Sidereal zodiac

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, fireandthorn wrote:

> , " Yerwurst Neitmayer "

> <karmabum15237> wrote:¨

>

> Hey Kevin,

> nice to see you making garbage in your list :

 

The only person who ever made garbage here was you, Panu.

 

> > Panu Myllyniemi is not a true sidereal astrologer.

>

> Are you serious ? Your definition for sidereal astrologer is quite

> odd.

 

No, Panu's is. A sidereal astrologer bases the zodiacal longitudes

on the stars, and corrects for precession when calculating transits.

But Panu doesn't correct for precession. All Panu does is add 30

degrees to the current Tropical longitude, because you're under the

mistaken impression the Age of Aquarius is underway.

 

> > But, if he's right, the Babylonians were idiots when they gave

> > the major stars such easy longitudes to remember, like Aldeberan

> > at 15* Taurus, Regulus at 5* Leo, Spica at 29* Virgo, and

> > Antares at 15* Scorpio

>

> Babylonians astrology was not made for same purposes than astrology

> nowadays. It was not individual interpretation at all. We cannot

> estimate their zodiacal degrees for same meanings or purposes. That

> should be understood automatically, even you Kevin.

 

We don't have to " estimate their zodiacal degrees " . We already know

what they are. And the fact that Babylonian astrology wasn't

concerned with the average individual hasn't kept people who use the

Fagan-Bradley or Lahiri ayanamsas from being successful.

 

> > (did you know that if you use Panu's " ayanamsa " , Regulus

> > isn't even in the constellation Leo?). And not only that, but

> > Fagan and Bradley were idiots, too.

>

> Do you know what happens when using Fagan´s (or Lahiri´s) zodiacal

> degrees ? It goes this way :

> - Eastern fish (in Pisces) belongs constellation Aries where the

> fishes are also bounded to each other.

> - The Leo´s head is cut off. It belongs now constellation cancer.

> - The Virgos legs are cut off as a whole they now belonging to

> constellation Libra.

> - The libra is damaged in the middle of scales they belonging then

> constellation Scorpio.

> - Scorpio´s nail and sting are cut, they belongs now constellation

> sagittarius.

 

Wrong or irrelavant on all counts. Besides, according to Panu, Spica

is at 4* Libra instead of 29* Virgo.

 

> So, what is the definition of sidereal astrology ? Think about

> again. I think you are aware of these facts, but you don´t

> mention them. Perhaps it´s because you dont give any meaning to

> signs anyway. Still, you argue with these things.

 

You're the one who argues, Panu. That's because the facts don't fit

your beliefs. And your beliefs include the blatantly idiotic notion

that every astrologer who ever lived stumbled in darkness until you

came along. Such arrogance will get you nowhere.

 

BTW, to keep Panu off this list, all new members are moderated. They

become full members after they've proved to my satisfaction that they

are who they say they are, and not Panu.

 

Later,

Kevin