Guest guest Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Dear List, I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of badhaka planet. So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity or health issue. In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H. But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP readers [ as per my knowledge]. What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues where negative has to be assessed? Hope to get responce, regards, Anurodh. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Dear Anurodh Kumar Please quote the page no, so that one can look up and refresh himself thanks Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear List, I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of badhaka planet. So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity or health issue. In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H. But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP readers [ as per my knowledge]. What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues where negative has to be assessed? Hope to get responce, regards, Anurodh. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Dear Anurodh Kumar, In my humble opinion,and as you are very well aware,a badhaka is a "a planet which wroughts harm on the native of the chart... ", for logevity or death,the VIIIth is also considered along with the badhaka... The badhaka is used in many contexts,particularly those which can inflict severe harm...to the native's interests,in busines,at work, or in any sphere... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear List, I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of badhaka planet. So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity or health issue. In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H. But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP readers [ as per my knowledge]. What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues where negative has to be assessed? Hope to get responce, regards, Anurodh. FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Enjoy this Diwali with Y! India Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Dear Anurodh, Every planet has a good side and negative side,like two sides of a coin. Selective use of Badhaka properties to only specific activities defies commensense and logic.Badhaka properties is essentially a vedic astrology concept.Since it was used only for specific human activities ,to me , means it failed in its application elsewhere. Therefore to call it badhaka would be a misnomer. In KP therefore , significators relating to 6,8,12 houses are termed as negative.yielding properties.you may call it badhaka or anything else. Hence in KP,Badhaka term should be avoided. Regards, Satish -- In , Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote: > > Dear List, > > I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of badhaka planet. > > So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity or health issue. > > In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H. > > But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP readers [ as per my knowledge]. > > What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues where negative has to be assessed? > > Hope to get responce, > > regards, > Anurodh. > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 SOME VIEWS ON BADHAKA 1. KP --- The Bhadhaka houses are the worst malefics for death. --- the worst malefics in cutting one's life without hesitation. It may effect only the health if its dasa or bhukti is ruled by the planet --- KP Reader III & V p 226. 2. Prasna Marga --- a house of harm --- applicable to only horary astrology and not in natal astrology. 3. Jataka Parijata --- an additional condition: the badhaka lord for a particular lagana should be treated as an actual badhaka, if it simultaneously be the lord of the house tenanted by Mandi (Gulika) or Kharesha (Lord of 22 nd drekkana from the lagna). That is why, " Don't worry about it. " --- Dr. M.V. Mehta. 4. V. K. Choudhry (System's Analysis-SA) ---SA doest not believe in ---- maraka planets, --- badhaka principles --- if not closely associated with other functional malefic planet or the most malefic planet, its influence on any planet or the most effective point of a house, would never be bad. 5. Sanjay Rath --- obstruction --- in various forms ---an evil -- -should not be taken lightly --- with neechabhanga rajayoga in badhaka sign, ---- Aurangzeb killed his brothers and imprisoned his father (till death) and grabbed the Mogul Empire. 6. Sumeet Chugh --- " Timing of Events " , badhka Mercury in 2nd house destroyed Tagore's family life; badhaka Saturn in 9 th killed Omar Khayyam's father early in life but that same Saturn in own house with Jupiter gave him sharp intellect to become a mathematician, philosopher and doctor; Henry Bower died in the return from expedition to south pole during Venus dasa of badhaka lord and also 22nd Drekkana in 12th and hemmed between malefics. , " R Satish " <rsatish1942> wrote: > > Dear Anurodh, > > Every planet has a good side and negative side,like two sides of > a coin. > > Selective use of Badhaka properties to only specific activities > defies commensense and logic.Badhaka properties is essentially a > vedic astrology concept.Since it was used only for specific human > activities ,to me , means it failed in its application elsewhere. > Therefore to call it badhaka would be a misnomer. > > In KP therefore , significators relating to 6,8,12 houses are > termed as negative.yielding properties.you may call it badhaka or > anything else. > > Hence in KP,Badhaka term should be avoided. > > Regards, > > Satish -- In , Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> > wrote: > > > > Dear List, > > > > I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of > badhaka planet. > > > > So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity > or health issue. > > > > In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka > concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business > partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done > including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H. > > > > But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP > readers [ as per my knowledge]. > > > > What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet > when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues > where negative has to be assessed? > > > > Hope to get responce, > > > > regards, > > Anurodh. > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Dear Sandy The divisional charts of Vedic, have no place in KP. No research has been done on these by any KP astrologer. On the otherhand a fairly long discussion is going on in the Vedic Astrology group on this Subject: Since late Prof Krishnamurty, based his research, and findings, only on the Vimsottari Dasa,(which is also a primary Dasa in Vedic Astrology), there has been no consideration of other Dasas, like Chara Dasa. Sthirakaras also are out of consideration, as they are based on House occupied by a planet. KP does not give primary importance to this. It is the STAR in which the planet is placed, that is important. The place is of next importance only. Similarly, KP does not place any importance