Remedial Measures , Karma and KP- Astrology

October 24, 2005

Dear List,

I am floting a string on which I welcome the frank opinions, experince of the fellow members of the list.

Kp astrology confirms that everything is absolute and fix since the time of birth. Therefore in the Kp books it is written that one must predict with confirmity and the astrology is the science which can predict with certainity and KP proves it.

There is an advocation of Karma theory. It is said that the present life sorrows and joys are the result of past life karmas. We are free to do the action always, that is confimed by this theory i.e. Karma theory and the result is not in over hand , that will be controlled by our past Karmas.

As Kp says that results are fix since birth then how does it support that doing karma is must to attain any thing in life. We are free to do karma [ as Geeta says] then how the astrology is able to predict that will the person will be industrious or not, honest or not, benevolent or cuel.

The plenatary configuration tells about the charecter of the person he has and when we see natal chart , first we see the lagna and lord, sun and moon position and also analyse the 5th house [mental makeup] and 10 house [house of karama] + saturn [ karma karaka]. Now when by configuration we can analysie that in the present birth what sort of person he/she will be and that is decided at the time of birth , then how she /he can do independent karma to change the way they have come.......

If they change then the natal configuration will prove false [ if we apply the Karma theory as they are free to do karma]

Same is with the remedial measure.

Remedial measures are the part of astrological counselling and practice. It may be in the form of stones, yantras, prayers, mantras, charities etc.

When things are ought to happen then what is the use of remedial measures. Maharishi Prashara has advocated the use of remedial measures. Even Mr. KSK has also asked to worship the idol of Lord Ganesha made up of different metals for the specific purpose.

It is said that the very purpose of astrology fails if the remedies can not be prescribed ...

So where do remedial measure stand in KP ?

So dear friends I just wish to know that what do you feel on this issue?

Hope to get a responce,

regards,

Anurodh

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October 24, 2005

Dear Anurodh Kumar

This is more a philosophical question, than merely one of Astrology.

There is a school of thought, that everything we do,our karma, is predetermined

by

our past Karmas. Astrology just tells you what is the result of such past

karmas.

There is another school of thought, that it is our environment, that is

determined by

our previuos karma, and

--- Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote:

>

> Dear List,

>

> I am floting a string on which I welcome the frank opinions, experince of the

fellow

> members of the list.

>

> Kp astrology confirms that everything is absolute and fix since the time of

birth.

> Therefore in the Kp books it is written that one must predict with confirmity

and the

> astrology is the science which can predict with certainity and KP proves it.

>

> There is an advocation of Karma theory. It is said that the present life

sorrows and

> joys are the result of past life karmas. We are free to do the action always,

that is

> confimed by this theory i.e. Karma theory and the result is not in over hand ,

that

> will be controlled by our past Karmas.

>

> As Kp says that results are fix since birth then how does it support that

doing karma

> is must to attain any thing in life. We are free to do karma [ as Geeta says]

then how

> the astrology is able to predict that will the person will be industrious or

not,

> honest or not, benevolent or cuel.

>

> The plenatary configuration tells about the charecter of the person he has and

when we

> see natal chart , first we see the lagna and lord, sun and moon position and

also

> analyse the 5th house [mental makeup] and 10 house [house of karama] + saturn

[ karma

> karaka]. Now when by configuration we can analysie that in the present birth

what sort

> of person he/she will be and that is decided at the time of birth , then how

she /he

> can do independent karma to change the way they have come.......

>

> If they change then the natal configuration will prove false [ if we apply the

Karma

> theory as they are free to do karma]

>

> Same is with the remedial measure.

>

> Remedial measures are the part of astrological counselling and practice. It

may be in

> the form of stones, yantras, prayers, mantras, charities etc.

>

> When things are ought to happen then what is the use of remedial measures.

Maharishi

> Prashara has advocated the use of remedial measures. Even Mr. KSK has also

asked to

> worship the idol of Lord Ganesha made up of different metals for the specific

purpose.

>

> It is said that the very purpose of astrology fails if the remedies can not be

> prescribed ...

>

> So where do remedial measure stand in KP ?

>

> So dear friends I just wish to know that what do you feel on this issue?

