Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 At 08:09 PM 12/19/02 -0000, Ed K wrote: >Er, well, we'll see about that. There are many problems with your >efforts here...The first is that you have presented limited data on >13 people, out of the millions who have had a Moon/Mars square. Oh, you have university degrees in research and statistics? I do too (in counseling psychology which includes research and statistics) from the University of California at Berkeley and San Fransciso State University. B.A. and M.A. There were only a handful of people for each aspect I asked for in ADB. Mars in X sign in the 7th house square the Moon in 10th. The only charts that I eliminated were those with a very wide Moon-Mars orb....Oh, and a UFO sigting. >Then, you offer nothing as a control group. We are not yet at the stage of astro research where we use control groups. (Although Mars in its fall vs. Mars exalted in Capricorn control each other.) For reference, please go to astrodatabank.com and read Mark McDonough's " Every Astrologer a Researcher. " This tells us where we currently are re: astrological research. Mark is a professional researcher and a computer programmer. The proper way to argue this Mars-Moon square point, Ed, is to present some biographies of your own with the same Mars in 7th square Moon in 10th in the appropriate signs in the Tropical zodiac. Chill out Hon, and try doing some good research of your own. You might be surprised at what you'd find. Terese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:46:32 -0800, Terese Hamilton kirjoitti: >There were only a handful of people for each aspect I asked for in ADB. >Mars in X sign in the 7th house square the Moon in 10th. The only charts >that I eliminated were those with a very wide Moon-Mars orb....Oh, and a >UFO sigting. Terese, I noticed that in many of your examples the orb for Moon square Mars was more than 15º. In one case it was more than 21º! I then assumed that you were just looking at charts in which the Moon & Mars square each other _by sign_. Now I am a little bit unclear as to what your criterion was. Could you please explain? Risto Vartiainen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 In a message dated 12/19/2002 4:51:00 PM Central Standard Time, eastwest writes: > astrodatabank.com thanks for leading me to this site. /// wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2002 Report Share Posted December 22, 2002 At 08:07 PM 12/20/02 -0000, Ed K wrote: > >As for the statistics, your sampling was faulty on a number of >counts, as I will list: > >1) No control group (meaning that you offered no charts with other >Moon/Mars aspects to see if the same kins of people might show up) I think I just answered this in another post re: Mark McDonough's methods. >3) The examples cited are accompanied by basically NO data on the >individual, but instead useless brief synopses of the lives that >offer us no real insights into the life Sorry, this is what ADB offers. We have to work with what we have. It was obvious from the bios which lives were successful and productive. I agree that we could use a lot more bio information. Astrologers do have clients with extensive bio information, but have you ever tried to get a group of astrologers together to systematically research anything? The Rodden/McDonough database is the best we have to work with at this time. Just think...some years ago we all calculated our charts by hand. Ten years from now (barring some great catastrophe) we will probably have much better data collections from which to work. One step at a time, one step a time.....(also applies to your #4) >This list is not exhaustive, either. To see how a proper study is >done, see " Signs of Mental Illness " by Gibson. Sounds like a good book to check out. >So, you had a class or two on statistics!?! You must have been >sleeping through class. Or maybe I just have a bad memory. >> There were only a handful of people for each aspect I asked for in >ADB. > >Which disqualifies the study immediately. No, please read Mark Mcdonough's article. Ed, it isn't in my nature to argue theoretical concerns. I simply do studies, publish the results, and leave it up to the reader to complain or build on the studies. The Moon-Mars material I put on this list was (as I said before) the second level of Mark's research pyramid. It wasn't meant to be a 'study,' only a small demonstration, a first attempt at showing the effect of Mars in different signs of the zodiac. I think it was Alfonso who explained very clearly what I was doing. Just think of all you could offer astrology if you put all your energy into investigating astrology instead of arguing various points and pointing out what is wrong with everyone's efforts (as you see it). :) Terese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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