Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 Damon has posted his birth data and some biographic details, so let's look at his horoscope. (September 12, 1972, 21:30, Kansas City, MO) I'm using the Krishnamurti ayanamsa. Planetary positions will be 59 minutes greater than with the Fagan-Bradley ayanamsa. I generally just make the mental adjustment of 1 degree from Fagan-Bradley to Krishnamurti. 16Aries31 rises. The first thing I look for is any planets close to 16 degrees in any sign. There is only one planet, Venus at 12 Cancer. This tells me that Venus activities will be important in the life. " Besides my true talent is in computer illustration and graphic design. " " ...and [i've] had success with the opposite and same sex... " (Also note that the 10th lord, Saturn [10th is ‘what one does,'] is in Taurus, a sign of Venus. This makes the angular Venus the dispositor of Saturn--describes how Saturn manifests.) Also note that Venus is in mutual reception to the Moon in Libra in the 7th (sex and relationships). So the only planets that Venus disposits relate to Saturn (10th and 11th lord...11th is income) and the 7th. (Nothing here about the personality or temperament.) Then I set up a second chart, either mentally or on paper. This is the Moon chart, the chart for the personality. The Moon is at 27Libra38. Whoa....what do we have!! A very close sextile from the Sun at 27 Leo conjunct Mars at 25 Leo. This makes a VERY strong Mars-Sun influence on the personality (because they both closely aspect the Moon and they're both in a strong sign for their expression). " I have always been bossy, athletic, proud, bold...Not to mention a quick temper and an eagerness to engage in fisticuffs with the largest competitor I could find. " Mercury at 21 Leo happens to be conjunct Mars, so we have the rough language this guy uses (apparently with ease). (Note that I've used planetary dispositors and the position of Venus in relation to the ascendant degree, but haven't given any special qualities to the signs as such.) Just for fun let's record the Moon's nakshatra influence from DeFouw's LIGHT ON LIFE. This nakshatra (lunar mansion) is the true location of the stars of Libra, the scales in the sky. " Vishakha is the conqueror, fixated on defeating rivals. Goals form one of the primary meanings of this nakshatra...they tend to present their findings so aggressively that they alienate rivals... " If we take the symbolism of the starry scales, they have to do with justice, with balancing the scales (violently if necessary). Getting even maybe, setting everything right. I don't agree with a lot of what DeFouw says about the nakshatras, but sometimes he's fairly accurate. ----- This is a strongly masculine chart. Mercury/Mars/Sun/Moon/Jupiter/Rahu/Ketu are all in masculine signs. Masculine signs are generally self-motivated and do their own thing. Autonomous. I wouldn't want to be this guy's girlfriend. Yet he WILL find women (and men?) attracted to him because of the prominent Venus. " (Re: relationships)... " I just don't let everyone in my head to manipulate what they read. " Now in addition I consider the navamsa chart. More masculine signs: Leo rises and the Sun is in Sagittarius. This Sun closely opposes the Moon, so we are going to get an even stronger solar influence on the personality (see Damon's Sun-Mars comments above). There is no doubt that Mars is a potent planet for Damon. In the navamsa chart Mars is at **16** degrees of Scorpio...very strong in Scorpio AND right on the natal 8th cusp. Same degree as the ascendant (an example of why I changed to the Krishnamurti ayanamsa....this Mars would be far from a natal cusp using the Fagan/Bradley ayanamsa.) Now Leo itself MAY have its own attributes. They would be like Virgo in the Tropical zodiac, that is, dedication to work and accomplishment, an ability to organize. (Tropical Virgo isn't detail conscious no matter what all the books say.) Mercury rules details. Damon works with computer design. Are computers Uranian? If so, Uranus rises in Leo in the navamsa chart and of course is in the same sign as natal Mercury/Mars/Sun. I do make a separation between activities (related to the ascendant) and personality (related to the Moon). I would not give any particular traits to the Aries ascendant because there are no planets there. What matters is that the ascendant lord Mars is in Leo conjunct a powerful Sun and both aspect the Moon. ALSO...the navamsa ascendant degree is 28 Leo, very close to the natal Sun-Mars conjunction. So in this sidereal chart there is a quadruple whammy involving the Sun and Mars. Terese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Thank you for doing those calculations for me Terese. " Mercury at 21 Leo happens to be conjunct Mars, so we have the rough language this guy uses (apparently with ease). " Not only am I an Air Force brat, I have been in several military schools and athletics teams. Rough language is just what comes out when there are nothing but a bunch of guys together. I am still trying to get a mental picture of my friends, associates and tropical astrology advocates so it is hard for me to understand anyone that doesn't speak with unrestrained emotion (rough language) " I wouldn't want to be this guy's girlfriend. Yet he WILL find women (and men?) attracted to him because of the prominent Venus. " Why don't you ask her she is a member of the group. (mhawk81082)_ Most of the women in my family (my grandmother, my mother, 8 aunts, 10 female cousins and my older half