Opinion: KP Supporting Books

September 1, 2005

Hello Friends,

I would like to know the opinion of members of this forum on this topic. If anybody has used " Medical Astrology for All " , can s/he let us know his/ her experience? I personally found most of the KP supporting books (indeed few of them are excellent) are not well researched and adds confusion than the clarity. Sometimes in that situation, it is better to stick to KP readers. It would also great to know the general opinion about such books. It would also be great to have a review of few of best KP books.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On 9/1/05, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dears Raichur & Sesh,

I would like to once again,refer you both, to the excellent publication " Medical Astrology for All " authored by M/s K.Subramaniam,K.Balachandran & Vaikari Ramamurthy...

Where combinations for various diseases are very elaborately dealt with,along with some very illustrative examples...and deseases caused by the various planets appearing as the s/l of the VIth etc., are all discussed at fair length...

(A few years ago, I had astrologically diagnosed 'Cancer of the Uterus',using K.P,Horary Method., and refering to this book,and conveyed it to a client in the US,a few years ago...The person in question found it difficult to believe me,as none of the top consultants in the US,she was examined by, even hinted at such a probability,she and continued taking treatment for " pain in the lower abdomen, without any relief,finally she came to Mumbai on a private visit,and when she visited the Tata Memorial Cancer Hospital at Parel,it was confirmed... and she was commended for coming early enough before the Cancer could spread...I did not send this for publication in the

K.P. and Astrological Magazine ...as she did not permit it...)

Also, a perusal of this book will,I am very confident, answer all questions on K,.P. & Diseases of the various parts of the body...

and answer questions on diseases caused by Sat or Moon,separately and or in combination...etc...

Just mentioning that a combination of Sat and Moon gave rise to a certain disease is not correct and could be even misleading,particularly when learned people have worked on this subject, and Published a Book ...the entire chart and the VIth cusp needs to be studied very carefully...etc...

As I have already suggested several times,a query should give complete details a few scanty details cannot be enough to answer such queries...

It is suggested that all K.P. followers peruse this book so as to avoid such questions to be asked, and that too with scanty data...

I did not want to this experience of mine with members earlier, as my client had forbidden me to...

However,for the benefit of all,very briefly, the following stepwise method should be followed to diagnose a disease...

1) First examine the VIth cusp,sign,star,sub and confirm whether the s/l is connected to the lagna.

2) Whether the disease is fatal is told by the s/l of the VIIIth cusp...

3) Next, the nature of the disease is told by the significators of the VIth house and the s/l of the VIth house...

4) Finally if the s/l of the VIth is a strong significator of I V & XI only then is a cure issured...!

5) Reading this book is highly recommended...

With regards and best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

Dear Sesh

Are you sure that the kidney problem is due to SA MO connection only ? AND not due to

other factors ?. Sesh Krish <kseshadri_2000 wrote:

I have run into cases where Saturn Moon connection has resulted in kidney problem. May be the group should investigate this.

SeshadriYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dear Rangarajan,

You seem to be very keen to " redifine " many definitions, for the benefit of members...however,I urge you to ensure/take care to ensure, that the " true meaning " is not lost,in this endeavour...

Also,I appreciate your anxiety,in the light of the usage of the English language,as I have mentioned earlier,once before in this column. This is very commonly observed,among

most authors who " think in the vernacular,and write in English,translating their thoughts literally into English,when such mistakes creep in... "

I think if adequate allowance is given,while reading, these minor mistakes could be ironed out...Mr.Rangarajan,surely.

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga

wrote:

Dear Members,This is in continuation of my earlier post on this subject.Page 74 of 4th Reader (Edition 2002) says:

" Whenever Saturn has got any connection what-so-ever with Moon, there will be some obstacle or impediment, not only during negotiation but also at the time of fixation and even at the time of celebration of the marriage. This connection between Moon and Saturn causes delay, though ultimately both of them do much more good with a better partner. " Here we see a loose definition of Punarphoo.Page 78: " If Saturn is deposited in the constellation of Moon and sub of Saturn or if Moon is deposited in Saturn's star and Moon sub, if Saturn is deposited in 1, 3, 5, 7, and 10, then such difficulties may arise. " Here I don't understand why the " sub " part is taken into consideration.Page 79: " In your horoscope and the horoscope of the girl both Moon and Saturn are conjoined together... " .First I would like to enumerate the planetary configurations that might participate in Punarphoo. The actual definition can be attempted next.1) Saturn and Moon in the same house2) Saturn and Moon in the same sign3) Saturn in Moon sign4) Moon in Saturn sign

5) Saturn in Moon star6) Moon in Saturn star7) Saturn in Moon sub8) Moon in Saturn sub9) Saturn aspects Moon by Vedic aspect10) There is a conjunction or aspect as per the western systemPlease feel free to add to this list or modify the list.

