Gandhi, Michael Jackson and zodiac signs

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At 02:00 AM 1/11/03 -0000, Robin wrote:

>Yeah...here's another for the debate. How about Michael Jackson. A

>tropical VIRGO. Hmmmmmm, the personification of purity, service and

>self-sacrifice? I don't think so! But as a sidreal LEO.......there

>ya go. What's the name of his ranch? Never-never land!!! The kid

>who will never grow up......never wants to. Has pluto in the 4th and

>mars in the 12th.

>

>Oh, and re one of your other posts........OF COURSE Venus people

>don't lead battles (re the war monger in Manila)!

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Hi Robin,

 

Thanks for your posts! This is a western sidereal board, though, and I'm

not sure how regulars on this board think of the signs. I don't believe

they consider the triplicities of the signs (such as Aries-Leo-Sagittarius)

in terms of the elements like the Tropical astrologers do, though the lords

of each triplicity are harmonious with each other.

 

For example what you call the fire triplicity (Aries,Leo,Sag) won't have

the meaning of Tropical 'fire' in the sidereal zodiac. But their associated

planets of Mars, Sun and Jupiter happily co-exist together.

 

In Indian astrology (Jyotish or what is called 'Vedic') the signs are

reference points for their ruling planets, but the signs don't have a lot

of meaning in and of themselves. (This isn't to say that the signs don't

mean anything, only that traditional Indian astrology doesn't give them

very many characteristics.)

 

The problem with giving a few examples of people who seem to express their

signs is that you will probably find just as many examples that don't seem

to work (in EITHER zodiac). At least this is my experience. I'm still

trying to figure out how to demonstrate that the sidereal signs DO

work...at least 75-80 percent of the time. It's possible to demonstrate

that PRECESSION works with solar return charts, but that's not the same

thing as showing that Aries is Aries, for example.

 

What about Gandhi's Asc, Mercury, Venus and Mars all being in sidereal

Libra? (I tend to give a Tropical 'water' coloring to sidereal Libra. Sign

lord Venus is an emotional planet and exalted Saturn can be serious and

morose.)

 

And I have already written an entire book on the signs....sigh....easy to

write a book but not so easy to back it up. All those astrology books out

there are trillions of words with hardly any support for what they say.

 

Anyhow, thanks for your examples!

 

Terese