Guest guest Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 , " flyfishergal2001 <horizons@p...> " <horizons@p...> wrote: > Oh Ed.......you don't know me from Adam (or Eve for that matter). > Trust me, I am not an easy sale for anyone or any concept. I don't > change my colors lightly or frivously. If something hits me like a > ton of bricks, I know.......being a very, very BRIGHT intelligent > person that there's some truth to it. I don't think he was lying. > He made sense to me. > > But the GOOD news is......we (you, I and this Juan guy with the > Centaur site) can believe anything we want! That " site " was only a > precursor in the illumination of the VERY real astronomical concept > of precessesion. Which ultimately led me to the sidereal studies. > And boy am I glad! That article on this site, in fact, talking about > sidereal Sag's.....where they give the example of the person who was > made out to be a Cap Sun......but their life experience was totally > Sag? Well, that's me in a nutshell! I choose to believe concepts > and ideas based on factual realities but also on personal experience > and observations. > > Are you saying that I am also ignorant? Heck, tell that to the > multitudes of people I help out on a daily basis with their very real > problems. I am an Ace investigator and thinker. And I trust my gut > and my brain. > > I don't know.......I just wonder why you spend time on this board > trying to convince the very few people who want to study sidereal. > It's much like a drinking man who chooses to drink right on the > sidewalk outside an AA meeting and begrudging all the fools who go to > the meetings and stay sober......but really, all that guy wants to do > is GO IN and be a part of the sober life that so many enjoy. > > That's a bona fide question, Ed. I don't understand......given that > there are 1000s of sites and millions of people who share the > tropical view every single day, why you (and a few others) just want > to debate this when it really doesn't matter what any of us think? > You are a member of the majority class when it comes to astrology. > And as far as I can tell, there is little likelihood that us few > siderealists (or siderealists " becoming " ) can or will ever want to > remove the foundation from which you base your beliefs. What's the > threat? I just don't understand. > > But I will say......that the fodder you give certainly HELPS us to > become more entrenched in sidereal. Which ultimately REALLY well > help give us a leg up to keep sidereal alive. It seems that you are > pretty much CREATING the very threat to your belief system that you > feel soooooooo passionate about defending and preserving. It's like > a self-fulfilling prophecy! > > Oh well.......let me leave in my dream world. At least I really WILL > be in the constellation that I say I am in! Don't mean to ruffle any > feathers here.......but, gosh.....calling ANYONE ignorant is just > mean-spirited. And that doesn't jive with any reasonable philosophy > or science or anything. There's no justification for it. I mean, do > you maybe want to SEE this guy's site before making such a rash > judgment. He's pretty darned bright. And you should just SEE the > astronomy program he wrote AND gives away for free. Ignorant doesn't > seem to fit for this guy. > > Robin > > , " Ed Kohout <crumpo@e...> " > <crumpo@e...> wrote: Woops, meant to change the last subject line to put your name in it. Sorry! And hey, just read where you ditched the higher educational tract because of the " writing on the wall. " But you felt compelled to THROW IN that you got an MA. So.......it seems you DO buy into the perceived value of an MA.......as you just had to illustrate that you, too, have more legitimacy BECAUSE you got an MA. My oldest brother......he was just about done with PHd from Stanford.....he was Mr. Excel.......but he dropped out of the program because, as he saw it, his supervisor wasn't being fair to him. Quite a price to pay to give up a doctorate.......esp when, in my mind, if you are 3 months from it, you just ditch it. It was ARROGANCE that impeded him from continuing. And from what I experience of you here...in the barrage of insults to people here and to people who aren't even here......Perhaps YOUR life lesson is about taming your own arrogance in yourself. It IS arrogant to quit or denigrate others when they don't tow your line. Tell ya what......just as a challenge (you seem to like those).......convert YOUR chart to sidereal......and tell me what your sidereal North Node sign is (and the house). And I will give you a reading on that. And you can judge for yourself. You can just blow me off if you want.......but just give me and all the others here a chance to at least respond to you with the tools we really believe ARE valid and relevant. Sidereal, tropical......it doesn't really matter. We are all human beings on this earth......and honestly, we all have ONE purpose, and that is to become caring, compassionate people. You have kind of a ways to go (and so do I, believe me!). But HOW we each explain the mysterious world we live in and make sense of it.......is really up to each individual. And we should ALL follow whatever belief systems work for us.......because in the end........ALL belief systems are valid; we will ........in a LONG time historically speaking.....end up in the very same place. Enlightnenment. But it doesn't do any good to cut our fellow man off at the knees on our own journey. In fact, it just causes you, yourself, to stumble and therefore you might just arrive late to the ultimate party. I don't know.......ya just got under my skin today. But my offer stands. Let me give you a sidreal NN (and pluto for that matter) reading.....and you can judge it however you want. Robin > > , " flyfishergal2001 > > <horizons@p...> " <horizons@p...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > until your message board (a discussion > > > about finding the exact location of Lilith) illustrated to me > that > > > tropical has nothing to do with astronomy! I was aghast! > > > > Robin, > > > > Whoever told you this was either ignorant or lying, > > > > All modern stellar positions are measured in Right Ascension, which > > is tropical by its very definition. > > > > Very best, > > Ed K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 At 08:10 AM 1/13/03 -0800, Damon wrote: > >I know he has hidden his birth info well but he sure sounds like a sidereal Libra or sidereal Aquarius. But if I was a gambling man, I would put money on sidereal capricorn because they never like me. None of these, not for the Sun anyway. Why don't we all get with simple astrology. It's MARS, guys, plain and simple...the planet Mars for any fight. One for all and all for one: Mars. Terese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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