The working definition of Punarphoo will involve some combinations of the above configurations. Just to illustrate, here is a possible definition (for convenience, I am only using item numbers from the

list):Punarphoo is said to exist in a chart when the following condition is satisfied:1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 9Another important point to consider is whether could be any other cause for delay in marriage and whether that should be included in the defintion of Punarphoo. For instance what if Saturn aspects the 7th cusp, but has no connection with Moon? See the last part of Page 78 definition.Given that there is lack of clarity in the meaning of Punarphoo, I think it is wise to arrive at a consensus on the term.I request interested members to give their views.Regards,Rangarajan

, " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " <ranga@m...> wrote:> Dear Members,> Since so much is being talked about Punarphoo, why don't we try to > arrive at a " working definition " of the term first? Let us collect and > enumerate the various definitions of the term as discussed in articles > and KP Readers and then agree upon a definition that we can use for > further study. Once this is done we can take sample horoscopes where > Punarphoo is present and check if there is/was any impact due to this > configuration. We have some members who have volunteered to give their > DOB for study, so we can use them. When we analyse 100 charts we will > have some pattern to discuss. > > I feel this study will help us in getting a more accurate picture of > Punarphoo than reading what others have said. I agree with Jagadish

> that the Readers and other books on KP are generally not well written. > > Regards,> Rangarajan

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September 1, 2005

Dear Punit,

My feeling is that " Medical Astrology for All " as well as other

books that carry specific author names are not really written by

those authors, but contain disconnected articles by various " real "

authors whose names are not published for some arbitrary reason. It

is not difficult to infer this when you carefully examine the

writing style. Hence I tend to question everything published on KP

since I feel these lack credibility.

I am certain my remark will hurt some people, but I think we should

have the courage to accept truth instead of blindly " hero-

worshipping " .

Regards,

Rangarajan

, Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:

> Hello Friends,

> I would like to know the opinion of members of this forum on this

topic. If

> anybody has used " Medical Astrology for All " , can s/he let us know

his/ her

> experience? I personally found most of the KP supporting books

(indeed few

> of them are excellent) are not well researched and adds confusion

than the

> clarity. Sometimes in that situation, it is better to stick to KP

readers.

> It would also great to know the general opinion about such books.

It would

> also be great to have a review of few of best KP books.

> Thanks & Regards,

> Punit Pandey

> On 9/1/05, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> >

> > *Dears Raichur & Sesh,*

> > * I would like to once again,refer you both, to the excellent

publication

> > " Medical Astrology for All " authored by M/s

K.Subramaniam,K.Balachandran &

> > Vaikari Ramamurthy...*

> > * Where combinations for various diseases are very elaborately

dealt

> > with,along with some very illustrative examples...and deseases

caused by the

> > various planets appearing as the s/l of the VIth etc., are all

discussed at

> > fair length...*

> > * (A few years ago, I had astrologically diagnosed 'Cancer of

the

> > Uterus',using K.P,Horary Method., and refering to this book,and

conveyed

> > it to a client in the US,a few years ago...The person in

question found it

> > difficult to believe me,as none of the top consultants in the

US,she was

> > examined by, even hinted at such a probability,she and continued

taking

> > treatment for " pain in the lower abdomen, without any

relief,finally she

> > came to Mumbai on a private visit,and when she visited the Tata

Memorial

> > Cancer Hospital at Parel,it was confirmed... and she was

commended for

> > coming early enough before the Cancer could spread...I did not

send this for

> > publication in the K.P. and Astrological Magazine ...as she did

not permit

> > it...)*

> > * * Also, a perusal of this book will,I am very confident,

answer all

> > questions on K,.P. & Diseases of the various parts of the body...

> > and answer questions on diseases caused by Sat or

Moon,separately and or

> > in combination...etc...

> > Just mentioning that a combination of Sat and Moon gave rise to

a certain

> > disease is not correct and could be even misleading,particularly

when *learned

> > people* have worked on this subject, and Published a Book ...the

entire

> > chart and the VIth cusp needs to be studied very

carefully...etc...

> > As I have already suggested several times,a query should give

*complete

> > details* a few scanty details cannot be enough to answer such

queries...

> > It is suggested that all K.P. followers *peruse* this book so

as to avoid

> > such questions to be asked, and that too with scanty data...

> > I did not want to this experience of mine with members earlier,

as my

> > client had forbidden me to...

> > However,for the benefit of all,very briefly, the following

stepwise

> > method should be followed to diagnose a disease...

> > 1) First examine the VIth cusp,sign,star,sub and confirm

whether the s/l

> > is connected to the lagna.

> > 2) Whether the disease is fatal is told by the s/l of the

VIIIth cusp...

> > 3) Next, the nature of the disease is told by the significators

of the

> > VIth house and the s/l of the VIth house...

> > 4) Finally if the s/l of the VIth is a strong significator of I

V & XI

> > only then is a cure issured...!

> > 5) Reading this book is highly recommended...

> > With regards and best wishes,

> > Yours sincerely,

> > L.Y.Rao.

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > *anant raichur <anant_1608>* wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sesh

> > Are you sure that the kidney problem is due to SA MO connection

only ? AND

> > not due to

> > other factors ?.

> >

> > *Sesh Krish <kseshadri_2000>* wrote:

> >

> > I have run into cases where Saturn Moon connection has resulted

in kidney

> > problem. May be the group should investigate this.

> > Seshadri

> >

> > *Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>* wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rangarajan,

> > You seem to be very keen to * " redifine " *many definitions, for

the

> > benefit of members...however,I urge you to ensure/take care to

ensure, that

> > the " true meaning " is not lost,in this endeavour...

> > Also,I appreciate your anxiety,in the light of the usage of the

English

> > language,as I have mentioned earlier,once before in this column.

This is

> > very commonly observed,among* **most *authors who * " think in the

> > vernacular,and write in English,translating their thoughts

literally into

> > English,when such mistakes creep in... " *

> > I think if adequate allowance is given,while reading, these

minor

> > mistakes could be ironed out...Mr.Rangarajan,surely.