sister) have masculine tendencies) I can't shout louder or talk more than they can. " Vishakha is the conqueror, fixated on defeating rivals. Goals form one of the primary meanings of this nakshatra...they tend to present their findings so aggressively that they alienate rivals... " This describes the style of conversation most used by my grandmother and aunts. Mhawk and I have a question. How do we find Rahu and Ketu in our charts? What do they symbolize? The enclosed file has no significance to astrology it is just some of our early digital photography. I have gotten a lot better since this one. Thanks again Terese, *****/////Michelle (August 10 1982, Barberton, Ohio; 7:30 AM) and Damon Terese Hamilton <eastwest wrote: Damon has posted his birth data and some biographic details, so let's look at his horoscope. (September 12, 1972, 21:30, Kansas City, MO) I'm using the Krishnamurti ayanamsa. Planetary positions will be 59 minutes greater than with the Fagan-Bradley ayanamsa. I generally just make the mental adjustment of 1 degree from Fagan-Bradley to Krishnamurti. 16Aries31 rises. The first thing I look for is any planets close to 16 degrees in any sign. There is only one planet, Venus at 12 Cancer. This tells me that Venus activities will be important in the life. " Besides my true talent is in computer illustration and graphic design. " " ...and [i've] had success with the opposite and same sex... " (Also note that the 10th lord, Saturn [10th is ‘what one does,'] is in Taurus, a sign of Venus. This makes the angular Venus the dispositor of Saturn--describes how Saturn manifests.) Also note that Venus is in mutual reception to the Moon in Libra in the 7th (sex and relationships). So the only planets that Venus disposits relate to Saturn (10th and 11th lord...11th is income) and the 7th. (Nothing here about the personality or temperament.) Then I set up a second chart, either mentally or on paper. This is the Moon chart, the chart for the personality. The Moon is at 27Libra38. Whoa....what do we have!! A very close sextile from the Sun at 27 Leo conjunct Mars at 25 Leo. This makes a VERY strong Mars-Sun influence on the personality (because they both closely aspect the Moon and they're both in a strong sign for their expression). " I have always been bossy, athletic, proud, bold...Not to mention a quick temper and an eagerness to engage in fisticuffs with the largest competitor I could find. " Mercury at 21 Leo happens to be conjunct Mars, so we have the rough language this guy uses (apparently with ease). (Note that I've used planetary dispositors and the position of Venus in relation to the ascendant degree, but haven't given any special qualities to the signs as such.) Just for fun let's record the Moon's nakshatra influence from DeFouw's LIGHT ON LIFE. This nakshatra (lunar mansion) is the true location of the stars of Libra, the scales in the sky. " Vishakha is the conqueror, fixated on defeating rivals. Goals form one of the primary meanings of this nakshatra...they tend to present their findings so aggressively that they alienate rivals... " If we take the symbolism of the starry scales, they have to do with justice, with balancing the scales (violently if necessary). Getting even maybe, setting everything right. I don't agree with a lot of what DeFouw says about the nakshatras, but sometimes he's fairly accurate. ----- This is a strongly masculine chart. Mercury/Mars/Sun/Moon/Jupiter/Rahu/Ketu are all in masculine signs. Masculine signs are generally self-motivated and do their own thing. Autonomous. I wouldn't want to be this guy's girlfriend. Yet he WILL find women (and men?) attracted to him because of the prominent Venus. " (Re: relationships)... " I just don't let everyone in my head to manipulate what they read. " Now in addition I consider the navamsa chart. More masculine signs: Leo rises and the Sun is in Sagittarius. This Sun closely opposes the Moon, so we are going to get an even stronger solar influence on the personality (see Damon's Sun-Mars comments above). There is no doubt that Mars is a potent planet for Damon. In the navamsa chart Mars is at **16** degrees of Scorpio...very strong in Scorpio AND right on the natal 8th cusp. Same degree as the ascendant (an example of why I changed to the Krishnamurti ayanamsa....this Mars would be far from a natal cusp using the Fagan/Bradley ayanamsa.) Now Leo itself MAY have its own attributes. They would be like Virgo in the Tropical zodiac, that is, dedication to work and accomplishment, an ability to organize. (Tropical Virgo isn't detail conscious no matter what all the books say.) Mercury rules details. Damon works with computer design. Are computers Uranian? If so, Uranus rises in Leo in the navamsa chart and of course is in the same sign as natal Mercury/Mars/Sun. I do make a separation between activities (related to the ascendant) and personality (related to the Moon). I would not give any particular traits to the Aries ascendant because there are no planets there. What matters is that the ascendant lord Mars is in Leo conjunct a powerful Sun and both aspect the Moon. ALSO...the navamsa ascendant degree is 28 Leo, very close to the natal Sun-Mars conjunction. So in this sidereal chart there is a quadruple whammy involving the Sun and Mars. Terese " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- Post message: Subscribe: - Un: - List owner: -owner Shortcut URL to this page: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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