Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 In a message dated 12/20/2002 6:22:49 PM Central Standard Time, risto.vartiainen writes: > 21º orb we were taught 5degrees! yikes. i think the widest orb was permissible if surrounding the primary angles. but . . . well, i've done very little research. OH BY THE WAY: WHERE DO I FIND THE DEGREE SYMBOL ON MY KEYBOARD. I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO USE IT! thanks / / / chris wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 In a message dated 12/20/2002 7:16:36 PM Central Standard Time, crumpo writes: > Hold down your ALT key and type 0176. > thanks to the nth° Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2002 Report Share Posted December 21, 2002 Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:17:19 -0800, Terese Hamilton kirjoitti: >By wide orbs (which I should have explained), I meant Mars in the first few >degrees of the sign aspecting the Moon in the last three degrees. I was >surprised that the wider orbs seemed to be effective, like the 21 degree >orb. That is REALLY wide by western standards, but accepted as normal in >India. OK! Thanks for explaining how you were looking at those squares, Terese. For myself, I still would prefer to look at aspects either straight from sign to sign OR with a much more limited orb. I really cannot easily make a difference between an acceptable 21º orb and not acceptable 26º (maybe?) orb, both within the signs squaring each other. Looking forwards to your upcoming website for more info on your findings... Risto V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2002 Report Share Posted December 21, 2002 , cpwing44@a... wrote: WHERE DO I FIND THE DEGREE SYMBOL ON MY KEYBOARD. Hold down your ALT key and type 0176. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2002 Report Share Posted December 22, 2002 At 02:20 AM 12/21/02 +0200, Risto wrote: >OK! Thanks for explaining how you were looking at those squares, >Terese. For myself, I still would prefer to look at aspects either >straight from sign to sign OR with a much more limited orb. I really >cannot easily make a difference between an acceptable 21º orb and not >acceptable 26º (maybe?) orb, both within the signs squaring each >other. I think we'd need to do a lot of reserach to settle the orb question. There is SO much in astrology that we need to study, but mostly all most people do is talk and/or argue. >Looking forward to your upcoming website for more info on your findings. Thank you. I wish several of us could work together on research. It's a lot more fun and more productive. Like I said, most people have boundless energy with which to talk and/or argue (especially on the internet), but very little energy with which to actually do the nitty gritty of research. Terese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2002 Report Share Posted December 23, 2002 , Terese Hamilton <eastwest@s...> wrote: > I wish several of us could work together on research. Me too. Mundane stuff seems best for this. Here's one that is bothering me. I saw a story about this on the TV tonite, and it seemed like it was important. Its a well-timed event chart for a huge catastrophe in Canada -- the biggest explosion until the atom bomb in 1945: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kylet1/halifax.htm Chart is Dec 6, 1917, 9:05 (maybe a minute earlier?) AST (+4:00), Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, 44N39 63W36. Should get 2 Cap rising. It doesn't look too much like a huge catastrophe, but the Sun is aligned with the nodes of Uranus, and the moon is square to Sun, but the ASC seems to be lacking an aspect to something of volatility, although the MC is on the cusp of Scorpio and on the Sun/Mars midpoint. - Ed K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2002 Report Share Posted December 24, 2002 I used my favorite tool on this event (a progressed lunar return) and came up with the chart I posted in the files section. (Never can get my links to work). I also posted the Speculm for the progressed Demi-Caplunar and the transits at the time of the explosion. What caught my attention right away was that the progressed Demi-Caplunar had the same angles as a chart done for the event, the same as the progressed Demi-Caplunar done for the dropping of the Atomic Bomb had for that event. The right ascension of the Moon in the QPDCPL (Quotidian progressed demi-Caplunar) was the same as the midpoint of Sat\Plu, all square the MC and that Sun\Mars midpoint. Bob " Ed Kohout <crumpo " <crumpo wrote: .... Here's one that is bothering me. I saw a story about this on the TV tonite, and it seemed like it was important. Its a well-timed event chart for a huge catastrophe in Canada -- the biggest explosion until the atom bomb in 1945: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kylet1/halifax.htm Chart is Dec 6, 1917, 9:05 (maybe a minute earlier?) AST (+4:00), Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, 44N39 63W36. Should get 2 Cap rising. It doesn't look too much like a huge catastrophe, but the Sun is aligned with the nodes of Uranus, and the moon is square to Sun, but the ASC seems to be lacking an aspect to something of volatility, although the MC is on the cusp of Scorpio and on the Sun/Mars midpoint. - Ed K Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2002 Report Share Posted December 26, 2002 Hi there, This looks rather promising, but can I ask you to explain this technique to myself and the other uninitiated? Is the ingress tropical? Such