on SADE-SATI, which is a favorite amongst Vedic Astrologers. So, I beleve, it is best not to mix up the KP methods, with Vedic-Methods, especially when there are no definite rules on some matters. As a researcher, you are free to do research, and if you come across certain, conclusions, based on practical studies, I beleive the KP members, would not object to the knowledge. I know one VEDIC-Astrologer GURU, who uses KP aynamsa for timimg events. Personally, I would object, to researched views on basic statements, in KP or Vedic. Good to hear from you after a long time. --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Message 1849 of 6816 > > anant raichur <anant_1608 > Wed Dec 8, 2004 2:16 am > Re: Techniques: KP approved or not? > > Dear Sandy > > The Badhaka Sthanas, and Maraka Sthanas(2,7) are taken into > consideration in KP ONLY WHEN CONSIDERING THE END OF LIFE, and not > for any other event of Life. > > Good Luck > > Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote: > Dear List Members, > > > Before I get myself in trouble again (J) by discussing Vedic > techniques that are NOT KP approved, I thought I'd ask a few > questions of the more seasoned KP practitioners on the list, to get > your opinions on just a few Vedic techniques and their applicability > (or not) to the system of KP. > > > I know the following techniques I am inquiring about may not be the > primary indicators/focus due to the KP strong emphasis on star and > sub-lords, but what I would like to know is if the following > techniques are completely off limits (like the Divisionals are) for > delineation KP style - and therefore have no place in this KP forum – > or if they are acceptable and given due consideration in KP > delineations? > > > Badhakas (troublemakers) and Badhaka Sthanas (trouble spots?) > Chara Karakas (temporary karakas based on priority of highest > planetary degree), and if these are given KP consideration, is Rahu > included in the Chara Karaka scheme (8 planets used), or just the > use of the 7 planet Chara Karakas scheme? What about Sthira Karakas > (fixed significators to assist in timing the death of relatives?) > What about planets falling in Marana Karaka Sthana (indicators that > houses owned by certain planets falling in certain placements will > suffer – like 12th for Sun, 8th for Moon, etc? If this is not a KP > approved technique, has any research been done to date(that anyone > is aware of) to discredit or address when the sub for a planetary > significator falls in Marana Karaka Sthana ? > > > I can think of more techniques, but I'll stop my questions at these. > I'm just trying to discern " what's what " …J because I was blown away > at the non-usage of vargas, so this is a start. > Important to me: I would also like to know if one or two of the > above techniques are acceptable in KP, and a third is not, (or vice- > versa), is it because research has been done indicating that the > technique has already been researched and has no value in KP, or is > it because no one has previously mentioned the technique in their > writings OR done any research on its applicability – therefore it is > not (yet) considered a viable possibility in KP delineation – so it > may or may not be applicable? Just curious…Thanks. > > All the Best, > > Sandy Crowther > > http://www.jupitersweb.com > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > > > Dear Anurodh Kumar, > > In my humble opinion,and as you are > very well aware,a badhaka is a " a planet which wroughts harm on the > native of the chart... " , for logevity or death,the VIIIth is also > considered along with the badhaka... > > The badhaka is used in many > contexts,particularly those which can inflict severe harm...to the > native's interests,in busines,at work, or in any sphere... > > With best wishes, > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of > badhaka planet. > > > > So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity > or health issue. > > > > In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka > concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business > partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done > including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H. > > > > But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP > readers [ as per my knowledge]. > > > > What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet > when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues > where negative has to be assessed? > > > > Hope to get responce, > > > > regards, > > Anurodh. > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group " " on the web. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Dear Mr Raichur, It will be incorrect to state that the divisional charts of Vedic hav no place in KP and no research has been done on these by any KP astrologer. An introduction to "Jyotisha Volume 1: the Krishnamurti Method" by Dr Manish Pandit, says, "Another first is the assimilation of the Krishnamurti Method with traditional Vedic Astrology by the use of divisional charts in every case study". The book is written by a highly qualified practising physician in the UK and "is considered an expert in the Krishnamurti method of astrology for the last 12 years". Hasmukhrai J Mehta, http://www.astroclinica.com anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: Dear SandyThe divisional charts of Vedic, have no place in KP. No research has been done on theseby any KP astrologer. On the otherhand a fairly long discussion is going on in the Vedic Astrology group on this Subject:Since late Prof Krishnamurty, based his research, and findings, only on the VimsottariDasa,(which is also a primary Dasa in Vedic Astrology), there has been no considerationof other Dasas, like Chara Dasa.Sthirakaras also are out of consideration, as they are based on House occupied by aplanet. KP does not give primary importance to this. It is the STAR in which the planetis placed, that is important. The place is of next importance only.Similarly, KP does not place any importance on SADE-SATI, which is a favorite amongstVedic Astrologers. So, I beleve, it is best not to mix up the KP methods, with Vedic-Methods, especiallywhen there are no definite rules on some matters. As a researcher, you are free to do research, and if you come across certain,conclusions, based on practical studies, I beleive the KP members, would not object tothe knowledge.I know one VEDIC-Astrologer GURU, who uses KP aynamsa for timimg events.Personally, I would object, to researched views on basic statements, in KP or Vedic.Good to hear from you after a long time.--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Message 1849 of 6816 > > anant raichur <anant_1608 > Wed Dec 8, 2004 2:16 am > Re: Techniques: KP approved or not? > > Dear Sandy> > The Badhaka Sthanas, and Maraka Sthanas(2,7) are taken into > consideration in KP ONLY WHEN CONSIDERING THE END OF LIFE, and not > for any other event of Life.