> > With best wishes,

> > Yours sincerely,

> > L.Y.Rao.

> >

> > *Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...>* wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members,

> > This is in continuation of my earlier post on this subject.

> >

> > Page 74 of 4th Reader (Edition 2002) says:

> > " Whenever Saturn has got any connection what-so-ever with Moon,

> > there will be some obstacle or impediment, not only during

> > negotiation but also at the time of fixation and even at the

time of

> > celebration of the marriage. This connection between Moon and

Saturn

> > causes delay, though ultimately both of them do much more good

with

> > a better partner. "

> >

> > Here we see a loose definition of Punarphoo.

> >

> > Page 78:

> > " If Saturn is deposited in the constellation of Moon and sub of

> > Saturn or if Moon is deposited in Saturn's star and Moon sub, if

> > Saturn is deposited in 1, 3, 5, 7, and 10, then such

difficulties

> > may arise. "

> >

> > Here I don't understand why the " sub " part is taken into

> > consideration.

> >

> > Page 79:

> > " In your horoscope and the horoscope of the girl both Moon and

> > Saturn are conjoined together... " .

> >

> > First I would like to enumerate the planetary configurations

that

> > might participate in Punarphoo. The actual definition can be

> > attempted next.

> >

> > 1) Saturn and Moon in the same house

> > 2) Saturn and Moon in the same sign

> > 3) Saturn in Moon sign

> > 4) Moon in Saturn sign

> > 5) Saturn in Moon star

> > 6) Moon in Saturn star

> > 7) Saturn in Moon sub

> > 8) Moon in Saturn sub

> > 9) Saturn aspects Moon by Vedic aspect

> > 10) There is a conjunction or aspect as per the western system

> >

> > Please feel free to add to this list or modify the list.

> >

> > The working definition of Punarphoo will involve some

combinations

> > of the above configurations. Just to illustrate, here is a

possible

> > definition (for convenience, I am only using item numbers from

the

> > list):

> >

> > Punarphoo is said to exist in a chart when the following

condition

> > is satisfied:

> > 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 9

> >

> > Another important point to consider is whether could be any

other

> > cause for delay in marriage and whether that should be included

in

> > the defintion of Punarphoo. For instance what if Saturn aspects

the

> > 7th cusp, but has no connection with Moon? See the last part of

Page

> > 78 definition.

> >

> > Given that there is lack of clarity in the meaning of Punarphoo,

I

> > think it is wise to arrive at a consensus on the term.

> >

> > I request interested members to give their views.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rangarajan

> > , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

> > <ranga@m...> wrote:

> > > Dear Members,

> > > Since so much is being talked about Punarphoo, why don't we

try to

> > > arrive at a " working definition " of the term first? Let us

collect

> > and

> > > enumerate the various definitions of the term as discussed in

> > articles

> > > and KP Readers and then agree upon a definition that we can

use

> > for

> > > further study. Once this is done we can take sample horoscopes

> > where

> > > Punarphoo is present and check if there is/was any impact due

to

> > this

> > > configuration. We have some members who have volunteered to

give

> > their

> > > DOB for study, so we can use them. When we analyse 100 charts

we

> > will

> > > have some pattern to discuss.

> > >

> > > I feel this study will help us in getting a more accurate

picture

> > of

> > > Punarphoo than reading what others have said. I agree with

> > Jagadish

> > > that the Readers and other books on KP are generally not well

> > written.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Rangarajan

> >

> > ------------------------------

> > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.

> > Go to http://.shaadi.com

> >

> > ------------------------------

> > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>

> >

> > ---------

> > A.R.Raichur bombay

> > anant_1608

> > raichuranant

> > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY

> > tel: 022-2506 2609

> > ---------

> >

> > ------------------------------

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> > Go to http://.shaadi.com

> >

September 1, 2005

Hello,

Does anyone know the name of the book store(s) where I can get KP books in Hyderabad?

Please provide me the tel no# also.

Thanks

Bala

September 1, 2005

Dear Rangrajan,

most of books are not written by auther but from artical.But Chandrakan Bhatt's book are far better then other books.

I learn KP from Chandrakant Bhatt's Gujarati books( total 8 books in gujarati on KP ) in 1993. and in 2000 i read KSK's books.

he wrote on SAYAN KP books( without Aynamsha) and in dasa he include three outer Planet also.(uran,nept,plut)total dasa of 12 planet. with examples.but this book is in gujarati.

