Divisional Charts

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At 05:20 PM 12/3/03 -0800, Chris wrote:

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>Therese wrote:

> Perhaps the only way to attempt to study these divisional charts is with

>> groups of charts, all of which share something similar in life. If they do

>> indeed work, eventually they could be used for rectification.

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>Chris wrote:

>Right. And yet even with well-timed births such as twins, where at least

>the second time will likely be very accurate, it is so easy to get the time

>wrong. And if the time is wrong even by a minute, then the ascendant of the

>D60 chart is thrown into doubt.

 

We have to begin with broader strokes than the D60 chart, for example, the

navamsa. (For list members who aren't Vedic astrologers, D60 means dividing

a sign into 60 parts of 30 minutes each.)

 

I find the that situation to be unworkable

>since no time is that accurate. And even if it is, one still enters into

the thorny issue of when karma starts.

 

Edgar Cayce said that approximately 20 percent of horoscopes won't be

accurate because the use of free will overshadows the natal indications.

However, if a chart such as the D60 or navamsa shows, for example, the

social status of the parents, this won't be affected by free will. This is

simply a fact.

 

In some cases, I think the soul may not enter the person at the time of the

first breath.

 

Cayce gave all kinds of entering times for the soul, someimes before and

sometimes after birth. However, he said that the correct horoscope to use

was the usual birth chart. This is probably because that is the chart of

the body's initial independent existence.

 

>I agree navamsha is important and often it DOES reveal critical differences

>in the lives of twins. While I have been playing around with the notion of

>the cross-over or overlay charts, I have yet to find a systematic template

>for them...but finding a methodical approach to them to assess planetary

and house strength remains elusive. What is your experience with them?

 

I can give a few examples. I have many examples, but they're not at my

fingertips right now. I'm in the middle of a massive sorting of papers and

horoscopes.

 

(1) As I remember (subject to correction when I find the charts), when I

did a study of therapy nurses, a common contact was Venus to the Moon

(major aspects) in the natal chart. Suppose nurses 4 and 6 had no

Moon-Venus aspects. Then nurse 4 would have navamsa Venus crossing over to

the natal ascendant (close orb) and nurse 6 would have navamsa Venus

crossing to natal Moon, again with a fairly small orb.

 

(2) Planets in the navamsa chart that cross to the natal ascendant (small

orb) will generally (maybe always) fit the psychological profile of the

person. This is beginning with planetary profiles for each planet. I use

Cayce's definitions of the planets--I have the CD with all his readings and

several books as well. With many hundreds (thousands?) of life eadings,

he's pretty thorough on the planets. I also use Garth Allen's book and the

Gauquelin findings. They're all pretty much the same, sometimes disagreeing

with Tropical interpretaion, however.

 

(3) If I'm studying a planet in a group of charts, such as Mercury for

software engineers--say Saturn is generally with Mercury--if there isn't a

natal aspect, these planets will tend to be conjunct or in square or

opposition in the navamsa chart. Or there will be a crossover.

 

I haven't found navamsa planets--as such--important in natal chart houses

unless they are very close to an equal house cusp. I don't have anything

definite on this yet. I also don't have anything on navamsa houses as such,

though it seems that planets in the angular navamsa houses (for accurate

birth times) may be important in the person's life. These may not be

'houses' so much as hard aspects to the ascendant--always by sign.

 

(4) I've found the situation of Venus and its navamsa aspects (hard

aspects) revealing in homosexual charts. Also the navamsa 7th house ruler,

but I'm not too trusting of that yet.

 

(5) Hard aspects to the Moon in the navamsa seem to describe a person's

planetary profiles. The orb can't be too wide--I haven't worked the

allowable orb out yet.

 

So these are some examples of how I'm studying the navamsa chart. Having

way too much cardinality and mutability in my horoscope (only one planet is

in a fixed sidereal sign--Mercury), I have MANY projects at the halfway

stage. I'm trying to correct that now by first getting everything organized

and filed. This is a MAJOR job--over 25 years worth of research, and it's

going very slowly due to other demands on my time.

 

Therese