> > Good Luck> > Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:> Dear List Members,> > > Before I get myself in trouble again (J) by discussing Vedic > techniques that are NOT KP approved, I thought I'd ask a few > questions of the more seasoned KP practitioners on the list, to get > your opinions on just a few Vedic techniques and their applicability > (or not) to the system of KP. > > > I know the following techniques I am inquiring about may not be the > primary indicators/focus due to the KP strong emphasis on star and > sub-lords, but what I would like to know is if the following > techniques are completely off limits (like the Divisionals are) for > delineation KP style - and therefore have no place in this KP forum –> or if they are acceptable and given due consideration in KP > delineations? > > > Badhakas (troublemakers) and Badhaka Sthanas (trouble spots?) > Chara Karakas (temporary karakas based on priority of highest > planetary degree), and if these are given KP consideration, is Rahu > included in the Chara Karaka scheme (8 planets used), or just the > use of the 7 planet Chara Karakas scheme? What about Sthira Karakas > (fixed significators to assist in timing the death of relatives?) > What about planets falling in Marana Karaka Sthana (indicators that > houses owned by certain planets falling in certain placements will > suffer – like 12th for Sun, 8th for Moon, etc? If this is not a KP > approved technique, has any research been done to date(that anyone > is aware of) to discredit or address when the sub for a planetary > significator falls in Marana Karaka Sthana ?> > > I can think of more techniques, but I'll stop my questions at these. > I'm just trying to discern "what's what"…J because I was blown away > at the non-usage of vargas, so this is a start.> Important to me: I would also like to know if one or two of the > above techniques are acceptable in KP, and a third is not, (or vice-> versa), is it because research has been done indicating that the > technique has already been researched and has no value in KP, or is > it because no one has previously mentioned the technique in their > writings OR done any research on its applicability – therefore it is > not (yet) considered a viable possibility in KP delineation – so it > may or may not be applicable? Just curious…Thanks.> > All the Best,> > Sandy Crowther> > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote:> >> > Dear Anurodh Kumar,> > In my humble opinion,and as you are > very well aware,a badhaka is a "a planet which wroughts harm on the > native of the chart... ", for logevity or death,the VIIIth is also > considered along with the badhaka...> > The badhaka is used in many > contexts,particularly those which can inflict severe harm...to the > native's interests,in busines,at work, or in any sphere...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote:> > Dear List,> > > > I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of > badhaka planet.> > > > So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity > or health issue.> > > > In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka > concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business > partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done > including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H.> > > > But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP > readers [ as per my knowledge].> > > > What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet > when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues > where negative has to be assessed?> > > > Hope to get responce,> > > > regards,> > Anurodh.> > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Dear Hasmukhrai ji, It will be incorrect to state that the divisional charts of Vedic hav no place in KP and no research has been done on these by any KP astrologer. An introduction to "Jyotisha Volume 1: the Krishnamurti Method" by Dr Manish Pandit, says, "Another first is the assimilation of the Krishnamurti Method with traditional Vedic Astrology by the use of divisional charts in every case study". The book is written by a highly qualified practising physician in the UK and "is considered an expert in the Krishnamurti method of astrology for the last 12 years". I have this book.Please refer page no: 24 of this book outher write in CORRECT PRIDICTIONS: IN NIMBER7: Kargil war: PVR Narsimha and I predicted it 6 months befor it occured.That means Dr.Manish Pandit has strong SJV ground and so he advocate divisional chart. ferther in his book on page number: 39 in CheptarThe SUB Theory:he write: " krishnamurti was the first person to divide the nakshtra in to 9 unequal proportionate division on the basis of the existent vimshottri dasa system.till that time everybody knew about the divisional chart of the parashra but thesewere based on equal divisions of the rashi or sighn............. on page 40 please read last para. more on page no: 131 outher write : "The rule for divisional chart: "............. for education parashara advocates the use of the chaturvimasamsa chart. the chaturvimasamsa chart must be closely analysed,especially the lagna and the fourth house in chaturvimasamsa along their benefic aspects and the 'grahas' occupying the fourth................this is resonably accurate and can be use as a routine guide. the krishnamurty method does not use this and can give an answer with a great degree of accuracy.one can usually predict with extreme accuracy wheather a person will pass examinations or a perticular examination and as far as my knowledge goes the krishnamurti method is the only way for prediction and it is very accurate." so you say mr. pandit advocate about divisinal chart in KP is not fare and totaly misgide statement. please read this book very care fully.he discuss divisional chart sepratly not with KP.hi give anlysis bith seprat way of using seprat astrology rules. e.g as per KP and after as per divisinal chart. he dsnt mix both. If we pridict everything from only one chart why we use our energe in somany divisional chart and thousand and thousand Yogas?as per you Mr. Pandit have 12 year of experince so we have to accept his statement about krishnamurty padhaty. hopr i am clear this point. regards kanak Hasmukhrai J Mehta, http://www.astroclinica.com anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: Dear SandyThe divisional charts of Vedic, have no place in KP. No research has been done on theseby any KP astrologer. On the otherhand a fairly long discussion is going on in the Vedic Astrology group on this Subject:Since late Prof Krishnamurty, based his research, and findings, only on the VimsottariDasa,(which is also a primary Dasa in Vedic Astrology), there has been no considerationof other Dasas, like Chara Dasa.Sthirakaras also are out of consideration, as they are based on House occupied by aplanet. KP does not give primary importance to this. It is the STAR in which the planetis placed, that is important. The place is of next importance only.Similarly, KP does not place any importance on SADE-SATI, which is a favorite amongstVedic Astrologers. So, I beleve, it is best not to mix up the KP methods, with Vedic-Methods, especiallywhen there are no definite rules on some matters. As a researcher, you are free to do research, and if you come across certain,conclusions, based on practical studies, I beleive the KP members, would not object tothe knowledge.I know one VEDIC-Astrologer GURU, who uses KP aynamsa for timimg events.Personally, I would object, to researched views on basic statements, in KP or Vedic.Good to hear from you after a long time.