regards

kanak

"Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy" <ranga To: Subject: Re: Opinion: KP Supporting BooksThu, 01 Sep 2005 12:56:31 -0000Dear Punit,My feeling is that "Medical Astrology for All" as well as other books that carry specific author names are not really written by those authors, but contain disconnected articles by various "real" authors whose names are not published for some arbitrary reason. It is not difficult to infer this when you carefully examine the writing style. Hence I tend to question everything published on KP since I feel these lack credibility. I am certain my remark will hurt some people, but I think we should have the courage to accept truth instead of blindly "hero-worshipping".Regards,Rangarajan , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> Hello Friends,> I would like to know the opinion of members of this forum on this topic. If > anybody has used "Medical Astrology for All", can s/he let us know his/ her > experience? I personally found most of the KP supporting books (indeed few > of them are excellent) are not well researched and adds confusion than the > clarity. Sometimes in that situation, it is better to stick to KP readers. > It would also great to know the general opinion about such books. It would > also be great to have a review of few of best KP books. > Thanks & Regards,> Punit Pandey> On 9/1/05, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > > *Dears Raichur & Sesh,*> > * I would like to once again,refer you both, to the excellent publication > > "Medical Astrology for All" authored by M/s K.Subramaniam,K.Balachandran & > > Vaikari Ramamurthy...*> > * Where combinations for various diseases are very elaborately dealt > > with,along with some very illustrative examples...and deseases caused by the > > various planets appearing as the s/l of the VIth etc., are all discussed at > > fair length...*> > * (A few years ago, I had astrologically diagnosed 'Cancer of the > > Uterus',using K.P,Horary Method., and refering to this book,and conveyed > > it to a client in the US,a few years ago...The person in question found it > > difficult to believe me,as none of the top consultants in the US,she was > > examined by, even hinted at such a probability,she and continued taking > > treatment for "pain in the lower abdomen, without any relief,finally she > > came to Mumbai on a private visit,and when she visited the Tata Memorial > > Cancer Hospital at Parel,it was confirmed... and she was commended for > > coming early enough before the Cancer could spread...I did not send this for > > publication in the K.P. and Astrological Magazine ...as she did not permit > > it...)*> > * * Also, a perusal of this book will,I am very confident, answer all > > questions on K,.P. & Diseases of the various parts of the body...> > and answer questions on diseases caused by Sat or Moon,separately and or > > in combination...etc...> > Just mentioning that a combination of Sat and Moon gave rise to a certain > > disease is not correct and could be even misleading,particularly when *learned > > people* have worked on this subject, and Published a Book ...the entire > > chart and the VIth cusp needs to be studied very carefully...etc...> > As I have already suggested several times,a query should give *complete > > details* a few scanty details cannot be enough to answer such queries...> > It is suggested that all K.P. followers *peruse* this book so as to avoid > > such questions to be asked, and that too with scanty data...> > I did not want to this experience of mine with members earlier, as my > > client had forbidden me to...> > However,for the benefit of all,very briefly, the following stepwise > > method should be followed to diagnose a disease...> > 1) First examine the VIth cusp,sign,star,sub and confirm whether the s/l > > is connected to the lagna.> > 2) Whether the disease is fatal is told by the s/l of the VIIIth cusp...> > 3) Next, the nature of the disease is told by the significators of the > > VIth house and the s/l of the VIth house...> > 4) Finally if the s/l of the VIth is a strong significator of I V & XI > > only then is a cure issured...!> > 5) Reading this book is highly recommended...> > With regards and best wishes,> > Yours sincerely,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > *anant raichur <anant_1608>* wrote:> > > > Dear Sesh> > Are you sure that the kidney problem is due to SA MO connection only ? AND > > not due to> > other factors ?. > > > > *Sesh Krish <kseshadri_2000>* wrote:> > > > I have run into cases where Saturn Moon connection has resulted in kidney > > problem. May be the group should investigate this.> > Seshadri> > > > *Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>* wrote:> > > > Dear Rangarajan,> > You seem to be very keen to *"redifine" *many definitions, for the > > benefit of members...however,I urge you to ensure/take care to ensure, that > > the "true meaning" is not lost,in this endeavour... > > Also,I appreciate your anxiety,in the light of the usage of the English > > language,as I have mentioned earlier,once before in this column. This is > > very commonly observed,among* **most *authors who *"think in the > > vernacular,and write in English,translating their thoughts literally into > > English,when such mistakes creep in..."* > > I think if adequate allowance is given,while reading, these minor > > mistakes could be ironed out...Mr.Rangarajan,surely.> > With best wishes,> > Yours sincerely,> > L.Y.Rao.> > > > *Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...>* wrote:> > > > Dear Members,> > This is in continuation of my earlier post on this subject.> > > > Page 74 of 4th Reader (Edition 2002) says:> > "Whenever Saturn has got any connection what-so-ever with Moon, > > there will be some obstacle or impediment, not only during > > negotiation but also at the time of fixation and even at the time of > > celebration of the marriage. This connection between Moon and Saturn > > causes delay, though ultimately both of them do much more good with > > a better partner."> > > > Here we see a loose definition of Punarphoo.> > > > Page 78:> > "If Saturn is deposited in the constellation of Moon and sub of > > Saturn or if Moon is deposited in Saturn's star and Moon sub, if > > Saturn is deposited in 1, 3, 5, 7, and 10, then such difficulties > > may arise."> > > > Here I don't understand why the "sub" part is taken into > > consideration.> > > > Page 79:> > "In your horoscope and the horoscope of the girl both Moon and > > Saturn are conjoined together...".> > > > First I would like to enumerate the planetary configurations that > > might participate in Punarphoo. The actual definition can be > > attempted next.> > > > 1) Saturn and Moon in the same house> > 2) Saturn and Moon in the same sign> > 3) Saturn in Moon sign> > 4) Moon in Saturn sign> > 5) Saturn in Moon star> > 6) Moon in Saturn star> > 7) Saturn in Moon sub> > 8) Moon in Saturn sub> > 9) Saturn aspects Moon by Vedic aspect> > 10) There is a conjunction or aspect as per the western system> > > > Please feel free to add to this list or modify the list.> > > > The working definition of Punarphoo will involve some combinations > > of the above configurations. Just to illustrate, here is a possible > > definition (for convenience, I am only using item numbers from the > > list):> > > > Punarphoo is said to exist in a chart when the following condition > > is satisfied:> > 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 9> > > > Another important point to consider is whether could be any other > > cause for delay in marriage and whether that should be included in > > the defintion of Punarphoo. For instance what if Saturn aspects the > > 7th cusp, but has no connection with Moon? See the last part of Page > > 78 definition.> > > > Given that there is lack of clarity in the meaning of Punarphoo, I > > think it is wise to arrive at a consensus on the term.> > > > I request interested members to give their views.> > > > Regards,> > Rangarajan> > , "Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy" > > <ranga@m...> wrote:> > > Dear Members,> > > Since so much is being talked about Punarphoo, why don't we try to > > > arrive at a "working definition" of the term first? Let us collect > > and > > > enumerate the various definitions of the term as discussed in > > articles > > > and KP Readers and then agree upon a definition that we can use > > for > > > further study. Once this is done we can take sample horoscopes > > where > > > Punarphoo is present and check if there is/was any impact due to > > this > > > configuration. We have some members who have volunteered to give > > their > > > DOB for study, so we can use them. When we analyse 100 charts we > > will > > > have some pattern to discuss. > > > > > > I feel this study will help us in getting a more accurate picture > > of > > > Punarphoo than reading what others have said. I agree with > > Jagadish > > > that the Readers and other books on KP are generally not well > > written. > > > > > > Regards,> > > Rangarajan> > > > > > ------------------------------> > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.> > Go to http://.shaadi.com > > > > ------------------------------> > Start your day with - make it your home page > > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs> > > > > > > > > --------- > > A.R.Raichur bombay> > anant_1608 > > raichuranant> > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY> > tel: 022-2506 2609 > > ---------> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------> > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.> > Go to http://.shaadi.com > > > >