mathematical certainty is indisputable. Does Alamogordo also fit this pattern? Thanks, Ed K , Robert Nicewander <jan61108> wrote: > > I used my favorite tool on this event (a progressed lunar return) and came up with the chart I posted in the files section. (Never can get my links to work). I also posted the Speculm for the progressed Demi-Caplunar and the transits at the time of the explosion. > What caught my attention right away was that the progressed Demi- Caplunar had the same angles as a chart done for the event, the same as the progressed Demi-Caplunar done for the dropping of the Atomic Bomb had for that event. > The right ascension of the Moon in the QPDCPL (Quotidian progressed demi-Caplunar) was the same as the midpoint of Sat\Plu, all square the MC and that Sun\Mars midpoint. > Bob > " Ed Kohout <crumpo@e...> " <crumpo@e...> wrote: > ... > > > Here's one that is bothering me. I saw a story about this on the TV > tonite, and it seemed like it was important. Its a well-timed event > chart for a huge catastrophe in Canada -- the biggest explosion until > the atom bomb in 1945: > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kylet1/halifax.htm > > Chart is Dec 6, 1917, 9:05 (maybe a minute earlier?) AST (+4:00), > Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, 44N39 63W36. Should get 2 Cap rising. > > It doesn't look too much like a huge catastrophe, but the Sun is > aligned with the nodes of Uranus, and the moon is square to Sun, but > the ASC seems to be lacking an aspect to something of volatility, > although the MC is on the cusp of Scorpio and on the Sun/Mars > midpoint. > > - Ed K > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2002 Report Share Posted December 27, 2002 Hi Ed, If you send me your email address I will send you a copy of the programs I wrote to progress the solar and lunar returns. The ingresses and lunar returns I use are precession corrected, but you may use the Sidereal zodiac if you prefer. I do not use houses or signs in my work so I do not care which Zodiac I use. I use what occurs or exists naturaly not what someone surmises to be a fact such as a house system, rulerships, exaltations, falls, detriments, signs, etc. ad nauseum. What I have found to be important in progressed lunars are the angles and points square to them by 90 degrees of right ascension, planetary positions in right ascension and their midpoints measured in right ascension. I have a webpage with a progressed Sidereal Caplunar for the attack on the World Trade Center. It is an amazing chart. But it could have been produced on every point on the earth's surface at that latitude. What tied it to that place, at that time, was the natal and progressed chart for the 5 boroughs of New York becoming a single political entity. Through the years I have seen hundreds, nay, thousands, of progressed lunars with the same kinds of results. If you apply the technique to situations of your own or others you will see the same kind of results, time after time. I believe I have material that I can post in the files that shows how to do the progressions of the planets and angles of the lunar returns by hand. I have not done so because I have been afraid that someone with more experience in programming would steal my work and I have been offering my programs for sale to try and get back on my feet after going belly-up over the last 3 years. The chart for the first Atomic Bomb test do not give the same results but there are some very interesting charts to be seen when using the chart for the first controlled nuclear reaction with them and other related charts. Bob " Ed Kohout <crumpo " <crumpo wrote:Hi there, This looks rather promising, but can I ask you to explain this technique to myself and the other uninitiated? Is the ingress tropical? Such mathematical certainty is indisputable. Does Alamogordo also fit this pattern? Thanks, Ed K , Robert Nicewander <jan61108> wrote: > > I used my favorite tool on this event (a progressed lunar return) and came up with the chart I posted in the files section. (Never can get my links to work). I also posted the Speculm for the progressed Demi-Caplunar and the transits at the time of the explosion. > What caught my attention right away was that the progressed Demi- Caplunar had the same angles as a chart done for the event, the same as the progressed Demi-Caplunar done for the dropping of the Atomic Bomb had for that event. > The right ascension of the Moon in the QPDCPL (Quotidian progressed demi-Caplunar) was the same as the midpoint of Sat\Plu, all square the MC and that Sun\Mars midpoint. > Bob > " Ed Kohout <crumpo@e...> " <crumpo@e...> wrote: > ... > > > Here's one that is bothering me. I saw a story about this on the TV > tonite, and it seemed like it was important. Its a well-timed event > chart for a huge catastrophe in Canada -- the biggest explosion until > the atom bomb in 1945: > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kylet1/halifax.htm > > Chart is Dec 6, 1917, 9:05 (maybe a minute earlier?) AST (+4:00), > Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, 44N39 63W36. Should get 2 Cap rising. > > It doesn't look too much like a huge catastrophe, but the Sun is > aligned with the nodes of Uranus, and the moon is square to Sun, but > the ASC seems to be lacking an aspect to something of volatility, > although the MC is on the cusp of Scorpio and on the Sun/Mars > midpoint. > > - Ed K > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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