>

> Hope to get a responce,

>

> regards,

>

> Anurodh

>

> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

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October 24, 2005

Dear Anurodh Kumar

Sorry my reply was cut short( some computer fault). So as I was saying, the

school

of thoght is that Our past Karmas determine our environments, and we have the

limited

freedom to Act, within this environment. Astrology guides us in knowing our

environment,

our capacity to act, and the way we can act. We have the choice to go along

these

guidelines, or oppose them and suffer the results. IF EVERYTHING IS

PREDETERMINED BY

OUR PREVIUOS ACTIONS, THEN THERE IS NO SENSE IN LIVING, OR TRYING TO IMPROVE.

If this view is accepted, then the remedial measures, are just a hoax, since the

results of our Karma cannot be changed,as per the the theorey of Everything is

Predetermined.

Because Prof KSK says so, we need not accept it in TOTO. Nor should our view

prevent us from studying the Methods propounded by KSK, to predict what can

happen

based on our birth chart.

good Luck

--- Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote:

>

> Dear List,

>

> I am floting a string on which I welcome the frank opinions, experince of the

fellow

> members of the list.

>

> Kp astrology confirms that everything is absolute and fix since the time of

birth.

> Therefore in the Kp books it is written that one must predict with confirmity

and the

> astrology is the science which can predict with certainity and KP proves it.

>

> There is an advocation of Karma theory. It is said that the present life

sorrows and

> joys are the result of past life karmas. We are free to do the action always,

that is

> confimed by this theory i.e. Karma theory and the result is not in over hand ,

that

> will be controlled by our past Karmas.

>

> As Kp says that results are fix since birth then how does it support that

doing karma

> is must to attain any thing in life. We are free to do karma [ as Geeta says]

then how

> the astrology is able to predict that will the person will be industrious or

not,

> honest or not, benevolent or cuel.

>

> The plenatary configuration tells about the charecter of the person he has and

when we

> see natal chart , first we see the lagna and lord, sun and moon position and

also

> analyse the 5th house [mental makeup] and 10 house [house of karama] + saturn

[ karma

> karaka]. Now when by configuration we can analysie that in the present birth

what sort

> of person he/she will be and that is decided at the time of birth , then how

she /he

> can do independent karma to change the way they have come.......

>

> If they change then the natal configuration will prove false [ if we apply the

Karma

> theory as they are free to do karma]

>

> Same is with the remedial measure.

>

> Remedial measures are the part of astrological counselling and practice. It

may be in

> the form of stones, yantras, prayers, mantras, charities etc.

>

> When things are ought to happen then what is the use of remedial measures.

Maharishi

> Prashara has advocated the use of remedial measures. Even Mr. KSK has also

asked to

> worship the idol of Lord Ganesha made up of different metals for the specific

purpose.

>

> It is said that the very purpose of astrology fails if the remedies can not be

> prescribed ...

>

> So where do remedial measure stand in KP ?

>

> So dear friends I just wish to know that what do you feel on this issue?

>

> Hope to get a responce,

>

> regards,

>

> Anurodh

>

> FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

---------

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anant_1608

raichuranant

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October 24, 2005

Dear Anurodh,

Vedanta says in the present life you can change your destiny by

changing your Vasanas,going from lower level to higher level the

highest being one with God.Every moment your are doing some karma or

another,adding or subracting to your bank deposit of Good Karmas.You

hava choice every moment either to do this or do that.

All this means there is scope for improvement in spiritual life.

Question comes where does astrology fit into this Karma theory.

Astrology is at best indicative science,it only points a direction

to follow to achieve an objective or set of objectives.Unless a set

of actions are undertaken the event you planned will not take place.

For example,astrology under a set or rules,tells you are likely to

go abroad for higher studies.Just merely sitting at home will not

make things happen automatically.You have to plan every step,what

you are going to do to ,eg locate the subjects you want to

study,which country offers best courses,how many colleges offer

these course etc etc.Unless each item of the plan is gone thru

systematically,you will not go abroad.This is Karma,if your steps

are improper you will fail.You may still fail due environment,making

you guess what went wrong.

There is no astrologer on Earth, who can say THIS event this will

happen positively ,in my life .I have met many famous astrologers

who boasted they would cut their ears and give it to me if their

predictions went wrong.If they kept this promise ,by now I would

have a box full of ears.This is not to say there are not

good ,honest and sincere,god fearing and spiritually minded

astrologers.

Even with the depth of knowledge some of the stalwarts have,the

issue of predicting birth time and sex is not 100 %.

If we could do so,we would be Gods, and would not waste time to

write this message.We would be the most " wanted " people on earth.