September 1, 2005

Ranjarajan ji,

There is no question of getting hurt. I asked for opinion and it is just an opinion. Everybody is free to form his own opinion. As there are so many books in the market on KP, it is a good idea to know opinion of KP astrologers about them. Also as I mentioned in the last mail, it would be good to have a list of good books on the subject e.g. Nakshatra Chitamani and Astrosecrets to name a few. It will help in picking up the right book and leaving the wrong ones.

I request all members to take it as opinion only

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On 9/1/05, Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote:

Dear Punit,My feeling is that " Medical Astrology for All " as well as otherbooks that carry specific author names are not really written by

those authors, but contain disconnected articles by various " real " authors whose names are not published for some arbitrary reason. Itis not difficult to infer this when you carefully examine thewriting style. Hence I tend to question everything published on KP

since I feel these lack credibility.I am certain my remark will hurt some people, but I think we shouldhave the courage to accept truth instead of blindly " hero-worshipping " .Regards,

Rangarajan , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> Hello Friends,> I would like to know the opinion of members of this forum on this

topic. If> anybody has used " Medical Astrology for All " , can s/he let us knowhis/ her> experience? I personally found most of the KP supporting books(indeed few> of them are excellent) are not well researched and adds confusion

than the> clarity. Sometimes in that situation, it is better to stick to KPreaders.> It would also great to know the general opinion about such books.It would> also be great to have a review of few of best KP books.

> Thanks & Regards,> Punit Pandey> On 9/1/05, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> >> > *Dears Raichur & Sesh,*> > * I would like to once again,refer you both, to the excellent

publication> > " Medical Astrology for All " authored by M/sK.Subramaniam,K.Balachandran & > > Vaikari Ramamurthy...*> > * Where combinations for various diseases are very elaborately

dealt> > with,along with some very illustrative examples...and deseasescaused by the> > various planets appearing as the s/l of the VIth etc., are alldiscussed at> > fair length...*

> > * (A few years ago, I had astrologically diagnosed 'Cancer ofthe> > Uterus',using K.P,Horary Method., and refering to this book,andconveyed> > it to a client in the US,a few years ago...The person in

question found it> > difficult to believe me,as none of the top consultants in theUS,she was> > examined by, even hinted at such a probability,she and continuedtaking> > treatment for " pain in the lower abdomen, without any

relief,finally she> > came to Mumbai on a private visit,and when she visited the TataMemorial> > Cancer Hospital at Parel,it was confirmed... and she wascommended for> > coming early enough before the Cancer could spread...I did not

send this for> > publication in the K.P. and Astrological Magazine ...as she didnot permit> > it...)*> > * * Also, a perusal of this book will,I am very confident,answer all> > questions on K,.P. & Diseases of the various parts of the body...

> > and answer questions on diseases caused by Sat orMoon,separately and or> > in combination...etc...> > Just mentioning that a combination of Sat and Moon gave rise toa certain

> > disease is not correct and could be even misleading,particularlywhen *learned> > people* have worked on this subject, and Published a Book ...theentire> > chart and the VIth cusp needs to be studied very

carefully...etc...> > As I have already suggested several times,a query should give*complete> > details* a few scanty details cannot be enough to answer suchqueries...> > It is suggested that all K.P. followers *peruse* this book soas to avoid> > such questions to be asked, and that too with scanty data...> > I did not want to this experience of mine with members earlier,as my> > client had forbidden me to...

> > However,for the benefit of all,very briefly, the followingstepwise> > method should be followed to diagnose a disease...> > 1) First examine the VIth cusp,sign,star,sub and confirm

whether the s/l> > is connected to the lagna.> > 2) Whether the disease is fatal is told by the s/l of theVIIIth cusp...> > 3) Next, the nature of the disease is told by the significators

of the> > VIth house and the s/l of the VIth house...> > 4) Finally if the s/l of the VIth is a strong significator of IV & XI> > only then is a cure issured...!> > 5) Reading this book is highly recommended...

