Heliocentric

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Paola,

 

Please take my writings as the musings of a student. I am also trying to

figure out where and who I am.

 

That said, soul is who I am on an astral, ethereal, non-physical level. It

is like my psychology, my personality. It is connected to the physical,

because it is made by dreams and memories of physical realities, and also

emotions. Spirit is who I am on a pure light, spiritual level. This level

is very non-personal. So in this regard, it is no longer me as an

individual. It is that part of me that is simply a fragment of the Oneness.

So when we are looking at the Sun, we are really looking at a very

non-personal aspect of ourselves. In Western astrology, people tend to

project a lot onto their Sun sign, and I feel that this leads to some degree

of illusions about ourselves, because we are really talking about something

that we could only see if we shed our basic personality. The Sun at the

time of birth represents the energy available to us for creation of our

dream. But what we create is probably more defined by the Earth and Moon

signs. I do not have much experience with heliocentric charts, maybe you

should ask somebody else. But I think it is an interesting perspective. I

think probably when you look at the heliocentric chart for when you were

born, it is the energy of Spirit that was manifest at that time. It is not

who you are, but who Spirit was the moment you were created. And you are an

expression of that Spirit, and have that energy available to you. But you

also may not be able to look at the chart with a truly objective

perspective. Emphasis on the Sun is very symptomatic of current Western

paradigms. Older traditions place more importance on the patterns and

positions of the Moon. Maybe soon we are in for a new fusion of the two

hemispheres?

 

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David Ray

Woodstock, NY 12498

bluerodent

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----Original Message Follows----

serafime

 

 

The Heliocentric Perspective

Sat, 06 Oct 2001 22:34:38 -0000

 

" A heliocentric chart is going to show me where my

spirit is, not my soul or my body "

 

<<how do you distringuish between soul and spirit?

 

" In charts I tend to look at the Earth

(rising) sign and Moon sign before the Sun. "

 

<<are you speaking geocentrically or heliocentrically also?

 

<<well, heliocentrically, i am practically all water, all feminine,

receptive energies, except my earth sign which is in aries. my

heliocentric self seems more coherent and aligned, in possession of

more raw aristic energy (this is just off of placements not aspects

or midpoints, etc). while geocentrically, i am intuitive,

heliocentric seems to represent a more direct expression of certain

esoteric energies that i've known were there, a certain depth i feel

my geo chart overlooks. i guess i don't know how much import to give

to it though. your words have helped, however, in lending some more

focus. thank you.

 

-paola

girliepoo>

 

 

 

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