Lastly then are we wasting our time,perhaps yes perhaps no.It

depends what you are seeking.It is human curiosity,which made Men go

to the moon,a challenge.By knowing what is on Moon we are trying to

find a relation between the composition of metals etc on Moon vis a

vis Earth.It is a challenge.In astrology it is human curiosity and

mental challenge to seek answers for events happened in the past and

likely to happen in the future.

Life would be a dull place with no challenges.Imagine if we did not

have internet and ,we would not be interacting with each

other,right now. Don't you agree?

More in my next.

Regards,

Satish

, anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

>

> Dear Anurodh Kumar

>

> This is more a philosophical question, than merely one of

Astrology.

>

> There is a school of thought, that everything we do,our karma, is

predetermined by

>

> our past Karmas. Astrology just tells you what is the result of

such past karmas.

>

> There is another school of thought, that it is our environment,

that is determined by

>

> our previuos karma, and

>

> --- Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear List,

> >

> > I am floting a string on which I welcome the frank opinions,

experince of the fellow

> > members of the list.

> >

> > Kp astrology confirms that everything is absolute and fix since

the time of birth.

> > Therefore in the Kp books it is written that one must predict

with confirmity and the

> > astrology is the science which can predict with certainity and

KP proves it.

> >

> > There is an advocation of Karma theory. It is said that the

present life sorrows and

> > joys are the result of past life karmas. We are free to do the

action always, that is

> > confimed by this theory i.e. Karma theory and the result is not

in over hand , that

> > will be controlled by our past Karmas.

> >

> > As Kp says that results are fix since birth then how does it

support that doing karma

> > is must to attain any thing in life. We are free to do karma [

as Geeta says] then how

> > the astrology is able to predict that will the person will be

industrious or not,

> > honest or not, benevolent or cuel.

> >

> > The plenatary configuration tells about the charecter of the

person he has and when we

> > see natal chart , first we see the lagna and lord, sun and moon

position and also

> > analyse the 5th house [mental makeup] and 10 house [house of

karama] + saturn [ karma

> > karaka]. Now when by configuration we can analysie that in the

present birth what sort

> > of person he/she will be and that is decided at the time of

birth , then how she /he

> > can do independent karma to change the way they have come.......

> >

> > If they change then the natal configuration will prove false [

if we apply the Karma

> > theory as they are free to do karma]

> >

> > Same is with the remedial measure.

> >

> > Remedial measures are the part of astrological counselling and

practice. It may be in

> > the form of stones, yantras, prayers, mantras, charities etc.

> >

> > When things are ought to happen then what is the use of

remedial measures. Maharishi

> > Prashara has advocated the use of remedial measures. Even Mr.

KSK has also asked to

> > worship the idol of Lord Ganesha made up of different metals for

the specific purpose.

> >

> > It is said that the very purpose of astrology fails if the

remedies can not be

> > prescribed ...

> >

> > So where do remedial measure stand in KP ?

> >

> > So dear friends I just wish to know that what do you feel on

this issue?

> >

> > Hope to get a responce,

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Anurodh

> >

> > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

>

> ---------

> A.R.Raichur bombay

> anant_1608

> raichuranant

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> tel: 022-2506 2609

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October 27, 2005

Dear sir ,

Its really a very sensitive matter that has been raised by you .you will agree with me that after the completion of second round of saturn,almost everyone develops a peculiar mental state...CALLED -VIRAKTI.

KSK HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB TO CORELATE THE THEORY OF KARMA WITH ASTROLOGY.The beauty of his theory is that its highly convincing .To support this ,he has referred maharshi raman too.

ksk says that everything in this universe is predestined.Planets' movements can tell the future events ,only free will is free from the effects of planets ...free will (imagination) is not under control of planets ...thats why one is ambitious to get money,good food,beautiful wife ,statusBUT gets only that which is he destined for.

The extract of the theory in today's language is that---- A vidio casette of the universe has been made which has the record of the SHRISHTI which has the minutest details of every thing and every one in this world....of PAST--PRESENT --AND FUTURE.

ASTROLOGY is a VIDEO CASETTE PLAYER which can give the details of a person's past present and future...and as every thing is recorded in video casette and cannot be changed ..so astrological calculations never fail.NOW THE QUSTION RAISED BY YOU IS ---IF EVERY THING IS PREDESTINED THEN WHAT ABOUT GRAH-SHANTI KARM???/ WILL IT NOT CHANGE THE EVENTS ????

