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Hello, everyone.

 

With George Dubbya's Saturn making a hard aspect to his Midheaven, he should

be comfortable with authority. With Mercury and Pluto so close to his

Ascendant, he should also be able to communicate very well, especially if the

message is one of deep transformation.

 

As for the election, I've just finished doing Bush's and Gore's Sidereal

Solar Returns. Bush (7/6/00, Austin TX, 1:29:06 CST) has the Lunar Nodes in

the immediate foreground (within 2 degrees of the MC/IC axis), an aspect

often found in years when the native aquires responsibility. SSR Jupter and

Saturn also trine the SSR MC -- and the Saturn trine is partile. Natal Saturn

is in partile conjunction to the IC, and sextiles his Natal Saturn -- not as

nasty as Gore's SSR Saturn square Natal Saturn (see below). The SSR AS

squares the natal AS; the natal MC squares the MC, making them both strong

for Bush this year. Bush's Sun, along with SSR Mercury and Mars, is in the

background this year. These planets will be important, but latent. I see

nothing but good signs for him this year.

 

Gore's SSR (3/31/2000, Washington DC, 8:58:37AMEST), is another story. His

SSR foreground planets are the Moon (emotional issues) Saturn (which makes an

approaching square to his Natal Saturn -- uh oh!), Uranus (big disruptions

and disappointments), and Pluto in the 7th House, only 10 minutes away from

the DSC. (My brother had a similar Pluto aspect in the SSR for the year his

wife said she wanted a divorce.) Natal planets in Gore's SSR foreground are

his Saturn (with SSR Saturn squaring it, can you hear the brakes squeal?) and

his partile Mars-Black Moon Lillith opposition, less than one degree away

from his MC-IC axis. (Can you say " As cheerful as Saturday night at the local

'goth' hangout " ?)

 

Their Sidereal Solar Quotidians for election day are the same story. Nothing

ominous in Bush's (11/7/2000, Austin TX, 1:31:51AM CST), but Gore's

(11/7/2000, Washington DC, 8:56:35AM EST) has Pluto in partile conjunction to

the Ascendant. Nice knowin' ya, Al. See ya 'round sometime. . .

 

Later,

Kevin

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Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:30:24 EDT, aumgn93 wrote:

 

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>Gore's SSR (3/31/2000, Washington DC, 8:58:37AMEST), is another story. His

>SSR foreground planets are the Moon (emotional issues) Saturn (which makes an

>approaching square to his Natal Saturn -- uh oh!), Uranus (big disruptions

>and disappointments), and Pluto in the 7th House, only 10 minutes away from

>the DSC. (My brother had a similar Pluto aspect in the SSR for the year his

>wife said she wanted a divorce.) Natal planets in Gore's SSR foreground are

>his Saturn (with SSR Saturn squaring it, can you hear the brakes squeal?) and

>his partile Mars-Black Moon Lillith opposition, less than one degree away

>from his MC-IC axis. (Can you say " As cheerful as Saturday night at the local

>'goth' hangout " ?)

>

Hi Kevin!

 

First, I have a question. You wrote:

 

>and Pluto in the 7th House, only 10 minutes away from

>the DSC.

 

I cannot see this. - Which Pluto on which 7th house?

 

I glanced at Gore's 2000 SSR chart for the first time in January last

year. I got immediately concerned, because - to me - the whole picture

looks even quite dangerous.

 

As you said, SSR Uranus is opposing Gore's natal Mars within a degree

(accounting for precession). The effects of this are greatly amplified

due to their proximity to the SSR MC/IC. Also, considering the natal

background: - I use Meridian houses for Gore, and this opposition axis

falls right on his natal 2-8 cusps.

 

Previosly I have seen Mars/Uranus aspects on SR's in several cases

violent death, especially by firearms. John Lennon, former PM of

Sweden Olof Palme, etc. (Incidentally, I suspect that the commonly

accepted birth time for JFK may be several minutes in error because,

against expectations, the Ma/Ur conjunction in his 1963 SSR is not

sufficiently close to the AS.)

 

During this Fall, Uranus will be in transiting opposition to Gore's

Ma/Sa conjunction midpoint, which lies exactly on his Meridian 2nd

house cusp. His Oct 4 Sidereal Lunar Return has this opposition on its

Vx/Avx axis. So, the period of this SLR could contain some risks.

 

Mars will be transiting over his SSR MC and rx.Ma/Sa at the end of

this month / beginning of September. This could be an important timer

for something, a period of risk - or great independent achievement -

and Gore is lucky not to have this exacly triggered by a Lunar

Return... nearest of which will follow a whole week later.

 

In addition, his SSR AS magnifies the effect of the tr.Sa-90-rx-Sa as

you mentioned, because Sa is a strong foreground planet, near the DS

angle. Add to this the SSR AS square to Gore's natal Pluto... this

could mean several different things, but in this context definitely

adds a touch of fatedness.

 

Of course, Jupiter and Mars are angular, too, near the SSR DS, but

Neptune exactly squaring that Mars does not do too much to brighten up

the picture.

 

Some significance may also be given to Gore's prog. Mars squaring his

natal prog. Sun right now. That might add energy and vitality, but

could be a sign of not being able to fully control his energies in and

around him.

 

Does anybody else perceive risk and danger in these configurations?

 

Risto Vartiainen

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Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:11:48 +0300, Risto Vartiainen wrote:

 

>Mars will be transiting over his SSR MC and rx.Ma/Sa at the end of

>this month / beginning of September. This could be an important timer

>for something, a period of risk - or great independent achievement -

>and Gore is lucky not to have this exacly triggered by a Lunar

>Return... nearest of which will follow a whole week later.

 

It just occurred to me...

 

I'd like to ask from those of you, who have studied the effect of

Lunations... the Aug 29 New Moon chart does feature quite an exact

Ma/Ur opposition, possibly activating Gore's SSR/natal setup. What do

you think? - At least I would advice him to stay clear from the exact

New Moon Ma/Ur A*C*G rising/setting lines, crossing the central parts

of the US...

 

Risto V

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