Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 Endless Ed.... Sorry studing the vertex has been useless for you. It's been that way for some others so u got company. What is sad is your grasp of astrology. You're opinion of signs is rather strange.... Signs are one of the basic premises of astrology. well ok then.... Try re-reading the previous posts... who knows you might get something out of it... Weren't you the one who mentioned Gleadow as someone to read? A re-visit for you may be helpful. Don't let the door hit you on the way out... Jivio --- " Ed Kohout <crumpo " <crumpo wrote: > , Juan > Oliver <jivio> > wrote: > > Jivio, > > For starters, you speak of the Vertex as some sort > of valid point, of > which it is not. Why is this point useful? Have > you seen how it is > calculated? If so, why is this worth a darn? > > Then, you start waxing philosophical about Mars in > some sign meaning > this or that, which becomes an excercise in the > vague. > > Your agrument about the problem with sidereal vs > tropical people and > thier inability to listen to one another as the > reason why so few use > sidereal is without much umpf. The reason why so > few use sidereal is > that it is simply bad and outdated astrology -- as > arteficial as the > Sun is bright. > > The notion that signs have some special power to > change the meaning > of planets that might pass through them is simply > hogwash, no matter > what zodiac one uses. Rulership schemes are equally > silly, and only > serve to confuse the neophytes, who must un-learn > much to go beyond > the beginner level. That's why the Dr. has asked > you the rhetorical > question about what your planet is " in. " > > - Ed Kohout > > > > > Yo... Doc... > > > > You seem like an intelligent individual but your > > question strikes me as being simplistic. > > > > Mars being in Scorpio or Libra by itself does not > > determine whether there is " violence " in this > forum. > > > > Siderealist's operate within a technical > perspective. > > We don't operate in the context of " What is your > Sun > > sign? " > > > > Have you read much about Sidereal? Not Vedic, > > Sidereal? > > Have you read anything by Cavender, Bowser or > Fannin? > > > > The perspective of constellational astrology is > > fascinating and offers a " different " complexity > than > > seasonal astrology. > > To many Siderealist's the SVP is an important > element > > in delineation. Solstice points are considered > very > > relative in understanding transitions in cyclical > > behavior. > > > > I (We) look at the power of the planets and the > > various divisions within our sphere of existence. > > The Divisions are the various angles. ASC, MC, > > DEC,IC,VERTEX,EP, Anti-VERTEX, WP, and squares to > the > > EP/WP and VERTEX/Anti-VERTEX. > > Mars in Libra does not express the > passion/diligence > > of Scorpio but it is representative of a > strong-willed > > intellect. > > > > The unfortunate thing between tropicalists and > > siderealists is the inability to listen. As Game, > > pointed out in a previous post.... It gets > emotional > > and then confrontational. > > The perspective of the astrologies are different. > To > > understand Sidereal you need to leave the > perspective > > of Tropical. You may not want to do that but you > may > > never go back if you do. > > > > Suggest you do your chart in the sidereal and do a > > mundoscope/prime vertical chart.... I'm curious to > > know what your natal chart looks like matched up > to > > your current location. We are complex > > individuals(humans in general not just > > Siderealists)... If your Sun is located in the > > background(house) and your Mercury in on an > angle(in a > > different sign) would you see or recognize the > > individual in their Sun Sign or in their " active " > > Mercury? > > > > Jivio > > > > > > --- DRStarman2001@a... wrote: > > > In a message dated 12/18/2002 10:58:51 AM > Eastern > > > Standard Time, > > > writes: > > > > > > > >. I'd check your transits. I've noticed that > > > elsewhere on line the > > > > >sweetest people have been combative lately > > > > > > > > mars/venus/neptune all are in aspect these few > > > days. /// wing > > > > > > > > > > *******Mars is in Scorpio by the tropical > zodiac. I > > > expected arguments and > > > violence during this time. Well, what's the > > > explanation for all the violence > > > sidereally, as it's still in the constellation > > > Libra? > > > -starman > > > http://www.DrStarman.net > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close > to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: > - > Un: > - > List owner: > -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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