> > With regards and best wishes,> > Yours sincerely,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> >> >> > *anant raichur <anant_1608>* wrote:> >

> > Dear Sesh> > Are you sure that the kidney problem is due to SA MO connectiononly ? AND> > not due to> > other factors ?.> >> > *Sesh Krish <kseshadri_2000@y

....>* wrote:> >> > I have run into cases where Saturn Moon connection has resultedin kidney> > problem. May be the group should investigate this.> > Seshadri> >

> > *Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>* wrote:> >> > Dear Rangarajan,> > You seem to be very keen to * " redifine " *many definitions, forthe> > benefit of members...however,I urge you to ensure/take care to

ensure, that> > the " true meaning " is not lost,in this endeavour...> > Also,I appreciate your anxiety,in the light of the usage of theEnglish> > language,as I have mentioned earlier,once before in this column.

This is> > very commonly observed,among* **most *authors who * " think in the> > vernacular,and write in English,translating their thoughtsliterally into> > English,when such mistakes creep in... " *

> > I think if adequate allowance is given,while reading, theseminor> > mistakes could be ironed out...Mr.Rangarajan,surely.> > With best wishes,> > Yours sincerely,> >

L.Y.Rao.> >> > *Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...>* wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> > This is in continuation of my earlier post on this subject.> >> > Page 74 of 4th Reader (Edition 2002) says:

> > " Whenever Saturn has got any connection what-so-ever with Moon,> > there will be some obstacle or impediment, not only during> > negotiation but also at the time of fixation and even at the

time of> > celebration of the marriage. This connection between Moon andSaturn> > causes delay, though ultimately both of them do much more goodwith> > a better partner. "

> >> > Here we see a loose definition of Punarphoo.> >> > Page 78:> > " If Saturn is deposited in the constellation of Moon and sub of> > Saturn or if Moon is deposited in Saturn's star and Moon sub, if

> > Saturn is deposited in 1, 3, 5, 7, and 10, then suchdifficulties> > may arise. " > >> > Here I don't understand why the " sub " part is taken into> > consideration.

> >> > Page 79:> > " In your horoscope and the horoscope of the girl both Moon and> > Saturn are conjoined together... " .> >> > First I would like to enumerate the planetary configurations

that> > might participate in Punarphoo. The actual definition can be> > attempted next.> >> > 1) Saturn and Moon in the same house> > 2) Saturn and Moon in the same sign

> > 3) Saturn in Moon sign> > 4) Moon in Saturn sign> > 5) Saturn in Moon star> > 6) Moon in Saturn star> > 7) Saturn in Moon sub> > 8) Moon in Saturn sub> > 9) Saturn aspects Moon by Vedic aspect

> > 10) There is a conjunction or aspect as per the western system> >> > Please feel free to add to this list or modify the list.> >> > The working definition of Punarphoo will involve some

combinations> > of the above configurations. Just to illustrate, here is apossible> > definition (for convenience, I am only using item numbers fromthe> > list):> >> > Punarphoo is said to exist in a chart when the following

condition> > is satisfied:> > 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 9> >> > Another important point to consider is whether could be anyother> > cause for delay in marriage and whether that should be included

in> > the defintion of Punarphoo. For instance what if Saturn aspectsthe> > 7th cusp, but has no connection with Moon? See the last part ofPage> > 78 definition.> >> > Given that there is lack of clarity in the meaning of Punarphoo,

I> > think it is wise to arrive at a consensus on the term.> >> > I request interested members to give their views.> >> > Regards,> > Rangarajan> > , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " > > <ranga@m...> wrote:> > > Dear Members,> > > Since so much is being talked about Punarphoo, why don't we

try to> > > arrive at a " working definition " of the term first? Let uscollect> > and> > > enumerate the various definitions of the term as discussed in> > articles

> > > and KP Readers and then agree upon a definition that we canuse> > for> > > further study. Once this is done we can take sample horoscopes> > where> > > Punarphoo is present and check if there is/was any impact due

to> > this> > > configuration. We have some members who have volunteered togive> > their> > > DOB for study, so we can use them. When we analyse 100 chartswe> > will

> > > have some pattern to discuss.> > >> > > I feel this study will help us in getting a more accuratepicture> > of> > > Punarphoo than reading what others have said. I agree with

> > Jagadish> > > that the Readers and other books on KP are generally not well> > written.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rangarajan> >> >

> > ------------------------------> > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.> > Go to http://.shaadi.com> >> > ------------------------------

> > Start your day with - make it your home page> > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs>

> >> >> >> > ---------> > A.R.Raichur bombay> > anant_1608> > raichuranant> > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY

> > tel: 022-2506 2609> > ---------> >> > > > > >

> > > >> > ------------------------------> > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.> > Go to

http://.shaadi.com> >> >

September 1, 2005

Rangarajan ji,

Extremely sorry for misspelling your name. Regards,

Punit Pandey

On 9/1/05, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Ranjarajan ji,

There is no question of getting hurt. I asked for opinion and it is just an opinion. Everybody is free to form his own opinion. As there are so many books in the market on KP, it is a good idea to know opinion of KP astrologers about them. Also as I mentioned in the last mail, it would be good to have a list of good books on the subject e.g. Nakshatra Chitamani and Astrosecrets to name a few. It will help in picking up the right book and leaving the wrong ones.

