Guest guest Posted August 14, 2000 Report Share Posted August 14, 2000 Hello, everyone. With George Dubbya's Saturn making a hard aspect to his Midheaven, he should be comfortable with authority. With Mercury and Pluto so close to his Ascendant, he should also be able to communicate very well, especially if the message is one of deep transformation. As for the election, I've just finished doing Bush's and Gore's Sidereal Solar Returns. Bush (7/6/00, Austin TX, 1:29:06 CST) has the Lunar Nodes in the immediate foreground (within 2 degrees of the MC/IC axis), an aspect often found in years when the native aquires responsibility. SSR Jupter and Saturn also trine the SSR MC -- and the Saturn trine is partile. Natal Saturn is in partile conjunction to the IC, and sextiles his Natal Saturn -- not as nasty as Gore's SSR Saturn square Natal Saturn (see below). The SSR AS squares the natal AS; the natal MC squares the MC, making them both strong for Bush this year. Bush's Sun, along with SSR Mercury and Mars, is in the background this year. These planets will be important, but latent. I see nothing but good signs for him this year. Gore's SSR (3/31/2000, Washington DC, 8:58:37AMEST), is another story. His SSR foreground planets are the Moon (emotional issues) Saturn (which makes an approaching square to his Natal Saturn -- uh oh!), Uranus (big disruptions and disappointments), and Pluto in the 7th House, only 10 minutes away from the DSC. (My brother had a similar Pluto aspect in the SSR for the year his wife said she wanted a divorce.) Natal planets in Gore's SSR foreground are his Saturn (with SSR Saturn squaring it, can you hear the brakes squeal?) and his partile Mars-Black Moon Lillith opposition, less than one degree away from his MC-IC axis. (Can you say " As cheerful as Saturday night at the local 'goth' hangout " ?) Their Sidereal Solar Quotidians for election day are the same story. Nothing ominous in Bush's (11/7/2000, Austin TX, 1:31:51AM CST), but Gore's (11/7/2000, Washington DC, 8:56:35AM EST) has Pluto in partile conjunction to the Ascendant. Nice knowin' ya, Al. See ya 'round sometime. . . Later, Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:30:24 EDT, aumgn93 wrote: > >Gore's SSR (3/31/2000, Washington DC, 8:58:37AMEST), is another story. His >SSR foreground planets are the Moon (emotional issues) Saturn (which makes an >approaching square to his Natal Saturn -- uh oh!), Uranus (big disruptions >and disappointments), and Pluto in the 7th House, only 10 minutes away from >the DSC. (My brother had a similar Pluto aspect in the SSR for the year his >wife said she wanted a divorce.) Natal planets in Gore's SSR foreground are >his Saturn (with SSR Saturn squaring it, can you hear the brakes squeal?) and >his partile Mars-Black Moon Lillith opposition, less than one degree away >from his MC-IC axis. (Can you say " As cheerful as Saturday night at the local >'goth' hangout " ?) > Hi Kevin! First, I have a question. You wrote: >and Pluto in the 7th House, only 10 minutes away from >the DSC. I cannot see this. - Which Pluto on which 7th house? I glanced at Gore's 2000 SSR chart for the first time in January last year. I got immediately concerned, because - to me - the whole picture looks even quite dangerous. As you said, SSR Uranus is opposing Gore's natal Mars within a degree (accounting for precession). The effects of this are greatly amplified due to their proximity to the SSR MC/IC. Also, considering the natal background: - I use Meridian houses for Gore, and this opposition axis falls right on his natal 2-8 cusps. Previosly I have seen Mars/Uranus aspects on SR's in several cases violent death, especially by firearms. John Lennon, former PM of Sweden Olof Palme, etc. (Incidentally, I suspect that the commonly accepted birth time for JFK may be several minutes in error because, against expectations, the Ma/Ur conjunction in his 1963 SSR is not sufficiently close to the AS.) During this Fall, Uranus will be in transiting opposition to Gore's Ma/Sa conjunction midpoint, which lies exactly on his Meridian 2nd house cusp. His Oct 4 Sidereal Lunar Return has this opposition on its Vx/Avx axis. So, the period of this SLR could contain some risks. Mars will be transiting over his SSR MC and rx.Ma/Sa at the end of this month / beginning of September. This could be an important timer for something, a period of risk - or great independent achievement - and Gore is lucky not to have this exacly triggered by a Lunar Return... nearest of which will follow a whole week later. In addition, his SSR AS magnifies the effect of the tr.Sa-90-rx-Sa as you mentioned, because Sa is a strong foreground planet, near the DS angle. Add to this the SSR AS square to Gore's natal Pluto... this could mean several different things, but in this context definitely adds a touch of fatedness. Of course, Jupiter and Mars are angular, too, near the SSR DS, but Neptune exactly squaring that Mars does not do too much to brighten up the picture. Some significance may also be given to Gore's prog. Mars squaring his natal prog. Sun right now. That might add energy and vitality, but could be a sign of not being able to fully control his energies in and around him. Does anybody else perceive risk and danger in these configurations? Risto Vartiainen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2000 Report Share Posted August 22, 2000 Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:11:48 +0300, Risto Vartiainen wrote: >Mars will be transiting over his SSR MC and rx.Ma/Sa at the end of >this month / beginning of September. This could be an important timer >for something, a period of risk - or great independent achievement - >and Gore is lucky not to have this exacly triggered by a Lunar >Return... nearest of which will follow a whole week later. It just occurred to me... I'd like to ask from those of you, who have studied the effect of Lunations... the Aug 29 New Moon chart does feature quite an exact Ma/Ur opposition, possibly activating Gore's SSR/natal setup. What do you think? - At least I would advice him to stay clear from the exact New Moon Ma/Ur A*C*G rising/setting lines, crossing the central parts of the US... Risto V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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