queries 1 and 2

[Guest guest]

Juan you raised several intriguing topics. Perhaps you could expand on the

brief ideas set forth?

#1. Regarding the merits of the sidereal signs (which is not the same as the

>constellations)

In what way are they not the same?

 

#2. and the tropical signs, I would like to add that modern

>sidereal techniques tend to dispense of the zodiac completely, i.e., they

>don't use the signs (sidereal or otherwise) to make an analysis and

>interpretation.

How does one interpret charts without using the signs of the Zodiac?

 

Thanks In Advance for any illuminations, BB

[Guest guest]

>Breck Breckenridge

<<#1. Regarding the merits of the sidereal signs (which is not the same as

the constellations) In what way are they not the same?>>

 

Siderealists don't use the constellations, they use " sidereal signs " of

exactly 30 degrees each, just like the tropical signs, except that the

starting point or " fiducial " is with respect to the stars. The

constellations, on the contrary, are all of unequal length. Along the

ecliptic, for example, the constellation Cancer takes 20 degrees and Virgo

47 degrees, while Scorpio only 6 degrees (the rest of the " Scorpio " area is

occupied by Ophiucus).

 

 

<<#2. and the tropical signs, I would like to add that modern sidereal

techniques tend to dispense of the zodiac completely, i.e., they don't use

the signs (sidereal or otherwise) to make an analysis and interpretation.

How does one interpret charts without using the signs of the Zodiac?>>

 

By concentrating on the planets (natal, progressed, returns, etc) and their

mutual aspects (especially the hard ones) in relationship to the angles.

All characteristics are derived from the planets themselves and their

different weights or degrees of emphasis. Mundane aspects made by the real

physical points are emphasized and not the ecliptical zero-latitude

longitudes. This is how, for example, astro-cartography was born.

 

Personally, I practically don't use signs at all in my professional

practice. All the psychological characteristics come from the planets and

their combinations, seen in reference to the 4 angles (and their

derivations throughout the houses). Sidereal astrology, in my opinion, is

only secondarily related to interpretations of shifted zodiacal sign

characteristics. Learning to work with sidereal time-units and with the

real physical points instead of with the ecliptical counterparts is more

important.

 

The " feeling " I get from the sidereal signs comes mainly when I consider

the chart of historical personages. For example, when the patriot-warrior

William Wallace was executed in London the 23rd of August 1305, the Sun was

in 7 Virgo tropical, 22 Leo sidereal... which sign do you think represents

William Wallace better?

 

Juan