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Hi Therese

 

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The War

In regard to the Oil War I am really suprised that still Bush is

backed by near 70% of the americans.

Probably they would like to know that as times goes on, outside of

the States, people don't agree with what is happening in Irak. Almost

everybody thinks it is an absurd war,but worst of all, it is illegal

and inmoral.

In my previous email I mentioned that Bush needed a short war,

because if prolongued it would be like a boomerang, he would face

more problems than he originally thought.

Now that they are approaching Baghdad comes the real problem.

Because it was safety for the troops to bomb the city with missiles

and airplanes, but now they will have to fight in the streets.

And the casualties will increase in geometric proportion, and

consequently, if Saddam is not deposed quickly, the americans will

start turning their backs against Bush. And his chances for being

reelected could be jeopardized.

 

Astrological observations

 

This is another seasonable moment to check the chart for USA.

 

But please tell me how and when it will be possible, to obtain a

consensus about the most plausible chart if like in the case shown

below, astrologers accept as " a proof " of validity of their

charts " the connections made between tertiary progressions, secondary

and primary, and what is worst, like if 10 planets were not enough,

they add vernal points and the ominous asteroids?

 

Hadn't you ever thought that reasoning in that way you are bound to

find always connections between the charts, no matter which charts

you take?

 

I don't want to promote or to participate in sterile debates, but

really it demoralizes me to find that sound discernment is put aside

simply because this is an esoteric discipline.

 

I want to formulate a curious question to all the members of this

list, is there anybody here who has studied statistics and

probabilities?

 

Please let me know. I think here lies the origin of the problem.

 

Alfonso Osorio

 

 

 

, " Anny van Berckel "

<avbdk@x> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Juan!

>

> Thanks for the Baghdad time! The Boydchart is connected

> closely with Saddam Hussein's tertiair chart 28 March 2003. I

> am considering a certificate, a Frenchman saw once with his own

> eyes, via a Iraq friend. GMT 7:53:53 GMT in Tikrit.

> > Boyd chart's rx Saturn 12Vi18'=conj Mercury tertiair

> 28/03/03 12Virgo44'

> > MC Boydchart 8II42' is square Saddam's tertiair sun 9Vi34'

> > Neptune Boydchart 29Leo39' conjunct tertiair Neptune 0Vi

29'

> > Transpluto Boydch 11Pi32'=conj tertiair Ju 11Pi00'Saddam

> > Zeus, ruler Leo,(Uranian astrology) = the soldiers ruler,

> occupies Baghdad's IV = opp tr Zeus in X tert.Saddam conj

> Vesta/Saturnus Boydchart.

> > Boiydchart's Zeus also occupies the IV house Saddam's tert.

> and conjuncts Saddam's Vernal Point/Admetos tertiair: to

> start heavy work and fire in the earth.

> > Boydchart's Pallas Athena 09Sco19'=conj.Saddam's tert. Asc.

> 09Sc03

> > Boydchart's Vesta 7Capr.27'Retro is conj tert.Mars 7Capr59'

> in tert house II and VII radix Saddam.

> > Saddam Hussein's Mc is in Pisces what explains his interest

> for Neptune ruled weapons. Venus ruler XII radix is conj.MC

> His is aware of secret enemies: Venus conjunct Hades in IX

=

> the 12th house of his Xth house. Too much to prolong the

> delineation. The Uranian astrology is telling me much more

> in combination with the traditional planetes.

> to prolong.

>

> Regards,

> Anny

>

>

> Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:04:48 -0600

> jar@e...

> the horoscope of Baghdad

>

> very detailed documentary data of the foundation horoscope can be

found

> here:

>

> http://archnet.org/library/documents/one-document.tcl?

document_id=3776

>

> The correct date according to the modern reconstruction of the

horoscope is

> July 31st, 762 AD. The exact hour is 13h57m Baghdad time.

Coordinates of

> Baghdad are 33N18' 56 " , 44E23' 31 "

>

> Juan

>

>

>

>

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Sun, 30 Mar 2003 16:05:23 -0000

" brianrhiggins2003 " <brianrhiggins

esoteric and exoteric zodiac

 

The building of the Tholos at Epidaurus (360-400 BC) coincided with

the writing of Plato's Timaeus. In Timaeus, he describes the

creation of the world in accordance with two cycles. This is the key

text:

 

" This entire compound he (the creator) divided lengthways into two

parts, which he joined to one another at the centre like the letter

X, and bent them into a circular form, connecting them with

themselves and each other at the point opposite to their original

meeting-point; and, comprehending them in a uniform revolution upon

the same axis, he made the one the outer and the other the inner

circle. Now the motion of the outer circle he called the motion of

the same, and the motion of the inner circle the motion of the other

or diverse. The motion of the same he carried round by the side to

the right, and the motion of the diverse diagonally to the left. And

he gave dominion to the motion of the same and like, for that he left

single and undivided; but the inner motion he divided in six places

and made seven unequal circles having their intervals in ratios of

two-and-three, three of each, and bade the orbits proceed in a

direction opposite to one another; and three [sun, Mercury, Venus] he

made to move with equal swiftness, and the remaining four [Moon,

Saturn, Mars, Jupiter] to move with unequal swiftness to the three

and to one another, but in due proportion. "

 

 

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