The answer is --IF a person is destined to get releif by graha shanti ,then he will get it done (ksk says if jupiter and moon are in good relations in his horoscope then he will follow the grah shanti and will get result ,,,otherwise not )So the story will be--This person will go to the astrologer OR saint and will get advise of grah-shanti to mitigate the evil effects of planets and will get relief(if jupiter and moon are in good aspects)by doingthe shanti karm accordingly.

many times,it so happenes that grah shanti does not affect ...ksk explains that when sub sub sub lords are not favourable OR jupiter and moon are not in good aspects or there is no aspect then shanti karm will go in vain OR will not be performed.'

THERE ARE CERTAIN STARTLING PRINCIPLES WHICH ARE BEING USED FOR LAST HUNDREDS OF YEARS TO GET FINAL EMANCIPATION ..THEYARE MAINLY FROM ANCIENT TIBETAN BUDHHISM .BUT THEY SUPPORT THE KSK THEORY THAT --EVERYTHING IS PREDESTINED.AND I THINK ITS PLEASENT TO REALISE THAT WE ARE OF THE SCHOOL OF ASTROLOGY WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY OTHER SCIENCES TOO.

SO SIR,THANX A LOT FOR SPARING TIME

THANX AGAIN AND REGARDS

PRABHAT KHARE

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07752 503187

anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

Dear Anurodh KumarSorry my reply was cut short( some computer fault). So as I was saying, the schoolof thoght is that Our past Karmas determine our environments, and we have the limited freedom to Act, within this environment. Astrology guides us in knowing our environment,our capacity to act, and the way we can act. We have the choice to go along theseguidelines, or oppose them and suffer the results. IF EVERYTHING IS PREDETERMINED BYOUR PREVIUOS ACTIONS, THEN THERE IS NO SENSE IN LIVING, OR TRYING TO IMPROVE.If this view is accepted, then the remedial measures, are just a hoax, since the results of our Karma cannot be changed,as per the the theorey of Everything isPredetermined.Because Prof KSK says so, we need not accept it in TOTO. Nor should our view prevent us from studying

the Methods propounded by KSK, to predict what can happenbased on our birth chart.good Luck--- Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote:> > Dear List,> > > > I am floting a string on which I welcome the frank opinions, experince of the fellow> members of the list.> > > > Kp astrology confirms that everything is absolute and fix since the time of birth.> Therefore in the Kp books it is written that one must predict with confirmity and the> astrology is the science which can predict with certainity and KP proves it.> > > > There is an advocation of Karma theory. It is said that the present life sorrows and> joys are the result of past life karmas. We are free to do the action always, that is> confimed by this theory i.e. Karma theory and the result is not in over hand , that> will be

controlled by our past Karmas.> > > > As Kp says that results are fix since birth then how does it support that doing karma> is must to attain any thing in life. We are free to do karma [ as Geeta says] then how> the astrology is able to predict that will the person will be industrious or not,> honest or not, benevolent or cuel.> > The plenatary configuration tells about the charecter of the person he has and when we> see natal chart , first we see the lagna and lord, sun and moon position and also> analyse the 5th house [mental makeup] and 10 house [house of karama] + saturn [ karma> karaka]. Now when by configuration we can analysie that in the present birth what sort> of person he/she will be and that is decided at the time of birth , then how she /he> can do independent karma to change the way they have come.......> > If they change then the natal configuration

will prove false [ if we apply the Karma> theory as they are free to do karma]> > > > Same is with the remedial measure.> > Remedial measures are the part of astrological counselling and practice. It may be in> the form of stones, yantras, prayers, mantras, charities etc.> > When things are ought to happen then what is the use of remedial measures. Maharishi> Prashara has advocated the use of remedial measures. Even Mr. KSK has also asked to> worship the idol of Lord Ganesha made up of different metals for the specific purpose. > > It is said that the very purpose of astrology fails if the remedies can not be> prescribed ...> > > > So where do remedial measure stand in KP ?> > > > So dear friends I just wish to know that what do you feel on this issue?> > > > Hope to

get a responce,> > > > regards,> > Anurodh> > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranantUSE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Start your day with - Make it your home page! http://www./r/hs

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October 28, 2005

Dear Prabhat,

Allow me to compliment you for your lucid and simple explanation/elaboration of KSK's thinking on Karma, and the role of K.P. in deciphering what Karma holds in store for one...

The explanation of the principle of who should perform "shantis" and when...etc., was very helpful,and revealing indeed...

With the very best wishes...

AND A HAPPY DIWALI !

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !prabhat khare <khare_astrologer wrote: