angles of the progressed return). We can't

know for certain on this until we are able to get an accurate time of

birth.

 

The very minor transit of Mercury square natal Neptune/Jupiter may have

caused an incident with an Italian racer on the last day who pulled out

ahead of Lance inappropriately and was later overtaken. A French cyclist

also pulled a humorous stunt by pulling out ahead and taking a picture

with a camera held at arms length of himself in front of Armstrong.

Lance's downing of a glass of champagne from a fluted champagne glass

while still in the saddle on his ride into Paris may have spent the

final effects of this transit. :>))

 

Simple transits to natal planets can yield great results, especially in

lieu of other techniques that rely on an accurate birth time to give any

result.. But obviously they are not enough in themselves to always give

the correct answer.

 

 

Best,

 

Steve

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Chris lad, when did you go helio.eccentric?

D*

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>

> Resistance is futile! Submit to your Heliocentric Overlords! :-)

>

> Chris

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> " Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara

>

> > Congrats to Chris for his correct assessment on helio and tertiary helio

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Resistance is futile! Submit to your Heliocentric Overlords! :-)

 

Chris

 

 

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" Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara

 

Monday, July 26, 2004 8:31 AM

Re: Tour de France

 

 

>

>

> Last update:

>

> Lance Armstrong won the Tour de France for the sixth straight time and

> broke the previous record of five victories held by several cyclists.

>

> Congrats to Chris for his correct assessment on helio and tertiary helio

> transits for the win (but this doesn't mean I've become a convert Chris)

> :>))

>

> Andrea Kloden was able to hold on to second place and gained about 39

> seconds over his time from the previous day and finished 6:19 behind

> Armstrong.

>

> Kloden was followed in order by Basso and Ullrich.

>

> The order of finish of the last three was consistent overall with their

> simple transits to natal planets (IMO).

>

> Transiting Neptune was obviously too far out (slightly over a degree and

> approaching) to the natal Mars to cause trouble. Last year, Neptune was

> within a degree and wrecked all sorts of havoc on Armstorng during the

> race (although not preventing him from the ultimate win).

>

> Transiting Mercury coming into exact opposition to the 2003 Solar Return

> Mars/Uranus conjunction was obviously not a factor here (most likely due

> to not being picked up on angles of the progressed return). We can't

> know for certain on this until we are able to get an accurate time of

> birth.

>

> The very minor transit of Mercury square natal Neptune/Jupiter may have

> caused an incident with an Italian racer on the last day who pulled out

> ahead of Lance inappropriately and was later overtaken. A French cyclist

> also pulled a humorous stunt by pulling out ahead and taking a picture

> with a camera held at arms length of himself in front of Armstrong.

> Lance's downing of a glass of champagne from a fluted champagne glass

> while still in the saddle on his ride into Paris may have spent the

> final effects of this transit. :>))

>

> Simple transits to natal planets can yield great results, especially in

> lieu of other techniques that rely on an accurate birth time to give any

> result.. But obviously they are not enough in themselves to always give

> the correct answer.

>

>

> Best,

>

> Steve

>

>

>

>

>

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D* -- Over the last year. It wasn't a switch that somebody pulled -- just a

gradual inclusion of another perspective. A bit like learning to add dijon

mustard on hamburgers. It really adds to the flavour.

 

Christopher

 

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" Dark Star " <pansophia

 

Monday, July 26, 2004 4:27 PM

Re: Tour de France

 

 

>

> Chris lad, when did you go helio.eccentric?

> D*

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> Christopher Kevill wrote:

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> > Steve

> >

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> >

> > Chris

> >

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> > " Steven Stuckey " <shastrakara

> >

> > > Congrats to Chris for his correct assessment on helio and tertiary

helio

>

>

>

>

>

> " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " -----

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Christopher Kevill wrote:

 

> Steve

>

> Resistance is futile! Submit to your Heliocentric Overlords! :-)

>

>

 

Chris,

 

I'm gradually working my way to the Sun--Om Suryaya Namaha--but in the

meantime I'm stuck on Ceres-centric. Here, parallax Earth is the only

option and Rx stations work out quiite well also--something that's gone

missing in helio...:>))

 

 

Steve

 

 

 

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