--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Message 1849 of 6816 > > anant raichur <anant_1608 > Wed Dec 8, 2004 2:16 am > Re: Techniques: KP approved or not? > > Dear Sandy> > The Badhaka Sthanas, and Maraka Sthanas(2,7) are taken into > consideration in KP ONLY WHEN CONSIDERING THE END OF LIFE, and not > for any other event of Life.> > Good Luck> > Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:> Dear List Members,> > > Before I get myself in trouble again (J) by discussing Vedic > techniques that are NOT KP approved, I thought I'd ask a few > questions of the more seasoned KP practitioners on the list, to get > your opinions on just a few Vedic techniques and their applicability > (or not) to the system of KP. > > > I know the following techniques I am inquiring about may not be the > primary indicators/focus due to the KP strong emphasis on star and > sub-lords, but what I would like to know is if the following > techniques are completely off limits (like the Divisionals are) for > delineation KP style - and therefore have no place in this KP forum –> or if they are acceptable and given due consideration in KP > delineations? > > > Badhakas (troublemakers) and Badhaka Sthanas (trouble spots?) > Chara Karakas (temporary karakas based on priority of highest > planetary degree), and if these are given KP consideration, is Rahu > included in the Chara Karaka scheme (8 planets used), or just the > use of the 7 planet Chara Karakas scheme? What about Sthira Karakas > (fixed significators to assist in timing the death of relatives?) > What about planets falling in Marana Karaka Sthana (indicators that > houses owned by certain planets falling in certain placements will > suffer – like 12th for Sun, 8th for Moon, etc? If this is not a KP > approved technique, has any research been done to date(that anyone > is aware of) to discredit or address when the sub for a planetary > significator falls in Marana Karaka Sthana ?> > > I can think of more techniques, but I'll stop my questions at these. > I'm just trying to discern "what's what"…J because I was blown away > at the non-usage of vargas, so this is a start.> Important to me: I would also like to know if one or two of the > above techniques are acceptable in KP, and a third is not, (or vice-> versa), is it because research has been done indicating that the > technique has already been researched and has no value in KP, or is > it because no one has previously mentioned the technique in their > writings OR done any research on its applicability – therefore it is > not (yet) considered a viable possibility in KP delineation – so it > may or may not be applicable? Just curious…Thanks.> > All the Best,> > Sandy Crowther> > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote:> >> > Dear Anurodh Kumar,> > In my humble opinion,and as you are > very well aware,a badhaka is a "a planet which wroughts harm on the > native of the chart... ", for logevity or death,the VIIIth is also > considered along with the badhaka...> > The badhaka is used in many > contexts,particularly those which can inflict severe harm...to the > native's interests,in busines,at work, or in any sphere...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote:> > Dear List,> > > > I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of > badhaka planet.> > > > So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity > or health issue.> > > > In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka > concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business > partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done > including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H.> > > > But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP > readers [ as per my knowledge].> > > > What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet > when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues > where negative has to be assessed?> > > > Hope to get responce,> > > > regards,> > Anurodh.> > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Dear All, Could someone shed light on the role of Navamsa on the basis of the followings. a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the Rasi & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so long explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in astrological books); b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page 217) c/ Research on Navamsa of Navamsa (N.N.) Chart, a new find by KP Kar, K. P. & Astrology Year Book (i) 1996, page 68-69, (ii) 1997 page 81-82; by Dr. J.R.K. Rao, K. P. & Astrology Year Book, page 33-35? Thanks and regards, tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 It was not my opinion. I quoted just what the publishers of the book claimed and mentioned on the last cover page of the book. Anyway, thanks for the clarification. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Kanak Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote: Dear Hasmukhrai ji, It will be incorrect to state that the divisional charts of Vedic hav no place in KP and no research has been done on these by any KP astrologer. An introduction to "Jyotisha Volume 1: the Krishnamurti Method" by Dr Manish Pandit, says, "Another first is the assimilation of the Krishnamurti Method with traditional Vedic Astrology by the use of divisional charts in every case study". The book is written by a highly qualified practising physician in the UK and "is considered an expert in the Krishnamurti method of astrology for the last 12 years". I have this book.Please refer page no: 24 of this book outher write in CORRECT PRIDICTIONS: IN NIMBER7: Kargil war: PVR Narsimha and I predicted it 6 months befor it occured.That means Dr.Manish Pandit has strong SJV ground and so he advocate divisional chart. ferther in his book on page number: 39 in CheptarThe SUB Theory:he write: " krishnamurti was the first person to divide the nakshtra in to 9 unequal proportionate division on the basis of the existent vimshottri dasa system.till that time everybody knew about the divisional chart of the parashra but thesewere based on equal divisions of the rashi or sighn............. on page 40 please read last para. more on page no: 131 outher write : "The rule for divisional chart: "............. for education parashara advocates the use of the chaturvimasamsa chart. the chaturvimasamsa chart must be closely analysed,especially the lagna and the fourth house in chaturvimasamsa along their benefic aspects and the 'grahas' occupying the fourth................this is resonably accurate and can be use as a routine guide. the krishnamurty method does not use this and can give an answer with a great degree of accuracy.one can usually predict with extreme accuracy wheather a person will pass examinations or a perticular examination and as far as my knowledge goes the krishnamurti method is the only way for prediction and it is very accurate." so you say mr. pandit advocate about divisinal chart in KP is not fare and totaly misgide statement. please read this book very care fully.he discuss divisional chart sepratly not with KP.hi give anlysis bith seprat way of using seprat astrology rules. e.g as per KP and after as per divisinal chart. he dsnt mix both. If we pridict everything from only one chart why we use our energe in somany divisional chart and thousand and thousand Yogas?as per you Mr. Pandit have 12 year of experince