I request all members to take it as opinion only

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On 9/1/05, Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga

> wrote: Dear Punit,My feeling is that " Medical Astrology for All " as well as otherbooks that carry specific author names are not really written by those authors, but contain disconnected articles by various " real " authors whose names are not published for some arbitrary reason. Itis not difficult to infer this when you carefully examine thewriting style. Hence I tend to question everything published on KP since I feel these lack credibility.I am certain my remark will hurt some people, but I think we shouldhave the courage to accept truth instead of blindly " hero-worshipping " .Regards,

Rangarajan , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote:> Hello Friends,

> I would like to know the opinion of members of this forum on this topic. If> anybody has used " Medical Astrology for All " , can s/he let us knowhis/ her> experience? I personally found most of the KP supporting books

(indeed few> of them are excellent) are not well researched and adds confusion than the> clarity. Sometimes in that situation, it is better to stick to KPreaders.> It would also great to know the general opinion about such books.

It would> also be great to have a review of few of best KP books. > Thanks & Regards,> Punit Pandey> On 9/1/05, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> >> > *Dears Raichur & Sesh,*

> > * I would like to once again,refer you both, to the excellent publication> > " Medical Astrology for All " authored by M/sK.Subramaniam,K.Balachandran & > > Vaikari Ramamurthy...*

> > * Where combinations for various diseases are very elaborately dealt> > with,along with some very illustrative examples...and deseasescaused by the> > various planets appearing as the s/l of the VIth etc., are all

discussed at> > fair length...* > > * (A few years ago, I had astrologically diagnosed 'Cancer ofthe> > Uterus',using K.P,Horary Method., and refering to this book,andconveyed

> > it to a client in the US,a few years ago...The person in question found it> > difficult to believe me,as none of the top consultants in theUS,she was> > examined by, even hinted at such a probability,she and continued

taking> > treatment for " pain in the lower abdomen, without any relief,finally she> > came to Mumbai on a private visit,and when she visited the TataMemorial> > Cancer Hospital at Parel,it was confirmed... and she was

commended for> > coming early enough before the Cancer could spread...I did not send this for> > publication in the K.P. and Astrological Magazine ...as she didnot permit> > it...)*

> > * * Also, a perusal of this book will,I am very confident,answer all> > questions on K,.P. & Diseases of the various parts of the body... > > and answer questions on diseases caused by Sat or

Moon,separately and or> > in combination...etc...> > Just mentioning that a combination of Sat and Moon gave rise toa certain> > disease is not correct and could be even misleading,particularly

when *learned> > people* have worked on this subject, and Published a Book ...theentire> > chart and the VIth cusp needs to be studied very carefully...etc...> > As I have already suggested several times,a query should give

*complete> > details* a few scanty details cannot be enough to answer suchqueries...> > It is suggested that all K.P. followers *peruse* this book soas to avoid> > such questions to be asked, and that too with scanty data...

> > I did not want to this experience of mine with members earlier,as my> > client had forbidden me to... > > However,for the benefit of all,very briefly, the followingstepwise> > method should be followed to diagnose a disease...

> > 1) First examine the VIth cusp,sign,star,sub and confirmwhether the s/l> > is connected to the lagna.> > 2) Whether the disease is fatal is told by the s/l of theVIIIth cusp...

> > 3) Next, the nature of the disease is told by the significators of the> > VIth house and the s/l of the VIth house...> > 4) Finally if the s/l of the VIth is a strong significator of I

V & XI> > only then is a cure issured...!> > 5) Reading this book is highly recommended... > > With regards and best wishes,> > Yours sincerely,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !

> >> >> > *anant raichur <anant_1608>* wrote:> > > > Dear Sesh> > Are you sure that the kidney problem is due to SA MO connectiononly ? AND> > not due to

> > other factors ?.> >> > *Sesh Krish <kseshadri_2000@y ...>* wrote:> >> > I have run into cases where Saturn Moon connection has resultedin kidney> > problem. May be the group should investigate this.

> > Seshadri> >> > *Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>* wrote:> >> > Dear Rangarajan,> > You seem to be very keen to * " redifine " *many definitions, for

the> > benefit of members...however,I urge you to ensure/take care to ensure, that> > the " true meaning " is not lost,in this endeavour...> > Also,I appreciate your anxiety,in the light of the usage of the

English> > language,as I have mentioned earlier,once before in this column. This is> > very commonly observed,among* **most *authors who * " think in the> > vernacular,and write in English,translating their thoughts

literally into> > English,when such mistakes creep in... " * > > I think if adequate allowance is given,while reading, theseminor> > mistakes could be ironed out...Mr.Rangarajan,surely.

> > With best wishes,> > Yours sincerely,> > L.Y.Rao.> >> > *Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...>* wrote:> >> > Dear Members,> > This is in continuation of my earlier post on this subject.

> >> > Page 74 of 4th Reader (Edition 2002) says: > > " Whenever Saturn has got any connection what-so-ever with Moon,> > there will be some obstacle or impediment, not only during

> > negotiation but also at the time of fixation and even at the time of> > celebration of the marriage. This connection between Moon andSaturn> > causes delay, though ultimately both of them do much more good

with> > a better partner. " > >> > Here we see a loose definition of Punarphoo.> >> > Page 78:> > " If Saturn is deposited in the constellation of Moon and sub of

> > Saturn or if Moon is deposited in Saturn's star and Moon sub, if > > Saturn is deposited in 1, 3, 5, 7, and 10, then suchdifficulties> > may arise. " > >> > Here I don't understand why the " sub " part is taken into

> > consideration. > >> > Page 79:> > " In your horoscope and the horoscope of the girl both Moon and> > Saturn are conjoined together... " .> >> > First I would like to enumerate the planetary configurations that> > might participate in Punarphoo. The actual definition can be> > attempted next.> >> > 1) Saturn and Moon in the same house> > 2) Saturn and Moon in the same sign > > 3) Saturn in Moon sign> > 4) Moon in Saturn sign> > 5) Saturn in Moon star> > 6) Moon in Saturn star> > 7) Saturn in Moon sub> > 8) Moon in Saturn sub> > 9) Saturn aspects Moon by Vedic aspect > > 10) There is a conjunction or aspect as per the western system> >> > Please feel free to add to this list or modify the list.> >> > The working definition of Punarphoo will involve some combinations> > of the above configurations. Just to illustrate, here is apossible> > definition (for convenience, I am only using item numbers fromthe> > list):> >> > Punarphoo is said to exist in a chart when the following condition> > is satisfied:> > 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 9> >> > Another important point to consider is whether could be anyother> > cause for delay in marriage and whether that should be included in> > the defintion of Punarphoo. For instance what if Saturn aspectsthe> > 7th cusp, but has no connection with Moon? See the last part ofPage> > 78 definition.> >> > Given that there is lack of clarity in the meaning of Punarphoo, I> > think it is wise to arrive at a consensus on the term.> >> > I request interested members to give their views.> >> > Regards,> > Rangarajan> > , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " > > <ranga@m...> wrote:

> > > Dear Members,> > > Since so much is being talked about Punarphoo, why don't we try to> > > arrive at a " working definition " of the term first? Let uscollect

> > and> > > enumerate the various definitions of the term as discussed in> > articles > > > and KP Readers and then agree upon a definition that we canuse> > for

> > > further study. Once this is done we can take sample horoscopes> > where> > > Punarphoo is present and check if there is/was any impact due to> > this> > > configuration. We have some members who have volunteered to

give> > their> > > DOB for study, so we can use them. When we analyse 100 chartswe> > will > > > have some pattern to discuss.> > >> > > I feel this study will help us in getting a more accurate

picture> > of> > > Punarphoo than reading what others have said. I agree with > > Jagadish> > > that the Readers and other books on KP are generally not well> > written.

> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rangarajan> >> > > > ------------------------------> > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.> > Go to http://.shaadi.com> >> > ------------------------------ > > Start your day with - make it your home page

> > <http://us.rd./evt=34442/*http://www./r/hs

>> >> >> >> > ---------> > A.R.Raichur bombay> > anant_1608> > raichuranant> > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY > > tel: 022-2506 2609> > ---------> >> > > > > > > > > >> > ------------------------------> > India Matrimony: Find your partner online.

> > Go to http://.shaadi.com> >> >

September 1, 2005

Dear Mr.Punit Pandey,

Since you as the Presiding Officer of the Forum has raised the issue, with a strong conviction that the matter would end here itself, I would like to putforth my sincere and honest opinion.

In my opinion, if we refer to any of those books and make any comment whatsoever, we are sure to put the whole society into jeoparady and anyone doing that will be innocently committing an unpardonable sin. There are any number of combinations and if we try to apply the points to our own horoscope, we will find disastrous results. So is the case about one book on Profession too. Rarely, here and there sometimes we get a few words of relevance. I can swear that I have no intention to hurt anyone least of all get involved in any kind of discussion and waste each others time.

I will not be able to reply to anyone else and nor I would be interested in getting into any kind of controversy with any one.

In this context, I would like to mention that I will participate extremely selectively and I will not reply to some mails even if it is specifically addressed to me.

Kind regards,

K Jagadish

Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Hello Friends,

I would like to know the opinion of members of this forum on this topic. If anybody has used "Medical Astrology for All", can s/he let us know his/ her experience? I personally found most of the KP supporting books (indeed few of them are excellent) are not well researched and adds confusion than the clarity. Sometimes in that situation, it is better to stick to KP readers. It would also great to know the general opinion about such books. It would also be great to have a review of few of best KP books.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On 9/1/05, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dears Raichur & Sesh,

I would like to once again,refer you both, to the excellent publication "Medical Astrology for All" authored by M/s K.Subramaniam,K.Balachandran & Vaikari Ramamurthy...

Where combinations for various diseases are very elaborately dealt with,along with some very illustrative examples...and deseases caused by the various planets appearing as the s/l of the VIth etc., are all discussed at fair length...

(A few years ago, I had astrologically diagnosed 'Cancer of the Uterus',using K.P,Horary Method., and refering to this book,and conveyed it to a client in the US,a few years ago...The person in question found it difficult to believe me,as none of the top consultants in the US,she was examined by, even hinted at such a probability,she and continued taking treatment for "pain in the lower abdomen, without any relief,finally she came to Mumbai on a private visit,and when she visited the Tata Memorial Cancer Hospital at Parel,it was confirmed... and she was commended for coming early enough before the Cancer could spread...I did not send this for publication in the K.P. and Astrological Magazine ...as she did not permit

it...)