so we have to accept his statement about krishnamurty padhaty. hopr i am clear this point. regards kanak Hasmukhrai J Mehta, http://www.astroclinica.com anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: Dear SandyThe divisional charts of Vedic, have no place in KP. No research has been done on theseby any KP astrologer. On the otherhand a fairly long discussion is going on in the Vedic Astrology group on this Subject:Since late Prof Krishnamurty, based his research, and findings, only on the VimsottariDasa,(which is also a primary Dasa in Vedic Astrology), there has been no considerationof other Dasas, like Chara Dasa.Sthirakaras also are out of consideration, as they are based on House occupied by aplanet. KP does not give primary importance to this. It is the STAR in which the planetis placed, that is important. The place is of next importance only.Similarly, KP does not place any importance on SADE-SATI, which is a favorite amongstVedic Astrologers. So, I beleve, it is best not to mix up the KP methods, with Vedic-Methods, especiallywhen there are no definite rules on some matters. As a researcher, you are free to do research, and if you come across certain,conclusions, based on practical studies, I beleive the KP members, would not object tothe knowledge.I know one VEDIC-Astrologer GURU, who uses KP aynamsa for timimg events.Personally, I would object, to researched views on basic statements, in KP or Vedic.Good to hear from you after a long time.--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Message 1849 of 6816 > > anant raichur <anant_1608 > Wed Dec 8, 2004 2:16 am > Re: Techniques: KP approved or not? > > Dear Sandy> > The Badhaka Sthanas, and Maraka Sthanas(2,7) are taken into > consideration in KP ONLY WHEN CONSIDERING THE END OF LIFE, and not > for any other event of Life.> > Good Luck> > Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:> Dear List Members,> > > Before I get myself in trouble again (J) by discussing Vedic > techniques that are NOT KP approved, I thought I'd ask a few > questions of the more seasoned KP practitioners on the list, to get > your opinions on just a few Vedic techniques and their applicability > (or not) to the system of KP. > > > I know the following techniques I am inquiring about may not be the > primary indicators/focus due to the KP strong emphasis on star and > sub-lords, but what I would like to know is if the following > techniques are completely off limits (like the Divisionals are) for > delineation KP style - and therefore have no place in this KP forum –> or if they are acceptable and given due consideration in KP > delineations? > > > Badhakas (troublemakers) and Badhaka Sthanas (trouble spots?) > Chara Karakas (temporary karakas based on priority of highest > planetary degree), and if these are given KP consideration, is Rahu > included in the Chara Karaka scheme (8 planets used), or just the > use of the 7 planet Chara Karakas scheme? What about Sthira Karakas > (fixed significators to assist in timing the death of relatives?) > What about planets falling in Marana Karaka Sthana (indicators that > houses owned by certain planets falling in certain placements will > suffer – like 12th for Sun, 8th for Moon, etc? If this is not a KP > approved technique, has any research been done to date(that anyone > is aware of) to discredit or address when the sub for a planetary > significator falls in Marana Karaka Sthana ?> > > I can think of more techniques, but I'll stop my questions at these. > I'm just trying to discern "what's what"…J because I was blown away > at the non-usage of vargas, so this is a start.> Important to me: I would also like to know if one or two of the > above techniques are acceptable in KP, and a third is not, (or vice-> versa), is it because research has been done indicating that the > technique has already been researched and has no value in KP, or is > it because no one has previously mentioned the technique in their > writings OR done any research on its applicability – therefore it is > not (yet) considered a viable possibility in KP delineation – so it > may or may not be applicable? Just curious…Thanks.> > All the Best,> > Sandy Crowther> > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote:> >> > Dear Anurodh Kumar,> > In my humble opinion,and as you are > very well aware,a badhaka is a "a planet which wroughts harm on the > native of the chart... ", for logevity or death,the VIIIth is also > considered along with the badhaka...> > The badhaka is used in many > contexts,particularly those which can inflict severe harm...to the > native's interests,in busines,at work, or in any sphere...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote:> > Dear List,> > > > I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of > badhaka planet.> > > > So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity > or health issue.> > > > In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka > concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business > partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done > including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H.> > > > But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP > readers [ as per my knowledge].> > > > What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet > when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues > where negative has to be assessed?> > > > Hope to get responce,> > > > regards,> > Anurodh.> > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Dear Mr Metha I am sorry, I have not read Dr Manish Pandit's Book. I referred only to the usual 6 readers of KP. It will be interesting to read where Late Prof KSK has referred to or made use of the Divisional Charts. good luck Hasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: Dear Mr Raichur, It will be incorrect to state that the divisional charts of Vedic hav no place in KP and no research has been done on these by any KP astrologer. An introduction to "Jyotisha Volume 1: the Krishnamurti Method" by Dr Manish Pandit, says, "Another first is the assimilation of the Krishnamurti Method with traditional Vedic Astrology by the use of divisional charts in every case study". The book is written by a highly qualified practising physician in the UK and "is considered an expert in the Krishnamurti method of astrology for the last 12 years". Hasmukhrai J Mehta, http://www.astroclinica.com anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: Dear SandyThe divisional charts of Vedic, have no place in KP. No research has been done on theseby any KP astrologer. On the otherhand a fairly long discussion is going on in the Vedic Astrology group on this Subject:Since late Prof Krishnamurty, based his research, and findings, only on the VimsottariDasa,(which is also a primary Dasa in Vedic Astrology), there has been no considerationof other Dasas, like Chara Dasa.Sthirakaras also are out of consideration, as they are based on House occupied by aplanet. KP does not give primary importance to this. It is the STAR in which the planetis placed, that is important. The place is of next importance only.Similarly, KP does not place any importance on SADE-SATI, which is a favorite amongstVedic Astrologers. So, I beleve, it is best not to mix up the KP methods, with Vedic-Methods, especiallywhen there are no definite rules on some matters. As a researcher, you are free to do research, and if you come across certain,conclusions, based on practical studies, I beleive the KP members, would not object tothe knowledge.I know one VEDIC-Astrologer GURU, who uses KP aynamsa for timimg events.Personally, I would object, to researched views on basic statements, in KP or Vedic.Good to hear from you after a long time.--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Message 1849 of 6816 > > anant raichur <anant_1608 > Wed Dec 8, 2004 2:16 am > Re: Techniques: KP approved or not? > > Dear Sandy> > The Badhaka Sthanas, and Maraka Sthanas(2,7) are taken into > consideration in KP ONLY WHEN CONSIDERING THE END OF LIFE, and not > for any other event of Life.> > Good Luck> > Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:> Dear List Members,> > > Before I get myself in trouble again (J) by discussing Vedic > techniques that are NOT KP approved, I thought I'd ask a few > questions of the more seasoned KP practitioners on the list, to get > your opinions on just a few Vedic techniques and their applicability > (or not) to the system of KP. > > > I know the following techniques I am inquiring about may not be the > primary indicators/focus due to the KP strong emphasis on star and > sub-lords, but what I would like to know is if the following > techniques are completely off limits (like the Divisionals are) for > delineation KP style - and therefore have no place in this KP forum –> or if they are acceptable and given due consideration in KP > delineations? > > > Badhakas (troublemakers) and Badhaka Sthanas (trouble spots?) > Chara Karakas (temporary karakas based on priority of highest > planetary degree), and if these are given KP consideration, is Rahu > included in the Chara Karaka scheme (8 planets used), or just the > use of the 7 planet Chara Karakas scheme? What about Sthira Karakas > (fixed significators to assist in timing the death of relatives?) > What about planets falling in Marana Karaka Sthana (indicators that > houses owned by certain planets falling in certain placements will > suffer – like 12th for Sun, 8th for Moon, etc? If this is not a KP > approved technique, has any research been done to date(that anyone > is aware of) to discredit or address when the sub for a planetary > significator falls in Marana Karaka Sthana ?> > > I can think of more techniques, but I'll stop my questions at these. > I'm just trying to discern "what's what"…J because I was blown away > at the non-usage of vargas, so this is a start.> Important to me: I would also like to know if one or two of the > above techniques are acceptable in KP, and a third is not, (or vice-> versa), is it because research has been done indicating that the > technique has already been researched and has no value in KP, or is > it because no one has previously mentioned the technique in their > writings OR done any research on its applicability – therefore it is > not (yet) considered a viable possibility in KP delineation – so it > may or may not be applicable? Just curious…Thanks.> > All the Best,> > Sandy Crowther> > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > > > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote:> >> > Dear Anurodh Kumar,> > In my humble opinion,and as you are > very well aware,a badhaka is a "a planet which wroughts harm on the > native of the chart... ", for logevity or death,the VIIIth is also > considered along with the badhaka...> > The badhaka is used in many > contexts,particularly those which can inflict severe harm...to the > native's interests,in busines,at work, or in any sphere...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote:> > Dear List,> > > > I would like to know the opinion of the members on the role of > badhaka planet.> > > > So far all of us use badhaka planet when we deal with longivity > or health issue.> > > > In reader 3 [ advance stellar predictive astrology], badhaka > concept has been used to demonstrate the break in business > partnership. The timing of the break in partnership has been done > including badhaka planet as per the sign in the 7-H.> > > > But, this concept has not been demonstrated anywhere else in KP > readers [ as per my knowledge].> > > > What is the opinion on this issue? should we use badhaka planet > when dealing with job change, financial loss etc or other issues > where negative has to be assessed?> > > > Hope to get responce,> > > > regards,> > Anurodh.> > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Navamsa is Division of the Sign into 9 equal parts of 3 deg 20 min. This corresponds to the sign of the Star Lord. Dr KAR in his enthusiastic descrition of SUB SUB, has compared it to the Navmasa. Traditionally the Rasi Chart, and the Navmasa Charts are the two charts studied by most traditional astrologers. So it is a common priactice to present the two charts, to the client, who may not comprehend the KP Cuspal Chart. Traditional astrologers say that you predict about your spouse from the Navmasa. PROF KSK has nowhere, if my memory is correct, used or described the Navamasa Chart. It looks like the publishers/ writers trying to insert something in the Name of the Late Guruji, as they have no real research to publish. I apologise if I am wrong in getting this impression. I would not waste my time and energy on such matters, but stick to KP and try to get a really reliable method of predicting the time of the event Sorry, and apologies, if it hurts anyone. tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All,Could someone shed light on the role of Navamsa on the basis of the followings.a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the Rasi & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so long explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in astrological books);b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page 217)c/ Research on Navamsa of Navamsa (N.N.) Chart, a new find by KP Kar, K. P. & Astrology Year Book (i) 1996, page 68-69, (ii) 1997 page 81-82; by Dr. J.R.K. Rao, K. P. & Astrology Year Book, page 33-35?Thanks and regards,tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Is there any edition of KP Readers without the following quotations? a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the Rasi & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so long explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in astrological books); b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page 217) If there is not any pudding of proof, whenever there is a controversial issue, just saying the publishers/ writers trying to insert something in the Name of the Late Guruji is making the KP Readers unreliable as Guruji KSK's writing. How can Guruji or Guruji's sons allow someone else and do their own to add something to Guruji's original making the KP Readers unreliable as Guruji KSK's writing? Very sorry, and apologies, if it hurts anyone. , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > > Navamsa is Division of the Sign into 9 equal parts of 3 deg 20 min. This corresponds to the sign of the Star Lord. Dr KAR in his enthusiastic descrition of SUB SUB, has compared it to the Navmasa. > > Traditionally the Rasi Chart, and the Navmasa Charts are the two charts studied by most traditional astrologers. So it is a common priactice to present the two > charts, to the client, who may not comprehend the KP Cuspal Chart. > > Traditional astrologers say that you predict about your spouse from the Navmasa. > > PROF KSK has nowhere, if my memory is correct, used or described the > > Navamasa Chart. > > It looks like the publishers/ writers trying to insert something in the Name of the > > Late Guruji, as they have no real research to publish. I apologise if I am wrong in getting this impression. > I would not waste my time and energy on such matters, but stick to KP and > try to get a really reliable method of predicting the time of the event > > Sorry, and apologies, if it hurts anyone. > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: Dear All, > > Could someone shed light on the role of Navamsa on the basis of the > followings. > > a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the Rasi > & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so long > explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in > astrological books); > > b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP > Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page 217) > > c/ Research on Navamsa of Navamsa (N.N.) Chart, a new find by KP > Kar, K. P. & Astrology Year Book (i) 1996, page 68-69, (ii) 1997 > page 81-82; by Dr. J.R.K. Rao, K. P. & Astrology Year Book, page 33-35? > > > Thanks and regards, > > tw > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 I would agree with you. As far as I remember/know/seen I have seen no reference to Navamsa. I would leave it at that and wont waste my time any further. Seshadritw853 <tw853 wrote: Is there any edition of KP Readers without the following quotations?a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the Rasi & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so long explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in astrological books);b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page 217)If there is not any pudding of proof, whenever there is a controversial issue, just sayingthe publishers/ writers trying to insert something in the Name of the Late Guruji is making the KP Readers unreliable as Guruji KSK's writing.How can Guruji or Guruji's sons allow someone else and do their own to add something to Guruji's original making the KP Readers unreliable as Guruji KSK's writing?Very sorry, and apologies, if it hurts anyone. , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:>> Navamsa is Division of the Sign into 9 equal parts of 3 deg 20 min. This corresponds to the sign of the Star Lord. Dr KAR in his enthusiastic descrition of SUB SUB, has compared it to the Navmasa.> > Traditionally the Rasi Chart, and the Navmasa Charts are the two charts studied by most traditional astrologers. So it is a common priactice to present the two > charts, to the client, who may not comprehend the KP Cuspal Chart.> > Traditional astrologers say that you predict about your spouse from the Navmasa.> > PROF KSK has nowhere, if my memory is correct, used or described the > > Navamasa Chart. > > It looks like the publishers/ writers trying to insert something in the Name of the > > Late Guruji, as they have no real research to publish. I apologise if I am wrong in getting this impression.> I would not waste my time and energy on such matters, but stick to KP and > try to get a really reliable method of predicting the time of the event> > Sorry, and apologies, if it hurts anyone.> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: Dear All,> > Could someone shed light on the role of Navamsa on the basis of the > followings.> > a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the Rasi > & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so long > explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in > astrological books);> > b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP > Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page 217)> > c/ Research on Navamsa of Navamsa (N.N.) Chart, a new find by KP > Kar, K. P. & Astrology Year Book (i) 1996, page 68-69, (ii) 1997 > page 81-82; by Dr. J.R.K. Rao, K. P. & Astrology Year Book, page 33-35?> > > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Dear tw, I have referred you,in the past, to an interesting article by the late Pt.K.R.Kar,where-in he has equated Navamsa of Navamsa(NN) to the sub-sub...Ref: K.P. & Astrology,Annual,1995,Pp101-102. The sub of K.P.,the equivalent of Navamsa of Traditional Astrology,is however, more accurate,as per Krishnamurthiji himself,,however... as it follows the proportional division as per the years allotted in the Vimshottari Dasa,the navansa was later discarded,by Krishnamurthiji himself later,and this was followed by his sons and disciples... K.P., my dear tw, is evolving still...and many new discoveries are now being used by K.P. Stalwarts in the pursuit of Excellence in unprecedented predictive accuracy,being achieved by these scholars...like K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,Prof Balachandran,Pt.Vaikari Ramamurty,Mr.Kuppu Ganapati,A.R.Balan et al, With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! tw853 <tw853 wrote: Is there any edition of KP Readers without the following quotations?a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the Rasi & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so long explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in astrological books);b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page 217)If there is not any pudding of proof, whenever there is a controversial issue, just sayingthe publishers/ writers trying to insert something in the Name of the Late Guruji is making the KP Readers unreliable as Guruji KSK's writing.How can Guruji or Guruji's sons allow someone else and do their own to add something to Guruji's original making the KP Readers unreliable as Guruji KSK's writing?Very sorry, and apologies, if it hurts anyone. , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:>> Navamsa is Division of the Sign into 9 equal parts of 3 deg 20 min. This corresponds to the sign of the Star Lord. Dr KAR in his enthusiastic descrition of SUB SUB, has compared it to the Navmasa.> > Traditionally the Rasi Chart, and the Navmasa Charts are the two charts studied by most traditional astrologers. So it is a common priactice to present the two > charts, to the client, who may not comprehend the KP Cuspal Chart.> > Traditional astrologers say that you predict about your spouse from the Navmasa.> > PROF KSK has nowhere, if my memory is correct, used or described the > > Navamasa Chart. > > It looks like the publishers/ writers trying to insert something in the Name of the > > Late Guruji, as they have no real research to publish. I apologise if I am wrong in getting this impression.> I would not waste my time and energy on such matters, but stick to KP and > try to get a really reliable method of predicting the time of the event> > Sorry, and apologies, if it hurts anyone.> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: Dear All,> > Could someone shed light on the role of Navamsa on the basis of the > followings.> > a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the Rasi > & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so long > explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in > astrological books);> > b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP > Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page 217)> > c/ Research on Navamsa of Navamsa (N.N.) Chart, a new find by KP > Kar, K. P. & Astrology Year Book (i) 1996, page 68-69, (ii) 1997 > page 81-82; by Dr. J.R.K. Rao, K. P. & Astrology Year Book, page 33-35?> > > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2005 Report Share Posted November 27, 2005 Dear L.Y.Rao, In contrary to --- " the navansa was later discarded,by Krishnamurthiji himself later,and this was followed by his sons and disciples... " --- which has no reference at all in KP literature --- a/ the interpretation of Guruji KSK's Navamsa from KP Reader III can be found in elder son Subramanium's Astrosecrets & Krishnamurti Padhati, Part II, 2003 Edition, page 255-257 (also in younger son Hariharan's Notable Persons & Krishnamurti Padhdhati, 1993 Edition, page 18-20) ie. The 9th cusp is in the Navamsa sign Gemini (a human sign)--- Mercury the 9 th lord is in the Navamsa sign Sagittarius, in the human portion of the sign,--- the sign of the Perfected Man--- The ascendant cusp is in --- the Navamsa sign Aries--- shows energy and enterprise---- and a pioneering spirit ---etc.; b/ in you reference of --- " interesting article by the late Pt.K.R.Kar,where-in he has equated Navamsa of Navamsa(NN) to the sub-sub...Ref: K.P. & Astrology, Annual, 1995,Pp101-102. " --- Dr. Kar says, " To verify the reality of sub sub, we can take the help of Navamsa. Navamsa can be utilized in KP too. " c/ Dr. Kar's Navamsa of Navamsa (NN) chart approach in not only KP Annual 1995 page 101-102 but also in KP Annuals of 1996 page 68-69, 1997 page 81-82 and 2000 page 35-36 is not discarding Navamsa but an attempt to equate the sub sub of with that of NN chart in line with KP principle (Ref: KP Annual 1995 page 101). d/ For accurate timing of a prediction Jagdish Maheshri, Ph.D. applies ninefold natal chart and ninefold progressive chart as explained in his book " It's All in Timing " 1997 with ref of six KP Readers, application of old KP ayanamsa, and in fact, ninefold chart is a little modified Navamsa chart. Regarding " The sub of K.P.,the equivalent of Navamsa of Traditional Astrology,is however, more accurate,as per Krishnamurthiji himself,,however... as it follows the proportional division as per the years allotted in the Vimshottari Dasa " --- how can be said that the sub of KP is more accurate by mere following the unequal proportion of the Vimshottari Dasa without knowing the rationale of its planet sequence and periods other than Dr. Kar's attempt in KP Annual 2004, page 63-70? Guruji didn't say so. Dr. Kar doesn't use the unequal proportion of the Vimshottari Dasa in drawing NN chart. As regards to--- " K.P., my dear tw, is evolving still...and many new discoveries are now being used by K.P. Stalwarts in the pursuit of Excellence in unprecedented predictive accuracy,being achieved by these scholars...like K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,Prof Balachandran,Pt.Vaikari Ramamurty,Mr.Kuppu Ganapati,A.R.Balan et al, " such kind of usually general mentioning of just KP scholars' names without a specific list of the practically applicable well tested new discoveries other than Dr. Kar's sub sub theory which is not applicable even at your KP level and a particular list of well known prediction hits isn't creditible. All the best! tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > Dear tw, > I have referred you,in the past, to an interesting article by the late Pt.K.R.Kar,where-in he has equated Navamsa of Navamsa(NN) to the sub-sub...Ref: K.P. & Astrology,Annual,1995,Pp101- 102. > The sub of K.P.,the equivalent of Navamsa of Traditional Astrology,is however, more accurate,as per Krishnamurthiji himself,,however... as it follows the proportional division as per the years allotted in the Vimshottari Dasa,the navansa was later discarded,by Krishnamurthiji himself later,and this was followed by his sons and disciples... > K.P., my dear tw, is evolving still...and many new discoveries are now being used by K.P. Stalwarts in the pursuit of Excellence in unprecedented predictive accuracy,being achieved by these scholars...like K.Subramaniam,K.Hariharan,Prof Balachandran,Pt.Vaikari Ramamurty,Mr.Kuppu Ganapati,A.R.Balan et al, > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > GOOD LUCK ! > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > Is there any edition of KP Readers without the following quotations? > > a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the > Rasi > & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so > long > explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in > astrological books); > > b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP > Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page 217) > > If there is not any pudding of proof, whenever there is a > controversial issue, just saying > the publishers/ writers trying to insert something in the Name of > the Late Guruji is making the KP Readers unreliable as Guruji KSK's > writing. > > How can Guruji or Guruji's sons allow someone else and do their own > to add something to Guruji's original making the KP Readers > unreliable as Guruji KSK's writing? > > Very sorry, and apologies, if it hurts anyone. > > > > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > wrote: > > > > Navamsa is Division of the Sign into 9 equal parts of 3 deg 20 > min. This corresponds to the sign of the Star Lord. Dr KAR in his > enthusiastic descrition of SUB SUB, has compared it to the Navmasa. > > > > Traditionally the Rasi Chart, and the Navmasa Charts are the two > charts studied by most traditional astrologers. So it is a common > priactice to present the two > > charts, to the client, who may not comprehend the KP Cuspal > Chart. > > > > Traditional astrologers say that you predict about your spouse > from the Navmasa. > > > > PROF KSK has nowhere, if my memory is correct, used or described > the > > > > Navamasa Chart. > > > > It looks like the publishers/ writers trying to insert something > in the Name of the > > > > Late Guruji, as they have no real research to publish. I > apologise if I am wrong in getting this impression. > > I would not waste my time and energy on such matters, but stick > to KP and > > try to get a really reliable method of predicting the time of > the event > > > > Sorry, and apologies, if it hurts anyone. > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: Dear All, > > > > Could someone shed light on the role of Navamsa on the basis of > the > > followings. > > > > a/ Four-page-detailed Tables for Navamsa Chart to erect both the > Rasi > > & Navamsa Chart, KP Reader I, 1982 Edition page page 78-80 and so > long > > explanation in page 74-77 (usually half page Navamsa table in > > astrological books); > > > > b/ Guruji KSK's Rasi and Navamsa Charts shown side by side in KP > > Reader III, 2004 Edition page 387 (1984 Edition, Part 2, page > 217) > > > > c/ Research on Navamsa of Navamsa (N.N.) Chart, a new find by KP > > Kar, K. P. & Astrology Year Book (i) 1996, page 68-69, (ii) > 1997 > > page 81-82; by Dr. J.R.K. Rao, K. P. & Astrology Year Book, page > 33-35? > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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